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Someone please explain why you people like this so much. I don't get it. :psyduck:
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #1 on: 12 Apr 2011, 02:19 »

Agreement.

They strike me as the indie equivalent of Converge or the Locust?
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #2 on: 12 Apr 2011, 03:46 »

I have no idea why I like them, I just do.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #3 on: 12 Apr 2011, 03:53 »

My condolences to your ears.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #4 on: 12 Apr 2011, 07:16 »

I just think that people like them because People like them, y'know?
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #5 on: 12 Apr 2011, 08:14 »

Can't speak for others, but I really enjoy how different Deerhoof from most bands in their eclectic sense of how music works.  They switch keys constantly, their songs are schizophrenically mutable structurally, and Greg Saunier can play the fuck out of a drumset.  They are sort of a hybrid child of art-rock and progressive rock, which I like despite not having a very developed taste for prog.

Honestly, most peoples' problem with the band seems to be the Japanese bird at the microphone, which is pretty much understandable.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #6 on: 12 Apr 2011, 08:28 »

I am not into Deerhoof, but I do really like one of their songs.

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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #7 on: 12 Apr 2011, 09:16 »

Deerhoof are great. One of the best bands out there.

It's okay that you don't get it. Sometimes amazing things happen and you won't get it. We'll all be okay though.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #8 on: 12 Apr 2011, 09:55 »

My condolences to your ears.
Yeah well that's just your opinion man
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #9 on: 12 Apr 2011, 10:47 »

The problem that Deerhoof have is that they're around right now, making great music as they have been for roughly seventeen years. If somebody says that they "don't get" The Velvet Underground, The Fall, Sonic Youth, Blonde Redhead or whoever it's fairly obvious that the person listening just hasn't put the time in or just plain has Incorrect Musical Taste, which is fine. It's alright to like whatever you like. However, if you want to argue that White Light/White Heat or Confusion is Sex is just noise and you "don't get" it, you have to face up to the possibility that if many, many people are still listening to it decades later, there might be something to it which you just haven't realised yet because of surface prejudice. Oh no, there's a Japanese woman in the band and as we know from the internet, Asian culture is shallow and cutesy. Oh no, they had Pitchfork buzz for about five minutes because they're genuinely nice people creating sophisticated avant garde pop music. Oh no, they have an animal in their name, despite that fact that they formed over a decade before this became a convention of sorts. All of this is just the bad luck of poor timing.

In a couple of decades when people are still freaking out about Deerhoof, you can still claim that you "don't get" it or you can erase your preconceived notions and spend some quality time with their existing records. These albums are superb, it's not a coincidence that the people who can see this like or create other great timeless music.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #10 on: 12 Apr 2011, 11:13 »

Agreement.

They strike me as the indie equivalent of Converge or the Locust?

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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #11 on: 12 Apr 2011, 11:33 »

quit giving a shit about deerhoof! everyone! pick some band like the dirty projectors or radiohead or animal collective, another band we've already complained about to death like this one! ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE DIVISIVE/P BORING at least whine re: something new or something you've not whined about in a while


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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #12 on: 12 Apr 2011, 11:34 »

Deerhoof are a pretty badass band until that woman opens her mouth.

The fact that they choose to make an otherwise great band terrible purposely is the reason I hate them with every ounce of my being.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #13 on: 12 Apr 2011, 11:49 »

Deerhoof are a pretty badass band until that woman opens her mouth.

Deerhoof detractors - this is your kin.

Think about this.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #14 on: 12 Apr 2011, 11:50 »

i still don't understand the hate on satomi though. they're not making their music "purposely terrible" it's just like she's the one who sings, i mean sometimes greg sings and it's kind of weird but like those are just the songs they want to make? and that's just her voice? it's not even grating or unpleasant or anything she's just tiny and japanese. like fuck.

also i really don't care about hating on OR praising deerhoof anymore why does this have to come up all the time
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #15 on: 12 Apr 2011, 12:02 »

Also: This band is nowhere near popular enough where you are likely to be in a situation not of your own choosing where you have to listen to Deerhoof music! I don't like this band at all, but that is OK because I just don't listen to them. The whole hate thing was a slightly amusing meme for a while, like the flipside of "Funhouse, man" or Spiderland or something but it's been years since that was true.

Really it's just distracting our energies from hating on bands that are far more worthy of that hate. Guys, I heard a Wavves song the other day, what the fuck is going on with that bullshit.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #16 on: 12 Apr 2011, 12:29 »

i still don't understand the hate on satomi though.

