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Author Topic: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)  (Read 56332 times)

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #350 on: 12 Nov 2010, 20:32 »

Dora is now leaping way past that line, which she kinda has a right to do now that Faye managed to roll the ball up the hill for her.

What?  Am I missing some quirk of logic here?  When someone rolls a metaphorical ball up a proverbial hill, suddenly someone has a right to invade another's privacy?... 

Huh??
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #351 on: 12 Nov 2010, 22:14 »

I am going to throw my fedora into teh ring and take a guess, Martens porn is something like female superheroes or comic characters. Nothing particularly horrible, just something that he doesn't want the 3+weeks of jokes over. Also, I could see him asking them to avoid it simply because Pintsize enjoys mischief and given the porn he keeps for his own personal use, him deciding to share that with Dora and then fearing another chain of frustration.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #352 on: 12 Nov 2010, 22:42 »

My god...it happened.

Poor Marten...he has two girlfriends.  :psyduck:
...unless it's pics of his ex.  :-o




That's it, that's what Marten's porn contains...

Lot's and lot's of threesomes with one skinny pale/goth chick and one busty chick.

He doesn't want either of them to see because of the inevitable drama-tastrophe that would occur.

I'm talking serious weapons-grade drama.


And as for all the folks saying that Marten's into pegging, I doubt that Dora would have serious hang-ups with that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure she'd be totally into it.

In fact, she may have already introduced it to him!

Goddammit! One of these days I'll learn to type.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #353 on: 13 Nov 2010, 00:48 »

Derp

Uhhh yeah because snooping behind someone's back is the only way to find out things about each other??

They both suck for having been in this relationship for a while and have never openly discussed this. Marten sucks for not being honest with Dora when she asks, and Dora sucks for snooping.

It's a valid point, but my point was that there's at worst a minor faux pas occurring here and not a travesty or even anything troubling.


Anyway, here's a thought I had a while ago: What if Marten's a chubby chaser? It's a much more common kink than a lot of people think, and it would have huge implications. Dora starts believing that Marten's not genuinely attracted to her despite his insistence that he still finds thin women attractive, and the porn is just because it's the one fantasy he isn't able to live out (also relatively common). She spirals into a depression at what she perceives as the revelation that her whole relationship's been a lie, and unlike all their other problems, no amount of talking it out seems to make her feel better or make her feel like the problem's less dire than it is. Meanwhile, Faye, still battling never-ending body image issues, thinks back to Marten's attraction to her and wonders if it was part of his fetish or if it was "genuine". Being somewhat pessimistic as she is occasionally prone to being, she concludes it must be the former, and then falls into the trap of viewing his attraction to her as perverse or impure, and consequently something to disregard or even feel bad about.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #354 on: 13 Nov 2010, 08:29 »

It's worse than all that - Marten has no porn.

But does have a substantial collection of Fanfic
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #355 on: 13 Nov 2010, 08:53 »

If he was serious, he would have said "Dora, this is actually important to me and I'm not kidding around. I'm not comfortable with sharing this, and you need to respect my privacy."

He opted for a joke, so who is going to take him seriously?
<snip>

That's funny, because that's really not how I heard him say that little piece in the third panel. I heard a very serious, nearly sinister voice. Almost "Hello, Clarice"-like.


Yes, that together with that final 'hey!' I think Dora's actual problem here is that although she takes relationships very seriously, sex itself, she doesn't. Marten himself shares this attitude to a certain point, but that doesn't extend to porn, it seems, likely because of his mother's involvement with it—think about how it would be to have a mother that cool about masturbation. Teen boys being what they are, I'd guess that would cause you to hide both it and everything associated with your masturbation like fury. Just because.

Meaning, even if I'm wrong (a faint possibility—ha!), Veronica's still involved. The more I think about it, the more this fits in with my theory of Pintsize doing things Marten won't let himself, but secretly longs to. You know, like wearing Faye's panties on his head.

And Delator, I don't think Marten has two girlfriends so much as Faye has suddenly realized he has some real boundaries—something many have accused him of lacking. They're there, just buried fairly deeply under that equanom equamnit even-steven facade.


