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BITCH SAY WHAT???
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NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY WHAT I THINK YOU SAID
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Fugazi is a hardcore band?
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Who are these people.

They look boring.

They're all white dudes so I guess they must be hardcore.
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I am open to the idea. It is just new to me, I guess.
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I think that when catalogued Fugazi are often put in the incredibly vague "post-hardcore" box.
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Look guys shut up and be outraged with me about the Pitchfork guy
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I think I might be more upset if a Pitchfork writer didn't make some sort of specious claim in a review. I wouldn't trust it.

Fucked Up is a pretty good band, though.
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Come on guys and get hardcore outraged

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I'm more puzzled by what an 'album band' is.  Is it a band that releases albums?  Isn't that all bands? 

Maybe it's not that they're the best hardcore band.  Maybe they're the best album band that are so album that they're hardcore album.
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Maybe they're albuming the best album band album that are so album that they're album hardcore album.

Wat.
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I'm more puzzled by what an 'album band' is.
Really? I thought it was obvious. Think of those bands that put out so-so records but if you took one or two songs from each one of their albums, you'd have one killer album (say, I don't know, Prince post-comeback). That's not an album band. An album band makes whole albums of good songs.
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guys i am about to be an asshole.

fugazi is not hardcore
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guys i am about to be an asshole.

fugazi is not hardcore

why not
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how can a band be the greatest hardcore album band in the last twenty years and yet in practice be more of a singles band

and if they are more of a singles band why is this collection of singles rated so low.  I don't get it, pitchfork
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They only really got good around the release of their first album, Hidden World. Which, imo is a fantastic record.
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how can a band be the greatest hardcore album band in the last twenty years and yet in practice be more of a singles band

and if they are more of a singles band why is this collection of singles rated so low.  I don't get it, pitchfork

Translation: "I don't listen to much/any hardcore"
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why not

dogg do the dudes sound like they are playing hardcore?

trust me fugazi is not hardcore its old guys who are into hardcore playing songs.
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I guess this disqualifies The Minutemen, who are legitimately 50x more hardcore than you and everybody you know will ever be, as well.
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the reviewer, or me?
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I'm more puzzled by what an 'album band' is.
Really? I thought it was obvious. Think of those bands that put out so-so records but if you took one or two songs from each one of their albums, you'd have one killer album (say, I don't know, Prince post-comeback). That's not an album band. An album band makes whole albums of good songs.

Man I don't remember writing that so I'm going to go ahead and blame it on whiskey gremlins.  

Also... Fugazi isn't so much old dudes who are really into hardcore playing songs as they are old dudes who kind of invented hardcore playing songs.  Surely that gives them a little leeway with the definition of the term
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One time I ordered the Minor Threat collected EP's album from the Dischord site and had it mailed to Norway, just so I could say that I had bought a post-hardcore album

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Fucked Up isn't a hardcore band the way Black Flag was.. But maybe that's why I like them.
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dogg do the dudes sound like they are playing hardcore?

trust me fugazi is not hardcore its old guys who are into hardcore playing songs.

Break-In, Great Cop, Public Witness Program, Back To Base, Five Corporations... yep, sounds like hardcore to me.

I like Fucked Up, but they're not even the best Canadian hardcore band of the last 20 years.

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I Can Put My Arm Back On You Can't, probably.
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The Swarm. Parasitic Skies is just fucking ridiculous, an absolutely savage record. When some of those guys went on to do Cursed that was them toning things down and getting a bit soft.

Propagandhi are easily better than Fucked Up as well, and possibly better than The Swarm. That's a tough call though. And Chokehold, Content With Dying is a beast of an album. And Left For Dead are better too, obviously. Can't count out Shotmaker either, they were fantastic. And hell, I still really like Submission Hold even if they are a bit cheesy and I'd probably take Progress (As If Survival Mattered) over any of Fucked Up's records.
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Dude Propaghandi were fucking incredible
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Sometimes I get worried by the vast extent to which I realise what I'm saying is just a clumsy, overwrought version of Propagandhi lyrics (except for the odd exception like Ladies' Night In Loserville). Now I think hard about it they probably are the best hardcore band of the last twenty years, bar none.
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Dude Propaghandi were fucking incredible

then john k samson left OWNED
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Propagandhi were tolerable for the time John K Samson was there but by and large they were embarassingly clumsy and overwrought and fairly lame.

I honestly don't understand your outrage, dovey. The only decent hardcore bands were the ones that moved away from the hardcore sound like Fugazi,Rites of Spring, Slint, Husker Du, The Minutemen (it must be noted that although Black Flag moved away from the archetypical hardcore sound, they were never a good band).
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The two notable exceptions being Minor Threat and Bad Brains. It's odd to me how the two bands which effectively originated the subgenre made a continuation of the sound more or less an irrelevance. If I want to hear some Hardcore, I don't ever feel the urge reach past the early records by those two bands. Nothing sounds quite as good to me.
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Why does the discussion of hardcore never veer away from like, six pitchfork-approved bands from two cities in America?
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