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What was the MOMENT OF THE WEEK?

Good morning Faye! I made some coffee...
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SLUUUURRP (right from the pot)
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Is CoD hiring?
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"Tragic accident" (This stuff BETTER not be poisoned)
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Momo at the library! Are you hiring?
- 1 (1.9%)
"I've got free reign."
- 1 (1.9%)
"Is that something you are supposed to put on your resume?"
- 5 (9.3%)
Winslow brought Momo those samples...
- 1 (1.9%)
There's... there's nothing! Her entire system is blank!
- 1 (1.9%)
Big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
- 7 (13%)
She got a new chassis. (We must burn it. To keep it out of Pintsize's hands.)
- 6 (11.1%)
Hey, mister triple-shot latte.
- 1 (1.9%)
Technically, I'm only 2.7 years old.
- 0 (0%)
You got a robot PREGNANT?
- 17 (31.5%)
Samantha meets Momo!
- 4 (7.4%)
Pokemons 513, 397, 456...
- 1 (1.9%)
Do you REALLY know all that?
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Please. I live with Marigold.
- 5 (9.3%)

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WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« on: 04 Sep 2011, 06:05 »

And yet another week comes upon us - with Monday being the US Holiday, Labor Day.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #1 on: 04 Sep 2011, 06:50 »

There is only one sensible choice here. 


Waffles, anyone? 
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #2 on: 04 Sep 2011, 06:59 »

My money is on the entire week being an extended sequence of Momo cuddling Marigold. When I say 'money' I mean the bribe I paid to Jeph of course.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #3 on: 04 Sep 2011, 07:33 »

Also, this came to mind with the sentient appliances from last week's comics; 

Pintsize on Toasters and other appliances
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #4 on: 04 Sep 2011, 08:58 »

M-hm.  The refrigerator doesn't masturbate in public and that's very relaxing.  I can only agree to that.
Although only on the psychological level, I'm sure this would affect the taste of my beer.  And milk and cheese and kippers and bacon will never be without disturbing sub-context anymore.  Not to mention the pickled beef ...

And mixers shouldn't be allowed to exercise their artistic ambitions.  Never ever!   :-D
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #5 on: 04 Sep 2011, 11:16 »

How is the "pint" in Pintsize pronounced? Like "slint" or "blind"?
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #6 on: 04 Sep 2011, 11:19 »

Pint, as in the unit of volume measurement between a cup and a quart, and sized as in how large.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #7 on: 04 Sep 2011, 11:43 »

That's not helping with pronounciation... I'm guessing, despite the native american avatar, idontunderstand may not be a native english speaker...

It's a long i in pint, like the sound of the word "eye".  So, like blind. 
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #8 on: 04 Sep 2011, 12:04 »

How is the "pint" in Pintsize pronounced? Like "slint" or "blind"?

Carl-E gave you the pronounciation. About the volume, I only think of it as the size of the glass of beer I usually have ("stop" in Swedish). And I am ever so grateful to Scottish & Newcastle for buying out one of the major Finnish breweries as the size of the cans went up from half a liter to the imperial pint (=0.568 liters).
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #9 on: 04 Sep 2011, 12:08 »

Labor Day.
That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?

Also, Skewbrow, lucky!  In the states, the average can/bottle here is 12 fl. oz (0.355 liters).  Of course, bars'll serve you pints, but that's still just under half a liter.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #10 on: 04 Sep 2011, 12:34 »

Yes, I had confusion on my uni engineering course because I got an American book on fluid dynamics - and all the conversion tables were in terms of US fluid measures, not Imperial, so I kept getting different answers from other people.

The US and UK pints (16oz and 20oz) are actually both based on old UK measurements, from the time that these things were not so standardised.

And look, US fluid measurements were one of the earliest uses of binary!

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #11 on: 04 Sep 2011, 12:57 »

Thank you very much, bastards.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #12 on: 04 Sep 2011, 14:23 »

D'awwwwww.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #13 on: 04 Sep 2011, 16:50 »

Labor Day.
That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?

(Eyes like lasers)

I'm a Wisconsin State Employee. I'm a bit touchy about that, thanks.

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #14 on: 04 Sep 2011, 16:51 »

Yes, I had confusion on my uni engineering course because I got an American book on fluid dynamics - and all the conversion tables were in terms of US fluid measures, not Imperial, so I kept getting different answers from other people.

The US and UK pints (16oz and 20oz) are actually both based on old UK measurements, from the time that these things were not so standardised.

And look, US fluid measurements were one of the earliest uses of binary!

(As you see, I've been here before!)

Paul: "mouthful" is actually what is called in baking a "tablespoon".

3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon, 2 tablespoons = 1 ounce.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #15 on: 04 Sep 2011, 16:55 »

Damn, I was hoping people would either get the reference or google it.  It's a Futurama line.

