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Author Topic: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves  (Read 9630 times)

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for comparison, a 7.9 would be approximately equal to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb

8.9 is 336 megatons
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Shit, isn't Emilio still in Japan?
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Emilio is in gabbly saying he is ok. It is gryff we are worrying about.
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Oh, and everyone else affected by the earthquake, I guess.
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Oh fuck and i thought i was only one who understands news.
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Oh fuck and i thought i was only one who understands news.

What the fuck?
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We have heard news that Gryff is ok.
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Comparatively speaking, that highway collapse could be a lot worse. Apparently highways with 2 supports tend to drop straight down, killing the drivers.
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As Hannah said, i am ok! Gryff is also OK! It was pretty dang scary here in Katsuura but nothing much happened aside from some dang nasty shakes and a small (2 M) tsunami. No deaths though and no apparent damage to the city.
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I am glad you're safe. That is a huge quake.

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At least 1 nuclear plant on fire with problems being reported at 2 other plants in Japan. Tsunami expected to hit Hawaii in the next hour or so.
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I'm glad our forumite friends are safe. I've heard one of my meat life friends that's over in Japan as well is also safe. And everyone else...just hoping for the best.
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I also had meat-life friends in Japan, as it turns out. They are also OK! One of them posted some footage they shot to Facebook, and you can see the concrete in the parking lot they're in cracking as they walk past it. Craziness.
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It took until well in the afternoon for my family to be able to confirm that my cousin was safe.   It was quite a relief when that news finally came.
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My brother lives in Tokyo and he was at work when it hit. He's fine other than the 2-hour walk home because of the transit system shutdown. The videos from the tsunami devastation are horrific.
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Looking like a nuclear power station is in significant difficulty. Not melting down at the moment but evacuation at 10km and exclusion at 60km. A non nuclear explosion has occured and they've had to vent radioactive gasses into the environment.
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A containment wall to the reactor has been compromised, according to Reuters.

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NHK television and Jiji said the outer structure of the building that houses the reactor appeared to have blown off, which could suggest the containment building had already been breached.

Italian geologists reporting that the earth's axis tipped by 25 cm due to the quake, and the island of Japan as a whole shited 2.4 meters. Insane shit.
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The main reactor is housed below ground level. The structure that has blown up is the maintenance and engineering section. That it has blown up doesn't really suggest a breach and looking at the scale and pattern of the explosion it looks likely that this is ignition of a build up of hydrogen gas from an overloaded cooling process that has lost it's venting management. I reckon NHK and Jiji are being speculative. But then I watched the news sat next to an engineer with a rudimentary understanding of nuclear reactors.

The risk of meltdown is certainly high, but a containment breach is by no means definite.
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Wow. I imagine that kind of shift is going to affect the weather, right? As in, globally? That is one hell of a shift. Maps will have to be redrawn. Is this common? I know less than nothing about topography and geology and similar geographical fields.
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I saw a map of the fallout potential in event of a meltdown. Had southern Alaska, BC, parts of other provinces, and the western half of the US in the projected area hit by 750 rads. Good news (really good news considering that 750 rads means 90-100% fatalities of untreated and 50-100% fatalities of treated) is that it's bullshit. Up above a thousand rads is "literally using a shovel to get radioactive molten slag back into the reactor" exposure, 600+ rads is "Sitting in the control room 20 yards from the reactor attempting to do damage control" levels. Just in case anyone else sees that map and gets scared by it.
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I'm glad I read this thread this morning because the CBC is reporting all of that scary stuff completely unmoderated.
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News outlet in sensationalist shite shocker. I am infinitely glad for the fairly moderate and balance voice of the BBC news service.

Also - quite an important difference in terms to distinguish here in the news reports.

Evacuation Zone - an area around an incident from which people will be evacuated. This is a safe distance to which people need to be moved to safeguard them from harm from the incident.
Exclusion Zone - An area around an incident from which people will be prevented from entering. This is usually a measure put in place to prevent crowding in an area where safety measures are being executed and is largely designed to prevent services and and authorities being hampered by news crews, concerned civillians and other commercial activity.
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I saw a map of the fallout potential in event of a meltdown. Had southern Alaska, BC, parts of other provinces, and the western half of the US in the projected area hit by 750 rads. Good news (really good news considering that 750 rads means 90-100% fatalities of untreated and 50-100% fatalities of treated) is that it's bullshit. Up above a thousand rads is "literally using a shovel to get radioactive molten slag back into the reactor" exposure, 600+ rads is "Sitting in the control room 20 yards from the reactor attempting to do damage control" levels. Just in case anyone else sees that map and gets scared by it.

Yeah I saw that too. What tipped me off about it being bullshit was that it was allegedly issued by the 'Australian Radiation Services' or something, which is a private company that sells radiation safety stuff and not the sort of organisation that would issue a map like that ever, let alone at 6 on a Saturday arvo.
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Wow. I imagine that kind of shift is going to affect the weather, right? As in, globally? That is one hell of a shift. Maps will have to be redrawn. Is this common? I know less than nothing about topography and geology and similar geographical fields.


I'm not an expert, but a 25cm in the axis may not impact weather too much. The Earth's axis wobbles over the course of thousands of years already as part of its Milankovich Cycles
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Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is.

Hey man he's just saying what everyone is thinking
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Certainly not what I'm thinking.
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Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is.
:psyduck: Even on its own terms (money is more important than people), that guy's remark was pretty stupid. For him "economic impact" apparently means "the Dow didn't crash".
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My housemate's family is in Tokyo, and I haven't seen her because she has been gone for spring break. I hope they are all ok.
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Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is.
:psyduck: Even on its own terms (money is more important than people), that guy's remark was pretty stupid. For him "economic impact" apparently means "the Dow didn't crash".
I think what we're all thinking is: 'is my stock portfolio ok'?
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God... I didn't realise how many houses were completely demolished.
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I know what you mean, Riz. I can't spend too long looking at this stuff because I might actually start crying, and I have papers to write.
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It's sorta put things in perspective for us down here in NZ.  While things in Christchurch are bad enough, it's certainly not as devastatingly bad as is is in Japan right now.
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I think we should take their example for how to prepare for and handle crises, though. They haven't asked for money, and all the building damage was caused by the tsunami, not the earthquake. I am pretty sure California would not be able to say the same, if they were in the same situation.
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I'm fairly certain that the building codes in California are reasonably strict with regards to seismic activity.
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It took me several seconds to realise you didn't mean door codes there.

The idea of earthquakes seems completely and utterly alien to me. And it isn't just earthquakes but tsunamis, tornados, all the extreme natural disasters that you guys get and Western Europe has managed to avoid through lucky placement. I am very grateful that this is the case, but also I wish they had been shared out a little more evenly so we could all cope with a few strong winds and a bit of roof-shaking instead of these blitzes of destruction. I feel a little bit useless at not being able to do anything to help.
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Yeah, in all honesty California is pretty well built to handle earthquakes for the most part. The clean up, search and rescue and such I'm not so sure about, especially with their budget being the way it is. FEMA would depend entirely on if they got another dumb fuck in charge.

Natural disasters are kinda terrifying in general and I'm still amazed at how well Japan is handling this. This is right up there with how incredibly efficient China was in dealing with the earthquake they had.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that, when I get home and watch this, I will be very disappointed.
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