Yeah but you're also a small Asian girl so fuck you and your insignificant opinions.

They should replace her with Henry Rollins or Ben Weasel. Get a real man in there, none of this feeble female bullshit.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #17 on: 12 Apr 2011, 12:50 »

Deerhoof on the radio

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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #18 on: 12 Apr 2011, 12:59 »

guys deerhoof are an entirely forgettable band, we can seriously stop talking about them now
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #19 on: 12 Apr 2011, 13:07 »

No seriously can me make this a thread about how horrendously Wavves blows please

They should replace her with Henry Rollins or Ben Weasel. Get a real man in there, none of this feeble female bullshit.

Aside from how literally no one in the thread said anything resembling this, I can't quite get over the correlation of Ben Weasel to "real man". I see what you were trying to go for there, the reference, but Ben Weasel is a skinny bitch person.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #20 on: 12 Apr 2011, 13:52 »

How can you say that? Look at him go!
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #21 on: 12 Apr 2011, 13:57 »

i still don't understand the hate on satomi though.

Yeah but you're also a small Asian girl so fuck you and your insignificant opinions.

I like when Wata sings for Boris, but then again her voice doesn't remind me of cats fucking each other.

ps: Dovey dude seriously, fuck wavves.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #22 on: 12 Apr 2011, 13:58 »

Also, yes my statement is deliberately absurd but it's also representative of the same old bullshit which people say as to why they don't like Deerhoof. Put a Caucasian dude and some vaguely sociopathic lyrics about how women are evil harlots and the kids would be all over this band. You can tell in the language which people use what they subconsciously mean.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #23 on: 12 Apr 2011, 13:58 »

Also: Deerhoof on the radio? Where can I find radio stations like that here?

I had to import Deerhoof vs Evil from the US because England doesn't really like good music of late. Apparently Beady Eye and the very much anticipated third Subways album is all we care about. Oh, and something about Bloc Party reforming.

Stop the hate on Deerhoof, implement hate on Beady Eye/Oasis.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #24 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:15 »

I like when Wata sings for Boris, but then again her voice doesn't remind me of cats fucking each other.

Satomi's voice is melodically pitch perfect so this is a bullshit argument. Also, she's a brilliant songwriter, musician and lyricist but none of that seems to matter because it's more important to denigrate her importance.

The thing is, I am completely okay with people liking their fistpump brocore and overly melodramatic drama student nonsense rather than Deerhoof but it irks me the way we always have to have threads and thread tangents about how people "don't get it" and it's always a couple of posts before someone mentions that the fault is Satomi, who happens to be the only female and happens to be Asian. People seem adamant to point out near enough immediately that one of the things which distinguishes them from the brocore bands and bland mainstreamo is coincidentally the very thing which makes them unpalatable to that audience.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #25 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:17 »

TOMMY I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ASIAN FEMALES.

I just DO NOT like her voice, which in turn means I do not like her band. If Greg sang on all the songs, I would fucking LOVE them, probably.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #26 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:21 »

as a huge fan of Deerhoof, i have to admit that the singer is easily my least favorite part of the group. I mean...that band....they fucking rule....those guys make some of the coolest fucking music i've ever heard.....and then the lady starts shrieking and sometimes it works for me and sometimes it doesn't

it really is kind of a shame because deerhoof's drummer is one of my favorite drummers, like, ever. And that guitar guy is no slouch either.


still love deerhoof though..... it's just that sometimes, just sometimes, i find myself wishing they were an instrumental band
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #27 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:23 »

I just DO NOT like her voice, which in turn means I do not like her band. If Greg sang on all the songs, I would fucking LOVE them, probably.

This is exactly what I just said.

Replace Satomi with a white dude and things are all good?

They'd be lesser for doing so.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #28 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:28 »

maybe i AM biased being a tiny asian girl but god i don't even understand like what are you guys listening to? satomi's singing voice is SO fucking gentle. what are these "shrieks" and "cats" you are referring to, idgi

can someone just post the MBV cover because it's so nice and invalidates that argument completely
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #29 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:28 »

and then the lady starts shrieking

This is incorrect. Even in the early days when she was literally screaming (and I genuinely doubt that people have even heard those early records) it was very deliberate vocalisation. If you listen to all the records since Reveille, you will notice that for the most part she's very precisely hitting specific notes with every syllable and phrasing. It's a very subtle but significant part of the music and often creates a unique melodic counterpart to the tune of the instrumentation. It's deeply ironic when people say that Satomi is abrasive, she's literally the most melodic aspect of the band.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #30 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:31 »

watch me, i'm gonna make a deerhoof ripoff song and if deerhoof haters like it then please allow me to say Fuck All Of You (it will suck anyway i can't be deerhoof by myself.)
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« Reply #31 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:33 »

Tommy, I think you need to get your ears checked. Or at least use some q-tips or something.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #32 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:36 »

watch me, i'm gonna make a deerhoof ripoff song and if deerhoof haters like it then please allow me to say Fuck All Of You (it will suck anyway i can't be deerhoof by myself.)

