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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #200 on: 21 Jul 2010, 19:39 »

eh, well I guess it's nice somebody managed to match Squeenix in the CG dept.
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« Reply #201 on: 21 Jul 2010, 19:53 »

Blizzard has always been on par with Squeenix in CG, just much less prolific.

Compare Warcraft 3 and Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy XI (all of which are from 2002)
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« Reply #202 on: 21 Jul 2010, 20:02 »

Diablo 2 was pretty impressive stuff for 2000.
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« Reply #203 on: 22 Jul 2010, 00:59 »

Pity their script writing is awful.
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« Reply #204 on: 22 Jul 2010, 01:01 »

the original SC script wasn't awful, but it wasn't very good either. WC3 was bloody terrible though
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« Reply #205 on: 22 Jul 2010, 01:14 »

I like the SC script, and the Diablo/D2/WC2 scripts. Things started going seriously wrong with WC3 though, I agree. Pretty much anything involving orcs since then has been completely embarrassing.
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #206 on: 22 Jul 2010, 10:36 »

Welp my computer is going to be able to run this game.

It looks like I am going to buy this game for the single player campaign.
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« Reply #207 on: 22 Jul 2010, 11:44 »

I really enjoyed the multiplayer.  The matchmaking definitely succeeds in getting you to a 50/50 win rate over time.

The story for SC and BW was fantastic, imo.  I have no doubt the single player story will be great for SC2.

Also, the whole mission based planetary grid thing sounds exciting. 

That and those screens of being able to buy upgrades throughout the campaign look awesome.
  Example :  http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/108/1085596/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-20100422021900026.jpg
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« Reply #208 on: 22 Jul 2010, 14:58 »

That looks pretty damn awesome. I expect that experimenting with those research options will give a lot of replay value.
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« Reply #209 on: 22 Jul 2010, 18:21 »

yeah multiplayer is one thing but the singleplayer looks to be balls-to-the-wall awesome and different
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« Reply #210 on: 23 Jul 2010, 09:45 »

Anyone else really miss Sarah Kerrigan's old voice?
 
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #211 on: 23 Jul 2010, 09:50 »

I missed it.

Man I am going to brush up on my RTS skills before this comes out next week.
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« Reply #212 on: 23 Jul 2010, 14:07 »

Anyone else really miss Sarah Kerrigan's old voice?
 
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #213 on: 23 Jul 2010, 23:32 »

I think Sarah Kerrigan's new voice seems much more suited to her. It's almost more mature sounding, makes sense.

But if they used the same voice actor I would be much happier regardless.
Also I like how by the end of all the pre-release hype people only notice how awesome the actual story of the game is every time Blizzard releases a trailer, and then after a while revert back to going over the multiplayer mechanics with a magnifying glass.
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« Reply #214 on: 24 Jul 2010, 03:50 »

Yeah I am essentially going to force myself to play single player as quickly as possible so I can justify going back to squashing 4gates.
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #215 on: 24 Jul 2010, 08:23 »

Yeah I am essentially going to force myself to play single player as quickly as possible so I can justify going back to squashing 4gates.

How does one squash a 4-gate?  What race do you play?
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« Reply #216 on: 24 Jul 2010, 10:06 »

I am not going to play single player as fast as possible. I am going to enjoy that shit.
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« Reply #217 on: 24 Jul 2010, 11:00 »

Yeah I am essentially going to force myself to play single player as quickly as possible so I can justify going back to squashing 4gates.

How does one squash a 4-gate?  What race do you play?


Ghost Marine Medivac, emp scatters big toss armies like nothing else.
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« Reply #218 on: 24 Jul 2010, 12:19 »

Yeah I am essentially going to force myself to play single player as quickly as possible so I can justify going back to squashing 4gates.

How does one squash a 4-gate?  What race do you play?


Ghost Marine Medivac, emp scatters big toss armies like nothing else.

Terran are cheap.  I wouldn't be surprised with a launch patch nerf.
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« Reply #219 on: 24 Jul 2010, 12:26 »

Yeah finding a solution to the most aggressive open in the game is cheap :rollies:
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« Reply #220 on: 24 Jul 2010, 12:39 »

4-gating was probably just as cheap until he came up with something to beat it.
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« Reply #221 on: 24 Jul 2010, 12:43 »

EMP is also a scare tactic, the reaction it can cause is so much of a variable and there is so much room for transition in the midgame (marine ball vs templar? call me cheap i dare you) that you don't just build ghosts and medivacs and beat a 4 gate.
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #222 on: 24 Jul 2010, 15:10 »

I am not going to play single player as fast as possible. I am going to enjoy that shit.

