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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #100 on: 16 Nov 2010, 04:59 »

Eh, if I wanted to play an action-rpg I'd go and play an action-rpg. Wasn't Dragon Age: Origins supposed to be some sort of a "spiritual successor" to Baldur's Gate 2? DA2 is looking less and less like a traditional crpg.

I really want to like DA2. I really do. DA: O was the best game I've played in recent memory, but after the disappointment that was Awakening/Witch Hunt/pretty much every recent Bioware dlc I'm starting to lose faith.

Don't disappoint me, Bioware.
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« Reply #101 on: 07 Dec 2010, 23:16 »

So with the latest character concept they've unleashed a monster - even at this early juncture he seems to be surpassing Tali as the Bioboards creepster obsessive object of choice.
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« Reply #102 on: 07 Dec 2010, 23:39 »

Varric is a total Lothario.
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« Reply #103 on: 08 Dec 2010, 00:12 »

That's not the guy, the new guy is a white Drizz't with glowing tats.

But Varric is plenty creepy.
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« Reply #104 on: 08 Dec 2010, 01:10 »

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« Reply #105 on: 08 Dec 2010, 09:41 »

I like how the Crow Assassins are so badass that they can walk around in hilariously literal-minded uniforms and still do their jobs.
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« Reply #106 on: 08 Dec 2010, 19:22 »

So get this: The dialog system is a "stance" system wherein you choose a tone and what your character says is based on that tone. You can just choose one and just let it go for the entire conversation!

It's so brilliant it's a wonder no one's done it before!

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Apparently they just had a bunch of journalists come in and they were given the current build of the game to play.
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« Reply #107 on: 09 Dec 2010, 09:58 »

So get this: The dialog system is a "stance" system wherein you choose a tone and what your character says is based on that tone. You can just choose one and just let it go for the entire conversation!

It's so brilliant it's a wonder no one's done it before!

So I don't know nothin' bout these vidya games all you kids are talkin' 'bout so I dunno if this is sarcastic or not. Is this sarcastic? I feel like it has been used before, but I'd be hard pressed to think of where. At the very least it reminds me of being able to choose the "stance" of yr units in RTS games, be it passive (units only attack when ordered), defensive (units attack when attacked) or belligerent (units attack any enemy units within range).
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« Reply #108 on: 09 Dec 2010, 10:19 »

Alpha Protocol did it, and it was one of the better systems in the game.
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« Reply #109 on: 17 Dec 2010, 15:01 »

Over at SA people are having a lot of fun with the awesome rationale Bioware has given for not making Friendly Fire a toggle:

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Attaching things to toggles is great, but if someone flips that on and doesn't know that it will suddenly make their "Easy" game not quite so Easy anymore... well, that wouldn't be good.

Toggles need to work for everyone, and we need to balance accordingly. An option that's more for advanced users is the kind of thing you'd stick in as an .ini file setting, I'd suspect. Feel free to ask for something different, but I think there's more affected by such a change than you'd think.
Bioware: Sensitive to the needs of those who don't understand how binary switches work.
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« Reply #110 on: 17 Dec 2010, 18:14 »

Isn't that nice of them.
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« Reply #111 on: 17 Dec 2010, 20:40 »

That's kind of a bullshit way of representing their argument. They're not saying or even implying that people don't understand what a binary toggle is. They're saying people may not realize the extent to which a friendly fire toggle could invalidate the descriptions attached to the overall difficulty slider. Considering the power of AoE spells in DA:O I can easily imagine a scenario in which easy mode with friendly fire toggled on is more difficult than a default or even advanced level of difficulty that doesn't feature friendly fire. That's a mixed signal and if you want to appeal to mass audiences rather than just the people who have habitually played RPGs I can understand why you'd want clean that shit up. Remember, plenty of normal gamers will expect a polished experience with whatever standard menu options they select. If people are just expected to grab difficulty options ala carte you're bound to end up with a few users who would have had a better experience if they had chosen a combination of settings the developers had actively balanced the game around. That's why I think that even if they cave on this they should probably throw such options into some kind of advanced difficulty tab rather than give the impression that they had everyone in mind.

TLDR version: I'm fine with the idea that Bioware doesn't really want to cater to those people who want to play nightmare mode but only if they can spam magic spells while safely loitering around in their personal swirling cloud of death.
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« Reply #112 on: 18 Dec 2010, 01:07 »

I don't think it's a bad idea to make AoE integrated into difficulty sliders (indeed, that's the way it's always been). I'm just pointing out the fact that DA2's lead designer is a functional retard.

I mean, that is an incredibly dumb statement, even after his comparison between the Qunari and the Islamic faith which actually seemed to freak out the people who should probably be keeping better tabs on what he writes in public.

Also there seems to be some consternation over the newly revealed White Drizz't character -
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Because there is apparently a fantasy writer named Joe Ambercrombie who featured in his work a character who was turned into a living weapon by magic tattoos he had. His name was, you guessed it, Fenris.
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« Reply #113 on: 18 Dec 2010, 03:32 »

I have not seen more moaning about utterly pointless things (and you know, Ad Hominem attacks on one of the developers)  since the actual bioware forums, so that's at least an impressive showing by KvP.

And I had a little look at that, but Fenris in that novel seems to be a "Dragon with an Agenda" I couldn't find much refference to tattoo'ing on TVtropes.
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« Reply #114 on: 18 Dec 2010, 03:50 »

I don't see anything wrong with their explanation on the (non) inclusion of a friendly fire toggle. 'Casual' (for want of a better word) gamers won't necessarily realize how much more difficult that could make the game, and thus could have their experience ruined or at the very least degraded. People who understand what kind of effects it will have should be more than capable of using the .ini.
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« Reply #115 on: 18 Dec 2010, 04:16 »

Unless they're playing on a console.
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« Reply #116 on: 18 Dec 2010, 07:27 »

But, everybody knows that only halo-players with 3-second attention spans play on consoles!

