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"Did you know Dora's got a date on Friday?"

1 (3.4%)

Some gentle advice?

1 (3.4%)

Being bitter isn't goinna make you feel any better

1 (3.4%)

Wait, that actually WORKED?

11 (37.9%)

"Good luck"? You're not gonna try to dissuade me?

0 (0%)

It's your life. Do what you want.

1 (3.4%)

You're being reasonable. That makes me nervous.

2 (6.9%)

Rockin' the little black dress!

1 (3.4%)

The rest of you is too distracting.

0 (0%)

Steady stream of compliments or I get cranky.

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He turns 41 in July (not old enough to be her dad)

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Okay, maybe a "little" bit of dirty old man.

4 (13.8%)

Scary Go Round Guest Strip!

7 (24.1%)

Total Members Voted: 27

[jwhouk]

And here ya go.

[TheEvilDog]

I'm kinda hoping for the dinner date, but I've a feeling we might see a mix of the party and the date. I've also got a feeling that Raven won't be welcome at the party if she turns up, especially if Tai sees her.

[NotAwesomeAnymore]

"Ugh, it's that total bitch who gave me the bad news that my crush had a date with someone else. She should have KNOWN how in love I was with Dora!"

[Border Reiver]

Although all of them would be decent, I kind of dread the thought of Pintsize modding anything.

[idontunderstand]

I'm hoping for Marten to become.. laid.

[iduguphergrave]

*high five*

Also, I love your icon 

[Welu]

I would enjoy seeing all of the choices.

[LeeC]

I'd like to see the date and how Dora deals with things.  Whether she breaks down or acts like nothing has happened, or to try to hate marten will speak volumes on how she is really dealing with the breakup as she really hasnt said much after the break up.

[TheEvilDog]

as she really hasnt said much after the break up.

In more ways than one, in the 50 comics after the breakup, Dora appeared in 8 comics (9 if you count her cowering under the counter when Veronica showed up), the 50 after that we saw her 8 times (Not counting Randy Mulholland's guest strip). And in the 50 leading up to 1950 she made 15 appearances. 31 appearances, granted some were single panels. Compare that to Marten or Faye, who have both appeared in (conservative guess, coz its 3:15am and I'm not counting again!) about 80 comics each.

So either Jeph is knocking Dora to a second tier character, or showing her less to stop it from becoming "the Dora Show".

[Method of Madness]

I'm thinking the date will be the not so big one.  Even if the party isn't huge for Marten or Tai, it'll still probably be a pretty big affair.

[iduguphergrave]

This comic is, in all sense of the word...... Bittersweet.

[akronnick]

Don't do it Marten!

Faye without her bitterness might actually be more dangerous!




*edit: added the word 'more' per Cold's post below*

[Is it cold in here?]

She's not dangerous now?

[HeadphonesJeff]

as she really hasnt said much after the break up.

In more ways than one, in the 50 comics after the breakup, Dora appeared in 8 comics (9 if you count her cowering under the counter when Veronica showed up), the 50 after that we saw her 8 times (Not counting Randy Mulholland's guest strip). And in the 50 leading up to 1950 she made 15 appearances. 31 appearances, granted some were single panels. Compare that to Marten or Faye, who have both appeared in (conservative guess, coz its 3:15am and I'm not counting again!) about 80 comics each.

So either Jeph is knocking Dora to a second tier character, or showing her less to stop it from becoming "the Dora Show".

It wasn't until you pointed out Dora's declining appearances that I realized that Marten and Dora haven't even been in the same strip once since they split up.  As far as I can tell they haven't seen each other or spoken since the break-up. That might make hearing about her impending date just a little extra painful for poor Marty.  It's not like he hasn't tried to see her again, she just wasn't at the shop when he went in.

[akronnick]

She's not dangerous now?

Good point, editing post.

[Sorflakne]

'Buttpoop'?  What other kind of poop is there?

[Blackjoker]

'Buttpoop'?  What other kind of poop is there?

Probably best not to think about it.

[Coffee_Kaioken]

It was nice to see an old fashioned style strip with Marten and Faye on the couch again! And this was kind of a nice moment in itself, I like it!

[Carl-E]

'Buttpoop'?  What other kind of poop is there?

Probably best not to think about it.

Damn you! 



Colostomy bag. 