The single player campaign is the only aspect of Starcraft 2 that interests me in the slightest, since I really enjoyed the first game's campaign. But it's not enough to override my blanket 'fuck Activision' rule, especially since they want to charge for it 3 times. Oh well.
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« Reply #223 on: 24 Jul 2010, 15:53 »

Also fuck Sony for making me pay for God of War 3 times and Rockstar for making me pay for GTA 7 times and Nintendo for making me pay for Zelda 180 times hurfdurfhurfdurf

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« Reply #224 on: 24 Jul 2010, 16:07 »

doing the digital download. im at 4% and its been about 2 hours. :|
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« Reply #225 on: 24 Jul 2010, 19:40 »

Yeah, I don't have much time/patience for multiplayer anything these days.  I play games to have fun, not deal with dipshits.
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« Reply #226 on: 24 Jul 2010, 19:40 »

That is to say: I'ma play me some fuggin' single player Starcraft 2
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #227 on: 24 Jul 2010, 21:08 »

Hey guys.

We can play some multi together you know.

Maybe head up against some AIs who, in my limited experience from the beta, are now pretty darn solid competition.
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« Reply #228 on: 24 Jul 2010, 22:45 »

My experience in the beta was that everyone was pretty alright people. I'm sure that will change now that anyone can just buy the game and you don't need to be friends with someone to get a key, but I still have hope.
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« Reply #229 on: 25 Jul 2010, 05:10 »

My (very most optimistic) hopes for the SC2 player base is that with the long grounded traditions of the first game that we will see new players and young players learning the professional SC2 etiquette as normal. Obviously this is not going to mean I don't expect a flood of gurgling morons but I would at the very least hope to see a culture as dedicated as Starcraft's to usher in a new generation and become the first steps to a longer lasting competitive community.
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« Reply #230 on: 25 Jul 2010, 07:06 »

beat mouse it sounds like you're making a campaign promise.
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« Reply #231 on: 25 Jul 2010, 11:19 »

No I've already stated I don't really care about the campaign. *soggy trumpet*

But I really do hope that SC2 is a major player in esports becoming popular outside of South Korea, idealistic or not.
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« Reply #232 on: 25 Jul 2010, 14:13 »

About that, the rather great SC2 commentators HD and Husky are a part of a pretty big, new project on youtube, The Game Station. It's a collaboration between a lot of video game commentators and people like that, and the channel is going to contain the best of and important updates from all of those channels. One of the ones you should check out is PressHeartToContinue, which is a pretty cute girl talking pretty intelligently about gaming.
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« Reply #233 on: 25 Jul 2010, 16:25 »

She's probably reading from a script.  Everyone knows cute girls don't play video games, only fat and pimply ones.

You've been fooled.

edit: Korean girls might be an exception.
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« Reply #234 on: 26 Jul 2010, 22:31 »

Screw everyone that has this game right now.
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« Reply #235 on: 27 Jul 2010, 08:11 »

Screw everyone that has this game right now.

I concur.  Stupid 5 day shipping . . .
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« Reply #236 on: 27 Jul 2010, 10:10 »

So one of the mutations Kerrigan's got are these spikes that come out of the bottom of her feet so it's like she's wearing heels. The more I think about it the less odd it seems, but it totally threw me for bit.
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #237 on: 27 Jul 2010, 11:17 »



I am NOT paying full price for this game...

it's just not in me to do so...
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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #238 on: 27 Jul 2010, 11:23 »



I am NOT paying full price for this game...

it's just not in me to do so...

I got mine for $40.  /shrug
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« Reply #239 on: 27 Jul 2010, 11:25 »

Where???

How???

$40????  That is way better than any deal I found!!!
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« Reply #240 on: 27 Jul 2010, 13:39 »

I am NOT paying full price for this game...

it's just not in me to do so...

This is one of the few games I can justify paying for and you're going to give it shit for making a complicated joke referring to a commonly used term. This man is no nerd, he is an impostor.
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« Reply #241 on: 27 Jul 2010, 13:46 »

srsly guy fuck you, if any game is worth full price it's this one.
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« Reply #242 on: 27 Jul 2010, 15:21 »

Also fuck Sony for making me pay for God of War 3 times and Rockstar for making me pay for GTA 7 times and Nintendo for making me pay for Zelda 180 times hurfdurfhurfdurf

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« Reply #243 on: 27 Jul 2010, 16:29 »

Where???

How???