Hermes: Labor Day?  That phony bologna holiday crammed down our throats by fat-cat union gangsters?
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(As a soon-to-be teacher, I'm hardly one to shit on unions)

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A tablespoon is slightly more than a half an ounce, isn't it?
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #16 on: 04 Sep 2011, 17:37 »

According to baker's measures, it is - at least in the US (1 US tablespoon = 0.5 US ounces).
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #17 on: 04 Sep 2011, 18:05 »

(As a soon-to-be teacher, I'm hardly one to shit on unions)
In Indiana, teachers are not required to join unions as a matter of law.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #18 on: 04 Sep 2011, 18:46 »

Before the mods step in, let's just steer away from that...

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #19 on: 04 Sep 2011, 18:56 »

If there's a need, it can go on in Discuss: everyone who's posted has a high enough post count to go there.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #20 on: 04 Sep 2011, 18:58 »

According to baker's measures, it is - at least in the US (1 US tablespoon = 0.5 US ounces).
I thought tablespoons were metric, though, 15 mL to a teaspoon's 5.  Unless those are the approximations.

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #21 on: 04 Sep 2011, 20:57 »

Can the thread title PLEASE be fixed so the last post column on the  forum homepage shows the comic numbers rather than just "Re: Weekly Comics Discus..."?
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #22 on: 05 Sep 2011, 00:35 »

I wish I'd never brought the subject of the thread title up, really.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #23 on: 05 Sep 2011, 00:49 »

hmm, for a long time I though WCDT meant "We can Discuss This"

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #24 on: 05 Sep 2011, 02:43 »

I think that Momo's been spending too much time with Faye and Pintsize.

I hope someone points out to Momo there are plenty of other jobs.

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #25 on: 05 Sep 2011, 02:49 »

Plenty of other jobs? 

Well... maybe if the economy in the QC universe is better then it is in our universe.  Considering I've been searching for well over a year, or was it two.  I've lost count now. 
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #26 on: 05 Sep 2011, 02:50 »

So... which of CoD's employees should Momo challenge to a duel to the death? (None, I'd say. Those girls are badass, and unless the new chassis has Summer Glau-like combat powers she'd stand no chance. Perhaps find out if the SMIF library can use a second assistant...)
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #27 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:06 »

Now Momo, Marigold probably wouldn't be too happy if something...unfortunate happened to Hannelore. Also, it's not smart to make veiled threats towards someone who is accident-prone/extremely unlucky. Now every time Cosette falls while carrying something sharp Faye (and we) will wonder.

Then again, it's pretty much the perfect cover. Everyone will assume it's a tragic accident. Only Faye will suspect...
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #28 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:17 »

Plenty of other jobs?  

Well... maybe if the economy in the QC universe is better then it is in our universe.  Considering I've been searching for well over a year, or was it two.  I've lost count now.

I know, I'm looking myself.  However, there are jobs out there (as my application history can testify).  The trick is persuading the recruiters that you are the person they want to hire.

{edit}One of the things is, I think it's still 2005 or so in the strip?  Jeph could clarify.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #29 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:21 »

I would say that the time is the present, in spite of passing much more slowly than in our universe (this is a paradox we must just accept) - and since it's in a different universe, the job market has no reason to stay the same either.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #30 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:32 »

I think another trick may be to move out of the damned community where the dominant population is elderly, and there is a 20% unemployment rate. 

But anyways, Momo might not have much trouble getting a job.  Machines being much more efficient then humans, never tiring, and never having to eat or for that matter excrete waste.  So there is no need for time wasters such as breaks. In fact!  The QC universe's job market may start to be fully replaced by machines soon!  They will start taking over the world, not violently, but economically.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #31 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:50 »

See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #32 on: 05 Sep 2011, 03:58 »

Momo is going homicidal. That's not gonna bode well.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #33 on: 05 Sep 2011, 04:29 »

Todays comic is very un-momo-tan.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #34 on: 05 Sep 2011, 04:36 »

Is character defined by personality or shape?
On the risk of wandering astray in the wrong thread: When we consider the impact of culture - in other words: The influence of other people on our values, thinking habits, our behaviour - as "programming", we certainly receive a reprogramming from our community when we alter our visual appearance.  What was the point in fashion again?

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #35 on: 05 Sep 2011, 04:50 »

SLRRRP.

Oh well, so much for the easy option. Time to get to searching.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #36 on: 05 Sep 2011, 05:19 »

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It's funny how easily even the hint of a homicidal / aggressive robot triggers the expectation of Blade-Runner-type scenarios.  Cultural conditioning, I suppose.

I'm gonna guess it's practically certain that Momo will either end up at CoD, tSB, or in Deathmole/Marten's band -- just out of narrative necessity. 