[NotAwesomeAnymore]

Wait just a minute... Bitter about what? I figured Faye could've been talking about some unknown incident in the past, or Sven, or her-falling-out-with-Marten-and-then-his-dating-Dora. I find it very weird that Faye and Marten have started talking about their past since Marten became single (drunken incident, "We would have been a terrible couple") and if Faye is STILL bitter about what Marten did and talking to him about it, it seems like an uncomfortable rekindling of intimacy.

Alternatively, maybe Jeph just wants to give everyone some closure safely since he sank the ship.

[akronnick]

Why would Faye's bitterness have anything to do with Marten.

She just said she was bitter, she didn't say it was about him.

[pwhodges]

I presumed it was still about her father.  Possibly Sven, I suppose, but she was shown as disappointed over that, not bitter.

[snubnose]

Hmmm how funny - theres actually people who are looking forward to Doras date ?

I would be much more interested in Marigolds battles with Dave.

[akronnick]

From 1799-1951, all characters with 10+ appearances (including voices off): Marten 75, Faye 63, Hanners 55, Dora 32, Padma 22, Tai 20, Angus 19, Marten's mother 18, Pintsize/Steve 13, Marigold/Elliott 12.

OTOH since 1910: Faye 22, Dora 15, Marten/Hanners 11.

Very interesting....

This seems to suggest that Marten is becoming the main focus of the story, with Dora becoming more important again more recently. Faye shows up because she's most likely to interact with both Marten and Dora, likewise wih Hanners.

[daryljfontaine]

'Buttpoop'?  What other kind of poop is there?

You obviously aren't familiar with Pintsize's Twitter feed.

D

[snubnose]

Hmmm how funny - theres actually people who are looking forward to Doras date ?

I would be much more interested in Marigolds battles with Dave.

I guess you mean Dale, but Marigold and Dave would be good too. "Why can't I be stalked by someone with visible eyes?"

Oops yeah, Dale of course. Sorry.

[Method of Madness]

Marten's in less than half of all strips?  Crazy, I never would've realized that.

[mike837go]

'Buttpoop'?  What other kind of poop is there?

One of Faye's T-shirts simply says "CUMP".

Check the Urban Dictionary for that word and you'll soon discover what other kind of butt-stuff there is.

[pwhodges]

Marten's in less than half of all strips?  Crazy, I never would've realized that.

In the specified ranges.  Overall is different.

[Welu]

I wasn't sure what to think of Faye's saying she's bitter. I think it's a mix of all the sucky things that's happened and leaves a general bitterness rather than it being about a specific thing.

I repeat it's nice to have a simple Marten and Faye chatting on the sofa strip. Bit of nostalgia for the old strips.

[jwhouk]

It wasn't until you pointed out Dora's declining appearances that I realized that Marten and Dora haven't even been in the same strip once since they split up.  As far as I can tell they haven't seen each other or spoken since the break-up.

Yes they were, but it was because Dora sensed "a great disturbance in the Force" (not really).

[TheEvilDog]

It wasn't until you pointed out Dora's declining appearances that I realized that Marten and Dora haven't even been in the same strip once since they split up.  As far as I can tell they haven't seen each other or spoken since the break-up.

Yes they were, but it was because Dora sensed "a great disturbance in the Force" (not really).

Ok, they weren't in the same panel of a comic together. Happy?

[mike837go]

It wasn't until you pointed out Dora's declining appearances that I realized that Marten and Dora haven't even been in the same strip once since they split up.  As far as I can tell they haven't seen each other or spoken since the break-up.

Yes they were, but it was because Dora sensed "a great disturbance in the Force" (not really).

Ok, they weren't in the same panel of a comic together. Happy?

Marten and Dora have always had a connection.

[TheEvilDog]

Marten and Dora have always had a connection.

One might say that connection has long since been cut.

[celticgeek]

Don't do it Marten!

Faye without her bitterness might actually be more dangerous!

*edit: added the word 'more' per Cold's post below*

Faye:  NOT mostly harmless.

[Black Sword]

Am I the only one who would prefer to see Marten actually be bitter and upset about this? Not because I want to hurt the character, but because it's a development away from the manatee on codeine?

[pwhodges]

Like just last week?  After all, character development is being able to move beyond that, as in today's comic. 

And actually, why should he be bitter at this point?  He was around the breakup, but that concerned his relationship.  Dora having a date pushes home the break a little further (which is upsetting for a brief while), but it doesn't change anything at all for him unless he is still hoping to get back together - which I see no sign of.  I'm still sad  about my divorce 19 years ago, but I was only bitter  about it for perhaps six months (after a 22 year marriage - I wouldn't expect Marten's upset to last as long).