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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #356 on: 13 Nov 2010, 09:19 »

The hanzi under my avatar are a famous saying of Mao Zedong which translates as "Women hold up half the sky", a poetic way of saying that women have an equal part to play in society. Another noble dream yet to be fulfilled.  :-D

So both Mao and Wil become uncontrollably poetic around ladies? According to Qiu Xiaolong's detective stories Chinese intelligenzia spends a lot of time citing ancient poetry, but I hazard a guess that Dora is closer to the mark and Mao used a speech writer.

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #357 on: 13 Nov 2010, 10:17 »

It's worse than all that - Marten has no porn.
But does have a substantial collection of Fanfic

All written by Marigold.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #358 on: 13 Nov 2010, 10:45 »

It's worse than all that - Marten has no porn.
But does have a substantial collection of Fanfic

All written by Marigold.

This. I mean, it only makes sense. Jeph DID say this was all going to tie together.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #359 on: 13 Nov 2010, 11:21 »

HAHA I finally found out what Dora'll find: thousands and thousands of pictures of tentacle porn!

Then she will worry about growing tentacles
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #360 on: 13 Nov 2010, 11:49 »

IanClark's suggestion makes a disturbing amount of sense.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #361 on: 13 Nov 2010, 14:19 »

Dora is now leaping way past that line, which she kinda has a right to do now that Faye managed to roll the ball up the hill for her.

What?  Am I missing some quirk of logic here?  When someone rolls a metaphorical ball up a proverbial hill, suddenly someone has a right to invade another's privacy?... 

Huh??

Dora got the topic started, but then Faye did all the heavy lifting Dora would have otherwise done had Faye not been there. Once Marten got Faye to stop, Dora kept right on going.


...yeah, it made more sense to me when I wrote it the first time.  :lol:
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #362 on: 13 Nov 2010, 16:21 »

IanClark's suggestion makes a disturbing amount of sense.

You think?  I don't see it, myself.  I tend to think he's pornless.  He's in a pretty sexually active relationship, and at those times in my life i always found I abandoned the porn. 

I was too busy...
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #363 on: 13 Nov 2010, 17:25 »

And what about Marten's porn stash consisting of pieces belonging to the top of the heap of the genre, with clever shootings, tasteful scenarios, subtle play on the various levels of erotism, participants sometimes actually touching each other elsewhere than on genital parts, etc?
Y'know, the kind of stuff that would take a disturbing amount of research to find on the Net – or anywhere actually.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #364 on: 13 Nov 2010, 17:54 »

...porn stash consisting of pieces belonging to the top of the heap of the genre, with clever shootings, tasteful scenarios, subtle play on the various levels of erotism, participants sometimes actually touching each other elsewhere than on genital parts, etc?
You know, I think I'd even pay Pintsize his extortionist prices to get my hands on  some of that.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #365 on: 13 Nov 2010, 19:49 »

Is it really that hard to get your hands on a copy of Jacques?
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #366 on: 13 Nov 2010, 21:00 »

And what about Marten's porn stash consisting of pieces belonging to the top of the heap of the genre, with clever shootings, tasteful scenarios, subtle play on the various levels of erotism, participants sometimes actually touching each other elsewhere than on genital parts, etc?
Y'know, the kind of stuff that would take a disturbing amount of research to find on the Net – or anywhere actually.

My boyfriend works at a sex store, this is doable. Not common, but doable.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #367 on: 13 Nov 2010, 23:43 »

Seriously, with a girlfriend like Dora, who needs any more porn ?



But what will Dora find?  

She will find an AnthroPC who lies to her for his own amusement.

And a wide variety of bizarre porn which stretches the limits of Rule 34.
None of it will be Marten's, and the mystery will continue.
I think thats very likely. I believe that, between the lines, todays comic hints strongly that Marten isnt into anything very original.



