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[jwhouk]

Sorry, I'm just not up to doing a poll this week.

[pwhodges]

Don't worry, we understand.  I've just been finding out about what's happening in Wisconsin and why, and it's truly appalling that you are (if I read it right) being used as a pawn in this way.

[akronnick]

It would be very difficult for me to express my opinion about the situation in Wisconsin (and other places, here in Ohio they passed an even worse law without so much as a speed bump) without violating the civility expectation, so I'll just say good luck, jwhouk, and don't let the bastards get you down.

[Booknerd86]

Jwhouk, my condolences. My best friend lives in Milwaukee, so I've been hearing a lot about all of this, and I'm sad that you have been affected by it.

Regarding QC, I'm curious to see what this week will bring!

[smilcarek]

I get the strange feeling that tomorrow's comic will be important to the plot...


I don't know why.

[Is it cold in here?]

We've been getting whimsy lately, so it wouldn't be surprising if Jeph switches to drama soon, and a number of dramatic story elements are waiting in the wings.

[bicostp]

If memory serves from the stream on Wednesday, we'll see Steve, Marten, and Cosette walking down the street, and Cosette isn't very happy with Steve.

[TheEvilDog]

Yeah, I mean what have we seen since November (besides the breakup);

• Faye and Angus' relationship becoming that much more serious
• Marigold's unrequited (and unresolved) feelings towards Angus
• Hanners' feelings about the breaking, and her dislike of the disruption of the status quo
• Steve's misstep when he flirted with Padma and accidently forgetting about his girlfriend
• And of course, Marten's discovery of the Secret Bakery and a possible budding friendship with Padma

There is a whole wealth of storylines there, and even more involving Dora, Sven, their relationship together, the therapy Dora obviously needs and her apprehension to actually attend it, and so much more.

Basically, I'm bracing myself for any potential shitstorm.

[Carl-E]

Or some drama with a punchline.  That's always nice, too. 

If Steve, Cosette and Marten are involved, I'm sure the bar incident is mentioned.  So Cosette being unhappy's scarcely a surprise...

But beyond that, a shift of focus would be nice! 

[jwhouk]

Remember we had that hard reverse last time after Faye's VBS. However, that was slightly set up in the background by Jeph with the Gina Riverstone references. I don't know any similar background issues that could prove that hard a turn.

EDIT: Other than the Dora arc we've been expecting, of course.

[jwhouk]

Don't worry, we understand.  I've just been finding out about what's happening in Wisconsin and why, and it's truly appalling that you are (if I read it right) being used as a pawn in this way.

Not a pawn as much as a political football. And we've just been punted into the stands.

[westrim]

*Covers ears* Mommy, make the politics stop!

I suspect we will see Dora do something this week, though what that might be I do not know. Probably therapy.

[Is it cold in here?]

Dora is due for a turn on center stage.

[westrim]

Dude, Marten, way to be supportive in the second panel. Also, did Steve just get dope Gibbs slapped? Also, we really need to know more about this flashbang party thing. Also, I need to stop writing also.

[The Seldom Killer]

Hang on a mo, has Marten broken BrOmerta?

I am disappoint.

[Kazukagii]

Did he tell her the flashbang birthday party story?

If it was anything like the time my birthday party got raided by SWAT, then it's too good a story not to tell people. Flirting or otherwise.

Also way to be a dick Marten. Just because you aren't getting any at the moment doesn't mean you can turn around and throw your bro under the bus. I am dissapoint 

[westrim]

If it was anything like the time my birthday party got raided by SWAT, then it's too good a story not to tell people. Flirting or otherwise.

And yet you aren't telling us ...

[Odal]

If it was anything like the time my birthday party got raided by SWAT, then it's too good a story not to tell people. Flirting or otherwise.

And yet you aren't telling us ...

Maybe because his GF will get jealous...

Steve hasn't been much of a bro to Marten, so I don't think Marten's actions are unjust.  The whole scene of Marten and Steve at the bar was proof that Steve is more socially detrimental to Marten than he is Brotrimental.