[Method of Madness]

Marten's in less than half of all strips?  Crazy, I never would've realized that.

In the specified ranges.  Overall is different.

Interesting.  That's still considerably less than I would've guessed, I would've figured 2/3-3/4 at least, and I'm a little surprised to see Faye outrank Marten, but I guess it makes sense.

[Tiogyr]

Am I the only one who would prefer to see Marten actually be bitter and upset about this? Not because I want to hurt the character, but because it's a development away from the manatee on codeine?

That would actually be very little development at all. I'll grant you that it was a bit too sudden a switch between the panel where he's moping a little and the panel where he's smiling, but then again, what's to say Marten isn't just putting on a face for Faye at the moment and is planning to vent a little when he's alone in his room?

[TheEvilDog]

I guess at this stage, we all realise that Marten is a type B.

[Schmorgluck]

Teehee, looks like I've grown some immunity to TVTropes: I only rapidly checked out type B (well, I checked the various types for comparison) on the page then closed it right away. I'm proud.

I don't quite agree, though. I'm in the impression that Marten is quite able to force himself into a relatively serene state, with the prospect of making it genuine in the long run, through some kind of autosuggestion. We've seen him doing it before, like when he reacted to Faye having told right away to Angus the story about her father's suicide. He was upset at first, but overcame it for the sake of Faye. I don't think he simply had changed feelings based on Faye's explanations, said explanations rather gave him leverage to set aside his initial emotions as irrational, and view the situation more positively. So, it's a bit of a facade, but there's more to it.

Have none of you ever forced a smile on your face, only to find out it actually made you feel better? Granted, it doesn't work everytime (and neither does Marten always pull it out successfully), but it can work for realz.

[Cybit]

Teehee, looks like I've grown some immunity to TVTropes: I only rapidly checked out type B (well, I checked the various types for comparison) on the page then closed it right away. I'm proud.

I don't quite agree, though. I'm in the impression that Marten is quite able to force himself into a relatively serene state, with the prospect of making it genuine in the long run, through some kind of autosuggestion. We've seen him doing it before, like when he reacted to Faye having told right away to Angus the story about her father's suicide. He was upset at first, but overcame it for the sake of Faye. I don't think he simply had changed feelings based on Faye's explanations, said explanations rather gave him leverage to set aside his initial emotions as irrational, and view the situation more positively. So, it's a bit of a facade, but there's more to it.

Have none of you ever forced a smile on your face, only to find out it actually made you feel better? Granted, it doesn't work everytime (and neither does Marten always pull it out successfully), but it can work for realz.

I'm doing this currently in my own life with a situation with a lady friend (one of my best friends except we have feelings for each other, insert bad soap opera stuff here where she is too scared to see where it goes, etc etc), and I'll be darned, but it works pretty effectively.  The situation, when I think about it, kills me slowly inside, but I just try to think of other stuff and force myself into serenity, and then let time work its magic. 

[Kugai]

I wouldn't if I were you Marten

She'll only break your shoulder.

[Blood-Tree]

Marten's in less than half of all strips?  Crazy, I never would've realized that.

In the specified ranges.  Overall is different.

Wow... this is really illuminating:

• Faye is the all time leading points scorer
• Pizza Girl only has 4 appearances and Jimbo only has 12, whereas Lydia has 18 and Ellen has 62
• The number of Pintsize appearances per 500 strips has dropped from 120 to 38
• Penelope, Tai and Marigold combined have fewer appearances that Hanners

I had always assumed that the central character was Marten but actually QC is really a duopoly.

All my preconceptions have been defeated.

By Math.

[pwhodges]

Lots of good stuff in the wiki - though, like in many wikis, you do have to poke around to find some of it.

[Akima]

I'm in the impression that Marten is quite able to force himself into a relatively serene state, with the prospect of making it genuine in the long run, through some kind of autosuggestion.

Aren't we all? Though some of us call our practice something else.   It is nice to see a classic QC "Faye & Marten on the sofa" strip, and Faye's cheerful subversion of her own advice made me giggle.

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The girl in the photograph is not me.

[Border Reiver]

Somehow Akima - I don't think of you as silly enough to put a picture of yourself up in this forum.

[TheEvilDog]

She kinda looks like Ming-Na.

[ChicagoTed]

I just want to say I really like the title of today's comic.  Made me smile.

[jwhouk]

...For those of us who have little Indie cred, what is it a reference to?