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« Reply #117 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:04 »

And I had a little look at that, but Fenris in that novel seems to be a "Dragon with an Agenda" I couldn't find much refference to tattoo'ing on TVtropes.
I haven't read the books but the people on SA who have are pretty adamant. I mean the least they could do is choose another name.

I'm waiting in anticipation for Dragon Age 3: "I spent all night trying to figure out how to carefully preserve the balance in our game, and then it hit me - the Player Character should not be able to be killed by enemies. It just defeats the purpose of the combat if you can fail."
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« Reply #118 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:20 »

Worked in Fable. As long as the storyline is good or the game itself fun to play most people are willing to forgive things like death.

And well, the guy was called "Fenris the feared" and the only descriptor I could find of him was as a "mountain of muscle". I mean it might just be that bioware simply decided to do something different. And considering that "other fenris" was essentially a villain's henchman/starscream I fail to see how its like the lithe elven assassin other than in name and tat's. Its like saying that "Oh Louis the XIV and XV were the same because they lived most of their lives in Versailles, had mistresses and ran France". There are similiarities but they are not the same.
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« Reply #119 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:32 »

On the contrary, if Louis XIV and XV were both fabricated characters by different authors in different universes, there would be a problem there.
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« Reply #120 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:45 »

Worked in Fable. As long as the storyline is good or the game itself fun to play most people are willing to forgive things like death.

unfortunately fable is also not very good
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« Reply #121 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:46 »

Oh no the people on SA are adamant whatever will Bioware do
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« Reply #122 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:47 »

Maybe, personally I don't see the trouble myself, and to me Fenris sounds more like a "hero of another story" I mean think about it, he's amnesiac, good at fighting and running away from his mentors and responsibilities. To me that sounds like the start of another story by bioware.

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« Reply #123 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:48 »

I think Bioware might just cry into their piles of money all night because some goons can abstract one character to sound like another
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« Reply #124 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:54 »

"Make them stop!" they will wail "This might cost us upwards of $1000 if some neckbeards keep making fun of our multi-million dollar franchises."
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« Reply #125 on: 18 Dec 2010, 14:56 »

There is an "edit" function dude.

And yeah I think that people may be stretching it a bit, personally I'm getting this anyway, so I don't mind too much. Its just seems a bit of a silly thing to devote time to attacking.
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« Reply #126 on: 18 Dec 2010, 15:29 »

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« Reply #127 on: 19 Dec 2010, 02:06 »

There is an "edit" function dude.

How have we gone all this time without somebody noticing this?

Finally, there is no need for all that dreadful double posting!
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« Reply #128 on: 19 Dec 2010, 02:45 »

I just think there doesn't seem to be any point to posting again when you have to do minor alterations or additions to a prior statement.
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« Reply #129 on: 19 Dec 2010, 11:06 »

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« Reply #131 on: 19 Dec 2010, 15:46 »

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« Reply #132 on: 19 Dec 2010, 16:06 »

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« Reply #135 on: 20 Dec 2010, 02:41 »

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« Reply #136 on: 20 Dec 2010, 02:55 »

I may be hopelessly Naiive,

I may be hopelessly Naiive,

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« Reply #137 on: 20 Dec 2010, 04:52 »

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« Reply #138 on: 20 Dec 2010, 04:58 »

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« Reply #139 on: 20 Dec 2010, 04:58 »

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« Reply #140 on: 20 Dec 2010, 04:59 »

I thought naiive was intended as a way of showing the diŠresis in na´ve, but that was ingenuous of me...

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« Reply #141 on: 20 Dec 2010, 05:06 »

in threads where i appear to be the worst mod ever?
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« Reply #142 on: 20 Dec 2010, 05:07 »

i prefer using na´f, as in, "i didn't realise i referred a na´f to the hall of the goatman"
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« Reply #143 on: 20 Dec 2010, 14:01 »

On the contrary, if we characterize something as faulty, replicating its  ideas becomes improvement or rehabilitation instead of appropriation. To be fair to Bioware this process has been going on with Tolkien for a long time with a lot of writers. I take Tolkienesque high fantasy and add a bit of slavery / genocide / rape, and my debt to him is minimized as my work is more "realistic" and less "fantastical" than mere fantasy. I'm serious! Thus it's "dark" fantasy instead of fantasy, as though that really meant something.
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« Reply #144 on: 20 Dec 2010, 14:29 »

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« Reply #145 on: 20 Dec 2010, 15:05 »

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« Reply #146 on: 20 Dec 2010, 15:08 »

So i got the Dragon Age:  Origins Ultimate Edition at a pretty good price and I am surprised by one thing.  Instead of having the content on a disc that I can play off of they make you download all of the content, even Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening.
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« Reply #147 on: 20 Dec 2010, 15:14 »

I guess at this point they've gotten over the "some people don't have internet" hump.
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« Reply #148 on: 20 Dec 2010, 16:18 »

That's not the problem.  All the stuff is already on the second disc, but instead of going straight into it you have to download everything on the disc to your hard drive to play it.  At least you get to choose what you want to download instead of all of it together.
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« Reply #149 on: 20 Dec 2010, 16:42 »

Actually I didn't look at the thing, I just know what it is and seemed to have confussed you all with rubbish phrasing.
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