$40????  That is way better than any deal I found!!!

Gamestop was having a 15% off sale (if I remember correctly) if you spend over $100.  My friend and I went in on a copy of SC2 and found an additional % off code. 

Brought us to $80+cents with shipping (5-10 day . . *grumble*).
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« Reply #244 on: 27 Jul 2010, 17:15 »

Ok DavidGrohl so that is not paying less than $60 that is paying $80 for the CE and getting joint custody.

For all the people telling me to go fuck myself bear in mind I almost NEVER pay full price for video games.  (The exception being RE4)  I am just a cheap piece of shit.

My main gripe is that NOBODY is having any specials on this game.  Generally I can find a reduced price somewhere or SOME sort of incentive to buy the game.  But there are no worthy sales.  The only thing is the Kmart thing where you get an extra $20 certificate to spend on other games from Kmart.  (And there was that Dell thing for $15 off which I missed out on)

That pylon joke is GOLD dammit.  Gold.
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« Reply #245 on: 27 Jul 2010, 18:23 »

Ok DavidGrohl so that is not paying less than $60 that is paying $80 for the CE and getting joint custody.

For all the people telling me to go fuck myself bear in mind I almost NEVER pay full price for video games.  (The exception being RE4)  I am just a cheap piece of shit.

My main gripe is that NOBODY is having any specials on this game.  Generally I can find a reduced price somewhere or SOME sort of incentive to buy the game.  But there are no worthy sales.  The only thing is the Kmart thing where you get an extra $20 certificate to spend on other games from Kmart.  (And there was that Dell thing for $15 off which I missed out on)

That pylon joke is GOLD dammit.  Gold.

No, that's two copies of retail regular Starcraft 2 for $80.  One for myself and one for a friend split two ways, $40 a piece.  That was a few months ago.

Dell was selling pre-orders for $45 last Thursday with free shipping.

Newegg.com has a combo option with SC2 : http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/37282/thermaltake-element-g-(black)-atx-mid-tower-case-starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-(pc)-game

KMart has a deal going on :  SC2 for $60 with a $20 KMart giftcard towards future game purchases : http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/37268/starcraft-2-wings-of-liberty-$20-kmart-credit-for-future-game-purchase


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Re: Starcraft 2
« Reply #246 on: 27 Jul 2010, 19:26 »

I was thinking it was the CE for $80 you were talking about for some reason.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268508

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« Reply #247 on: 28 Jul 2010, 14:53 »

Hell yeah! Got the Collectors edition today. The single player is pretty damn awesome, and the art book is pretty nice. I think I'll wait with the making off until I'm finished playing though the game, and I'll read the comics before I sleep today, so I'll get back to that tomorrow.

SPOLIERZ ON GAMEPLAY

Between each mission, you go to your ship (for the two first missions or so, it's a pub), and get as much plot exposition as you want. There's the support characters to talk to, a TV to watch (the propaganda machine only works halfways, there's a bit of humor in that), and so on.

You can also spend the money you earn on missions (there's a price set, no other fancy way of earning anything) on either upgrades for your units and buildings, or on new mercenary companies to hire. The merc companies can be trained in a special building, and are available in all missions after you've hired them. They're improved standard units that come at a rather high mineral price, and with a cool-down before you can use them again.

There's also the lab, where you research the protoss or zerg. You gain research points in during the missions by doing optional missions - kill some überzerg or steal some protoss thingy. If you fail to do this the first time, I think you can do the mission again to pick up whatever you missed out on. When you get enough points, you can pick between two upgrades, like making your units shoot faster, get a new turret, and so on. Between that and armory upgrades, a lot of the stuff in single player is way more powerful than in vanilla multiplayer. My bunkers can have six marines in them, and has an additional mounted turret atop of it, and they all have a +5% firing speed. Ca-ching! Some stuff, like the marauder's concussive shells, can only be gotten this way.

The missions are pretty fun as well, they've even managed to make an escort mission that was just plain fun, not a hassle, and you always have at least two to choose between. The story is playing out pretty well, the voice acting is... varying, but all over good enough, I guess, and all in all I'm happy with the game. It's starting to look pretty awesome.
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« Reply #248 on: 28 Jul 2010, 19:37 »

Thanks for the mini-review.  It's better than anything I've read on the game so far (description-wise).
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« Reply #249 on: 28 Jul 2010, 19:42 »

One minor quibble is that I lost battle.net connection in the middle of a mission for some reason, and I never got my achievements for that mission and the one I did after. Punks.

Campaign is quite a bit of fun thus far though.
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