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Actually, for once, I'm willing to jump onto the "Dora's a bitch" bandwagon. He asked for privacy, she decides to walk all over it? Then again, it is a typical female reaction, extrapolated a bit. I'm speaking, of course, of one's SO thinking, once you're having sex and everything, that it's okay to walk into the bathroom while you're perched on the throne, and, worse, she actually wants to have a conversation. There are lines, ladies, lines  that should not be crossed. And yet, you trample…

Humorous hyperbole notwithstanding, it would be nice if you could avoid such overt overgeneralizations.  For the record, I am female, I do respect others' privacy, and I sure as hell don't want to see my SO on the toilet, or vice-versa -- we're both closed-bathroom people, tyvm.
Uh, I dont think he wanted to say that every woman behaves uniformely. A certain disrespect for other peoples privacy, especially their love interest, is a kind of behavior I actually know from quite a lot of women in reallife. As I said before, that actually quite charming.



I see it more as teasing than serious transgressions against Marten's privacy.
Kinda like the "I'm gonna tell the boy you have a crush on that you like him" of youth, and Dora seems to be the girl who would go up to said crush say "hi" and get scared before running back to friends giggling.
She'll probably start to ask Pintsize and get scared halfway through.
Then Pintsize will blurt it out anyway.
I really, really, really cant see how this is, in any way, the Dora I know from the comics ?

I think that, short of child porn, nothing would really offend her.



I am calling this one.

His porn collection consists of naked pictures of Raven he found on the Internet.
Hmm, I dont call innocent nude pics "porn". Porn is sex.

Also, IMHO it would be completely understandable that he would keep nudie pics of Raven, if he had been so lucky to find any such things.



The actual clues are around their.

It needs to be something Dora will worry over. (This is why Marten doesn't want to admit it.)

His mother gave him lotion. (So it's something that needs that)

It's obvious that his porn involves men being given anal by strap on. This will worry Dora that he's like his Dad....
I disagree. For all I know, Marten hasnt shown any homosexual tendencies, ever. Also, homosexuality is nothing that you inherit from your parents.



I agree that Marten deserves some privacy, but I don't see this as a privacy issue. As his girlfriend with whom he's very sexually active with, Dora has a right to know what porn excites him.
I think you managed to contradict yourself here.

Or what kind of privacy, in your opinion, does Marten deserve, exactly ?



If he was serious, he would have said "Dora, this is actually important to me and I'm not kidding around. I'm not comfortable with sharing this, and you need to respect my privacy."

He opted for a joke, so who is going to take him seriously? Their relationship isn't as screwed up as some of you seem to think, and I think that some people might be missing the subtext there. If Marten really wants this kept private, he needs to stand up and say so. Does that cause Dora to get concerned and dump him? Maybe. There are some things that people aren't willing or able to bend on, and if you can't accomodate them, then sometimes you have to walk away.
Even Dora and Faye dont react as if they believe Marten tried to joke.

I think he was dead serious. He tried to scare them away from that topic. He doesnt want them to know.



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I'm leaning towards the idea that Marten favors pretty straightforward porn, nothing really raunchy and at most maybe indie girls/suicide girls. :angel: Nothing shocking at all. Which is why he's embarrased. Everyone else has some sort of "exotic" leaning, so he's the odd one out.
That was my first thought: What - you have to be into interesting kinds of porn now ?




And what about Marten's porn stash consisting of pieces belonging to the top of the heap of the genre, with clever shootings, tasteful scenarios, subtle play on the various levels of erotism, participants sometimes actually touching each other elsewhere than on genital parts, etc?
Y'know, the kind of stuff that would take a disturbing amount of research to find on the Net – or anywhere actually.
Sounds like private porn.

You know, two people having sex who are actually in love with each other.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #368 on: 14 Nov 2010, 01:34 »

<snip>

Sounds like private porn.

You know, two people having sex who are actually in love with each other.


...I don't think there actually IS any of that on the net.

Unless that overhead light fixture in his bedroom has more than meets the eye...
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #369 on: 14 Nov 2010, 01:45 »

I agree that Marten deserves some privacy, but I don't see this as a privacy issue. As his girlfriend with whom he's very sexually active with, Dora has a right to know what porn excites him.
I think you managed to contradict yourself here.

Or what kind of privacy, in your opinion, does Marten deserve, exactly ?

I guess I meant like personal space-type privacy, like if he wanted some alone time for whatever reason (not necessarily a sexual one). There are more reasons than sex stuff to want a little space to yourself.