[willpell]

I just wanted to point out how awesome it is that violence by jilted women against jilting men is TOTALLY OKAY.  Our society has been quite clear on that point.  Slap, smack, punch - a philanderer has no right to protection from female assault.  Let us all contemplate this revelation and seek to achieve harmony with the Buddha.

[Blackjoker]

I will not comment on Martens actions being appropriate or inappropriate, though I do think that Cossette is probably acting out of proportion. However I really wanted to mention that Martens 'eep' eyes in the last panel amuse me.

[dragontart]

I guess Cosette is not disappoint.
I'd approve of brutal honesty if it weren't just to get back at Steve here, as I suppose. (I like to see Marten being a "dick" once in a while, though.)

But I also don't really get Cosette's problem. Why's she hurting Steve, isn't making herself unnicer a pretty unwise decision when she fears that he find other girls nicer than her?

[westrim]

I just wanted to point out how awesome it is that violence by jilted women against jilting men is TOTALLY OKAY.  Our society has been quite clear on that point.  Slap, smack, punch - a philanderer has no right to protection from female assault.  Let us all contemplate this revelation and seek to achieve harmony with the Buddha.

Nuh-uh. No. This is not going to become yet another gender wars argument that takes up a page and a half of the COMIC thread. Knock it off. Also, watch this and be awed by the equal opportunity slappage on the most watched show in the world, apparently.

[akronnick]

Do we really have to bring this up every time a female character punches or slaps a male character in QC?

Really?

Can we just agree that hitting people* is wrong and move on?

Do we really need to open up a new front in the battle of the sexes just because Cosette gave Steve a harmless and well deserved dope slap?

Seriously. It's only Monday, and cartoon violence has been a part of QC since the fourth strip. That's not going to change anytime soon.

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

 

Yes, that was a line of 10 psyducks. Do you see what happens? Can you see what this is doing to us?


Unless it's part of a pre-arrange "scene," complete with boundries and safe-words and all that jazz, I don't want the BDSM community to turn on me.

[Carl-E]

Also, watch this and be awed by the equal opportunity slappage on the most watched show in the world, apparently.

Rank-induced behavioural correction isn't really the same thing as what Cosette's doing. 

On second thought, it's exactly  the same thing...

[Border Reiver]

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

 

So say we all.

[The Seldom Killer]

Steve hasn't been much of a bro to Marten, so I don't think Marten's actions are unjust. 

Dude, BrOmerta has been invoked in episode 1862 by speaking the hallowed phrase WE! ARE! BROS! infront of a witness.

BrOmerta has been broken for which Marten must now forever be banished by the label of Not Cool Dude, NOT! COOL!

[Black Sword]

Marten could have thrown his bro under the bus, but hesitated. Rather than go either way, he chose to remove himself from the witness stand by honestly stating he wasn't certain, as his own personal bias made his testimony unreliable. The only reason Stee got a Gibbs slap was because rather than asking for judgment, she asked for confirmation of the facts.

Marten has obeyed the letter of the bro code. Marten remains a bro.

[iduguphergrave]

I'm sorry, but Steve was kinda flirting with Padma. I can't blame him for not being sure what to do when Cosette asked if he was flirting and giving an ambiguous answer. Steve put him in an awkward position at the bar.

And I'm really not sure if a violent shake and half-hearted attempt to console before dropping a tactical TMI on Marten qualifies Steve as a bro.

[Delator]

We haven't seen Dora since before the time jump, so I'm curious to see how she's holding up.


I notice the bags under Marten's eyes that manifested in strips 1800/1801 still haven't gone away.   

[Carl-E]

Marten has certainly been a bro to Steve, guiding him through many a love-induced alchoholic binge.  

I'm not too sure how much of a bro Steve's been to Marten, though.  Probably helped him through that first breakup (Vickie, was it?) before comic 0001.  Since then, it's been a while since Steve's done anything broworthy.  

Unlike real brothers, being a bro is not automatically reciprocal.  

[cesariojpn]

"If i'm going down, i'm taking you down with me."