I'll join. Gimme a bit to learn drums/move to California.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #33 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:39 »

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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #35 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:40 »

i can actually get not liking satomi's voice but yeah tommy's right there are some like seriously false things being said here & they're ridiculous & besides that who on here is going to front like they don't like abrasive vocals anyways
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« Reply #36 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:42 »

Tommy, I think you need to get your ears checked. Or at least use some q-tips or something.

Trust me, as somebody who has spent their entire mature life listening to a band, I am a little bit more savvy about them than somebody who once heard a fraction of their discography for a minute or so.
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« Reply #37 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:44 »

Replace Satomi with a white dude and things are all good?

They'd be lesser for doing so.

Would you stop nitpicking, Tommy? I wouldn't care if they replaced her with Tiger Woods, or a transgenered Zimbabwean, or a Canadian girl or whatever. The fact that she is an Asian woman has absolutely no input to why I don't like the band.

And yeah, I've only heard a few songs, but I'm not going to go out of my way to force myself to like something if I'm not impressed after a few tracks. I tried that with Animal Collective and it made me want to do grevious bodily harm to people.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #38 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:47 »

so shane doesn't like the band, we do, are we done here
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« Reply #39 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:48 »

Precisely.

Also, Dovey's previous point of man, fuck Wavves.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #40 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:51 »

Oh, michael, for sure!!!!!!!!!!!

also yeah man this lady's voice is so horrible i don't see how you guys can listen to this ughhhhh

Now I am watching videos of them doing Joy Division covers with Jamie Stewart. Awesome!
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #41 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:53 »

Can I join in on the Wavves hate? That twat doesn't deserve Jay Reatard's old band

but regarding Deerhoof, I think they're pretty alright! I've only listened Friend Opportunity and Offend Maggie a few times but I liked what I heard. Not music I listen to on the regular but this thread has inspired me to give 'em another go
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #42 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:54 »

The fact that she is an Asian woman has absolutely no input to why I don't like the band.

Right, she's your only problem with the band but it's nothing to do with anything about her at all. Aside from the stuff you made up about her not being able to sing etc. Bizarre!

Believe me, nobody is more sick of you talking about Deerhoof in a deeply conceited and utterly ignorant manner than me so please do us a favour and never mention them again. Thanks.
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« Reply #43 on: 12 Apr 2011, 14:55 »

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« Reply #44 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:11 »



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« Reply #45 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:18 »

Get a real man in there, none of this feeble female bullshit.
Finally somebody standing up for punk rock music
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #46 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:22 »

If I might make some note on a subject in here, I find it hilarious that after the whole Ben Weasel thing, not only did EVERY band cancel out of the 20th anniversary weekend/festival thing they were having, but the rest of the band quit on him as well. Bottom. Drops. Out.

Apparently said bands have hopped on board for another Chicago-based festival happening around the same time (Memorial Dayish?)
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #47 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:22 »

disclaimer that I know that was a sarcastic post but it's the sort of thing that a good chunk of people probably feel, as has been said

what does everyone in this thread think about ponytail or women
I got one of the Ponytail guys' solo guitar albums on casette. I liked it!

As for Women, who needs em am I right fellas?!

Anna real talk I would probably like you slightly less if you were a giant aryan with like a thing for tigers or something. You're pretty good the way you are.
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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #48 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:27 »

Deerhoof are being given a shit about? (Also, that is totally a coherent sentence)

Can someone enlighten me as to what make them fun to listen to? I usually see listening to music as a pleasurable experience, but this band just grates on me so much. Granted I've only actively listened to two (or three?) of their songs. I know people have different tastes, but god-dang. that is some ugly music.

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Re: Okay, so I just heard a Deerhoof song on the Radio..
« Reply #49 on: 12 Apr 2011, 15:29 »

Have at it, Tommy.
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