I stand by what I said that Dora should be allowed to know what kind of porn he likes. It's just that right now she's not really going about it the right way; instead of interrogating his computer she could have said something like "how bout you tell me more about it later, when we're alone?" After Marten's little speech to Faye, I don't think Faye'd object to that.

The rest of your post by the way? TL.DR. Just sayin'
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #370 on: 14 Nov 2010, 04:16 »

I stand by what I said that Dora should be allowed to know what kind of porn he likes. It's just that right now she's not really going about it the right way; instead of interrogating his computer she could have said something like "how bout you tell me more about it later, when we're alone?" After Marten's little speech to Faye, I don't think Faye'd object to that.

What bugs me about this is, what's so important about knowing what porn your SO watches? I mean, what you like in porn does not necessarily apply to what you like in bedroom.

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #371 on: 14 Nov 2010, 05:49 »

...homosexuality is nothing that you inherit from your parents.

Thank you, captain obvious! 

Of course, that's assuming homosexuals don't breed. 

I think there may be a fallacy there... and Ihave several personal stories to back it up. 

However, anecdotes aren't data.  Lets just say that you've opened another can o' worms. 
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #372 on: 14 Nov 2010, 10:24 »

Moment Of The Week:

Plenty of Fish in the Sea!    - 0 (0%)
"Psh, I'm not that desperate."    - 6 (7.7%)
I'M SO SORRY!    - 2 (2.6%)
Want me to take off my pants? (No, thanks, you already did that once)    - 7 (9%)
Sorry I made things awkward    - 1 (1.3%)
HERMIONE & GINNY VS. THE SPACE WIZARDS    - 37 (47.4%) - LANDSLIDE!
Puberty stories    - 1 (1.3%)
The Mistaken HS Health Teacher    - 3 (3.8%)
"Why do I need lotion in my bedroom?"    - 5 (6.4%)
What kind of porn does Marten like?    - 4 (5.1%)
"You really wanna do that?..."    - 7 (9%)
Nah, too white bread.    - 5 (6.4%)

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #373 on: 14 Nov 2010, 10:49 »

What if all of Marten's porn stars Marten?
Or at least Marten lookalikes?

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #375 on: 14 Nov 2010, 17:29 »

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http://soundcloud.com/stoferin/spacewizzards

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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #376 on: 14 Nov 2010, 22:46 »

See, I was right. It wasn't on the net. If it would have been, Pintsize would have had it by now.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #377 on: 15 Nov 2010, 01:57 »

...homosexuality is nothing that you inherit from your parents.

Thank you, captain obvious! 

Of course, that's assuming homosexuals don't breed. 

I think there may be a fallacy there... and Ihave several personal stories to back it up. 

However, anecdotes aren't data.  Lets just say that you've opened another can o' worms. 
Hmm ? Homosexuals have children too. The comic itself gives an example for it.

Also, in modern times, at least lesbians have a way to get children without having sex with the opposite gender.

And I would assume that in the future, homosexuals will be able in more and more countries to adopt children, just like normal couples can.
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Re: WCDT 8-12 November 2010 (1791-1795)
« Reply #378 on: 15 Nov 2010, 02:26 »

...homosexuality is nothing that you inherit from your parents.

Thank you, captain obvious! 

Of course, that's assuming homosexuals don't breed. 

I think there may be a fallacy there... and Ihave several personal stories to back it up. 

However, anecdotes aren't data.  Lets just say that you've opened another can o' worms. 
Hmm ? Homosexuals have children too. The comic itself gives an example for it.

Also, in modern times, at least lesbians have a way to get children without having sex with the opposite gender.

And I would assume that in the future, homosexuals will be able in more and more countries to adopt children, just like normal couples can.


I know.  Like I said, I have many personal stories that contradict your assertion.  That means I know a fair nuber of children of homosexuals! 

So, why isn't homosexuality inherited?  There's a great deal of evidence that at least some aspect of homosexuality is genetic (mono-zygotic twin studies), and some aspects are also environmental. 

So unless you thought there was no one for homosexuals to to pass it on to (i.e. non-breeding), what were you talking about? 
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