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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #37 on: 05 Sep 2011, 05:31 »

See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
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Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.

Though who's to say how that works as an AI? Hard drives are probably a bit more uniform than the biological brain, and the chemical component to biological thinking has probably been removed entirely.

Which of course is not to say that there aren't a host of other factors that would effect the change that would accompany adopting a new form. Quite likely your socialization has led to the associations with certain physical traits and appearances with certain other characteristics. When moving from one form to another these would likely become something that effects how you perceive yourself, which has a well documented track record of in turn effecting the self. In this respect even something like limb replacement could conceivably lead to the creation of new behaviors.

Edit: Crap crap. Gotta tie this back to the comic. So Momo's new behaviors are probably an entirely natural and likely documented part of the process of moving from one chassis to another. She's being a bit more willful which is likely due to her associating size with power to a degree, and potentially sees herself as a more equal or standard member of society now that she looks more like a person. If I were to take a wild guess. At the very least it is evident that she's much more comfortable operating on the social level of a the rest of the cast now.

Does this make her a new character? I wouldn't think so. Characters aren't meant to be static beings. I'd personally categorize it with character development or possibly just the variance that one can expect of the same character in multiple situations and scenarios. Often a character will lead one life in times of war, but display no predisposition for it in a peaceful scenario for example. Dora's sass levels have been shown to fluctuate depending on her current hair. Same general category. Seeing a new side of the same person as opposed to the birthing of a new person using the old as a framework.

I'm loving new Momo's moodier faces. Any bets on where she'll end up working? There's that bakery, but I can't really think of any established locations that would have us visiting her at work terribly frequently.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #38 on: 05 Sep 2011, 05:59 »

See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.

Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.

Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?

I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
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Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.

actually, i'd say it's hard to believe you wouldn't. while your memories and experiences remain the same, your hormone and chemical balance would be changed completely. in the short term your moods and emotions would be unpredictable, as they interact with your established memories you may find you feel very different about some key experiences in your life. and that's assuming you jumped into a statistically normal body, can you imagine suddenly finding yourself in a body with a severe chemical or hormone imbalance?

in the longer term the physiological change would probably even out, but then there's the change in personal experience. if you look different people will treat you differently, and if you have a different body type it will change the way you interact with the world. and again, that's assuming you don't end up in the body of a world class athlete. or the body of a cripple.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #39 on: 05 Sep 2011, 06:43 »

Heck, just teh point of view that she now sees the world from (much taller) will make a difference in how she percieves herself and interacts with others! 

On the job front, Momo could  pull a Wil - get a job at a less-frequented establishment, effectively disappearing from the comic for long stretches of time, only to reappear and complain about work (but with a decidedly Momo-tan positive spin). 

With her socila protocol database, she's more likely to go into the service industry.  Maybe even work from home in customer service? 

I know, how about Robo-calling?   :laugh:
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #40 on: 05 Sep 2011, 07:01 »

Why am I not surprised that Faye drank straight from the coffee pot? Stay classy, Faye.

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right? Like, The Secret Bakery or SMIF's library or the bar where Wil works or something else. Better hit the job search sites, good ma'am. You may just find something that fits you perfectly.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #42 on: 05 Sep 2011, 07:42 »


Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #43 on: 05 Sep 2011, 07:47 »

Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?
Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?
Not quite sure. I think there may be, but I'm blanking on that at the moment.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #44 on: 05 Sep 2011, 08:09 »

I'm sure that manager filled any openings. 


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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #45 on: 05 Sep 2011, 08:17 »

Talking about physical change and psychology, I just remembered something that may be relevant:

I remember an interview on the radio with someone who studied medieval literature (I think that's what she did).  She commented that her first horse riding lesson was a revelation to her.  When you're on a horse your head is physically higher than those on foot.  She realised that the change in perspective would also effect how people saw things in a broader sense.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #46 on: 05 Sep 2011, 08:25 »


Also...Momo, you know there are more places than just Coffee of Doom to work, right?

Is there still an opening at the bookstore where Penny used to work?

And let her get ogled by a creepy manager? Ew...
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #47 on: 05 Sep 2011, 08:25 »

One of the interesting things about today's comic is it puts to rest the argument of "Momo is selfish for not getting a job", since she clearly still wants one and is trying to get one.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #48 on: 05 Sep 2011, 09:35 »

I have to agree that the line about tragic accidents was out of character, though it certainly was funny.
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Re: WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
« Reply #49 on: 05 Sep 2011, 10:04 »

Man, I'm loving new Momo more and more with every comic.
And y'know, I see people saying the way she's been acting is un-momo. Well, has anyone ever thought maybe this is more Momo then she's ever been? I mean now she has nothing to fear, she's big, but before if she said things like this she was at their mercy she was so small.
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