[DoomMagnet]

I don't think Cosette and Steve will break up as of yet, but whats her face from before who professed her undying love for the other dude with his eyes closed almost all the time. Steve's ex. So perhaps Steve's luck with relationships is almost on par with Faye's, though she's doing better.

[Kugai]

Revenge is sweet.   

[Black Sword]

I don't think Cosette and Steve will break up as of yet, but whats her face from before who professed her undying love for the other dude with his eyes closed almost all the time. Steve's ex. So perhaps Steve's luck with relationships is almost on par with Faye's, though she's doing better.

Her name is Meena. It'd be hilarious if Coss and Steve bumped into Meena and Dave right about now.

[DoomMagnet]

Thanks, I had forgotten her name. The reaction should be priceless.

On a side note, how does the random button work? This is a question I have been meaning to ask. Aside from the obvious it puts up random comic. Is there a list it chooses from or something? I ask because I have been bored and came here and started reading from a random point by clicking random. I hardly ever get a comic above the 1000's and the 1400's are unheard of. Its always the old school when I use it, and I have used it many a time. Is it listed or do I just seem to "love" the old comics.

[pwhodges]

The random function calls a perl script at ohnorobot.  The script is clearly a very poor random number generator, and it also only delivers comics that ohnorobot has in its archive (which is missing a fair number of QC).  It seems to me that it would be relatively trivial to do a decent random function in Javascript and drop the call to ohnorobot (having said that, I guess I'm duty bound to do it and ask an admin to implement it...).

[DoomMagnet]

Ah, I see. Thank you for the info.

[Method of Madness]

Also, we really need to more of this flashbang party thing.

Sorry, friend, that's not how Noodle Incidents work.

Modifier: Oh, and to the people going "OMG VIOLENCE", what Cosette did to Steve is what us kids who came of age in the '90s refer to as a "dummy smack".  I have nothing to add besides that, I just felt like some nostalgia.  Oh, middle school

[iduguphergrave]

Why, why, why didn't anyone else (including me) think of using psyduck as a user icon??

[TheEvilDog]

Because Marten's expression in my icon pretty much sums up how I feel most of the time.

[westrim]

Also, we really need to know more about this flashbang party thing.

Sorry, friend, that's not how Noodle Incidents work.

I know. It just frustrates me that a relationship is turning on something we know virtually nothing about.

Why, why, why didn't anyone else (including me) think of using psyduck as a user icon??

Because my name is Westrim, so its icon is built in and usable everywhere.

[Method of Madness]

Also, we really need to know more about this flashbang party thing.

Sorry, friend, that's not how Noodle Incidents work.

I know. It just frustrates me that a relationship is turning on something we know virtually nothing about.

Why, why, why didn't anyone else (including me) think of using psyduck as a user icon??

Because my name is Westrim, so its icon is built in and usable everywhere.

A relationship is turning?  It's probably a bit early for such talk.  As for Psyduck, I've had it as my avatar for a while, I just don't post much.

[jwhouk]

We haven't seen Dora since before the time jump, so I'm curious to see how she's holding up.

Actually, the strip where Hanners dissects the dude trying to hit on her is a post-time-jump Dora.

Also, we really need to more of this flashbang party thing.

Sorry, friend, that's not how Noodle Incidents work.

You get "+10 Good Post" for not linking that to TV Tropes.

[Method of Madness]

Also, we really need to more of this flashbang party thing.

Sorry, friend, that's not how Noodle Incidents work.

You get "+10 Good Post" for not linking that to TV Tropes.

It was hardly a selfless act.  It's not like it's possible to go there just to get a link, I would've been trapped as well.

[akronnick]

You build up a resistance after a while.

After you spend about two or three hundred hours there it starts to get repetitive.

[Method of Madness]

You build up a resistance after a while.

After you spend about two or three hundred hours there it starts to get repetitive.

Yes, but I haven't gone in a while, and I don't wish to relapse.

[BobtheDancingFlea]

Can I just say something about this whole "flirting" incident in that it...is so not an incident at all. I was so surprised when Padma was like, "flirting with a girlfriend, shame on you!" and now Cosette it in the same boat, I just find it so...over-protective. :/ I mean I say this as someone who's in probably the healthiest, most trusting relationship in the world but...I just find it surprising that BOTH girls found it so scandalous, I guess. You can't help when you hit it off with people, and anyone trying to restrict a relationship is going to make it so much more tempting (I mean relationship in the general sense here, not in the romantic sense).
I dunno that just irked me so much jeez.

[iduguphergrave]

It's easier for us to say something like that from an outside perspective; it's easier for us to believe he wasn't flirting because we know he has a girlfriend and has never cheated before (that we've seen, anyway). But the moment Padma realized Steve wasn't gay she recognized what he was doing as flirting. And the fact that Steve was less than enthusiastic about admitting he had a girlfriend kinda points to the conclusion that he wasn't planning to admit that.

Sorry, but in my opinion, no matter how "innocent" it may be, flirting is still romantic and you don't do romantic things with people who aren't  your SO.

[westrim]

Can I just say something about this whole "flirting" incident in that it...is so not an incident at all. I was so surprised when Padma was like, "flirting with a girlfriend, shame on you!" and now Cosette it in the same boat, I just find it so...over-protective. :/ I mean I say this as someone who's in probably the healthiest, most trusting relationship in the world but...I just find it surprising that BOTH girls found it so scandalous, I guess. You can't help when you hit it off with people, and anyone trying to restrict a relationship is going to make it so much more tempting (I mean relationship in the general sense here, not in the romantic sense).
I dunno that just irked me so much jeez.

Your feeling is probably largely because we didn't actually see any of the alleged flirting, just Padme reacting to the tail end of a funny story with no romantic subtext that we could see. But flirting is a pretty loosely defined term anyway, and without knowing more of what the heck happens in that story- or waiting for the next strips- trying to figure out whether what he said was flirting is a fools errand. Marten's reaction could be an indicator, but for all I know he was mostly irked at being *ahem* 'cock blocked', and was just acting that way to get back at Steve for... whatever the heck happened, given that Padmea thought they were gay when she invited Steve over to the table.

Sorry, but in my opinion, no matter how "innocent" it may be, flirting is still romantic and you don't do romantic things with people who aren't  your SO.

Wait, it's still in no way clear that he was doing so. Don't jump from indicators to definite statements like that. And I don't think he was unenthusiastic to admit it; rather, he was sideswiped by the sudden swerve from joviality to relationship talk from Mr. Cockblocked S. Grumpystein.


And hey, TVTropes isn't that bad. Why, I've only got... 296 tabs open. 

[BobtheDancingFlea]

It's easier for us to say something like that from an outside perspective; it's easier for us to believe he wasn't flirting because we know he has a girlfriend and has never cheated before (that we've seen, anyway). But the moment Padma realized Steve wasn't gay she recognized what he was doing as flirting. And the fact that Steve was less than enthusiastic about admitting he had a girlfriend kinda points to the conclusion that he wasn't planning to admit that.

Sorry, but in my opinion, no matter how "innocent" it may be, flirting is still romantic and you don't do romantic things with people who aren't  your SO.

I didn't say he wasn't flirting, though, my whole point is that flirting is not something to get all riled up over. Your last statement makes me realize I must have a MUCH more open view on this sort of thing than most people, haha, although, then again, my boyfriend and I aren't exactly in a..."traditional" relationship I guess, so that could be why I seem to have such different views haha. I just think that whole "you DON'T do romantic things with people who aren't your SO" is the same kind of restrictive view on relationships that only makes the "forbidden" so much more tempting. Just my thoughts on it, don't want to be stepping on any toes here. :1

Westrim also makes a good point in that flirting is a very loosely defined thing...I just think of it as that friendly kind of chat where there is just...OBVIOUS interest going into the conversation but, for people who are involved, they can still engage in that kind of chat as long as they don't progress it any further, because I just don't think you can help what kind of chemistry you have when you chat with someone and how the two of you naturally interact. But, if it's not coming naturally and he's just trying to attract women despite his having a girlfriend, then I guess I can see the issue in that scenario.