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Kinky porn star Madison Young (googling her would definitely be NSFW) is a new mother and planning what to tell her child as the child matures. I found out about this in a Salon interview with Madison Young. The interview contains nothing graphic.

Did Ms. Reed handle it by total immersion? Marten looked pretty young in the pictures with the dildo and the "My mommy spanks people" shirt. I'd hate to think she didn't go for age-appropriate explanations, whatever those would consist of. I guess she could have said that she's so pretty people pay to take pictures of her, and that she plays tie-up games.

Whatever she did, it seems to have been OK for Marten.
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I always got the opposite response, that Marten somewhat resents his mother and is embarrassed by the whole thing.  He also acts like he endured a bunch of kids talking about his mom is a MILF, they saw her videos, etc.

There's no easy way to handle it.  I guess you could say she handled it well because they still communicate, but don't forget he lives nowhere near her which probably helps the relationship.
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I think the only thing about the whole thing that really bothers Marten is the knowledge that so many people think of his Mother (and have been with her) in sexual ways. It directly clashes with the natural "talk about my mom like that and I'll break your face" instinct. He doesn't seem to be terribly embarrassed or ashamed about her occupation in general; he didn't hesitate to tell Faye, and after he could tell Dora's dad was cool he even told him about it (even if he regretted it afterwards). She embarrassed him pretty bad on her last visit, but mostly in typical "mother" ways (the goatse incident notwithstanding).

My mom first told me about sex when I first asked, when I was around 5. She told me with most if not all details, and of course since I was so young I pretty much forgot by next year. So I asked again, and she told me again. Over and over until I finally got it; by the time we learned it in school I already knew most of the stuff the teachers was telling us. Sometimes it pays to be honest with young kids; we shouldn't underestimate their minds.
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IIRC, Dora mentioned that Marten views sex in "utilitarian" terms. And cue Marten doing shibari to Tai.
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IIRC, Dora mentioned that Marten views sex in "utilitarian" terms. And cue Marten doing shibari to Tai.

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I always got the opposite response, that Marten somewhat resents his mother and is embarrassed by the whole thing.  He also acts like he endured a bunch of kids talking about his mom is a MILF, they saw her videos, etc.
Hmm... Maybe, but then there is what Marten actually said about it. It doesn't sound as if his mother's work was widely known in his local community. Possibly the kids at his bondage-gear show-and-tell were too young to make the connection. I have no idea where show-and-tells feature in the American school curriculum, but I'm thinking pretty junior.
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Show and Tell is usually something done between Kindergarten (5 years of age) to grade 3 (8 years), so yeah, it is a bit young to be bringing bondage gear to school.

If, as some have posited around here in the past, Marten is from Northern California, then something like this might indicate that they lived in one of the outlying sections of the (San Francisco) Bay Area - like, say, Salinas, San Jose, or even Palo Alto.

Or, of course, if Jeph REALLY wanted to mess with our minds: Sunnyvale.

EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that it's not the real name of the city in BTVS, but think of the implications!
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IIRC, Dora mentioned that Marten views sex in "utilitarian" terms. And cue Marten doing shibari to Tai.
I though she was saying he views bondage in "utilitarian" terms.

I mean, what he's next seen making use of, is his bondage skills, not his sex ...
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Is "telling off your adult son as if he were a child, in front of his friends" typical "mother" behaviour? I know my mother wouldn't do that (and she wouldn't get the pathetic reaction that Marten's mother got if she did).

Uh, actually I think it is. I wouldn't put it past a lot of mothers to chide their kids in front of their friends no matter what age the kid is; parents often always see their children as children. The reason your mother probably wouldn't do that to you is because of what you said in parenthesis. You're obviously very different from Marten.
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Is "telling off your adult son as if he were a child, in front of his friends" typical "mother" behaviour? I know my mother wouldn't do that (and she wouldn't get the pathetic reaction that Marten's mother got if she did).

Uh, actually I think it is. I wouldn't put it past a lot of mothers to chide their kids in front of their friends no matter what age the kid is; parents often always see their children as children. The reason your mother probably wouldn't do that to you is because of what you said in parenthesis. You're obviously very different from Marten.

As a parent, I know that you never  lose the desire to correct your children.  We mean well, we only want to help. 

It takes a lot to suppress that reaction.  Sometimes the only lessons learned are those learned first-hand. 

Obviously, Andy147 has trained his mother well! 
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #10 on: 14 Nov 2011, 08:01 »

Always thought it was kinda icky how Dora lusted after Marten's mom. I mean, okay, she did it before they were dating, but once they were dating, she honestly could have just kept it to herself. "Your mom helped me figure out I liked girls" No, Dora. No. *shakes head*
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #11 on: 14 Nov 2011, 09:01 »

Especially since it bothered Marten to hear about it.
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #12 on: 14 Nov 2011, 09:58 »

Although to be accurate, she had no idea it would upset him until it was already out. 

After  that, right, the topic should be off-limits. 
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #13 on: 14 Nov 2011, 10:17 »

Of course; Dora couldn't possibly have known that hearing about how his mother really turns her crank would make Marten uncomfortable; who would've thought? /sarcasm
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #14 on: 14 Nov 2011, 10:58 »

Don't know how much Dora knew about previous conversations Marten-Faye, but Marten had indicated to Faye his mom's livelihood was more or less just a thing, y'know ... not that boundaries meant much to Dora, before or during her relationship with Marten.
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #15 on: 15 Nov 2011, 07:16 »


Of course; Dora couldn't possibly have known that hearing about how his mother really turns her crank would make Marten uncomfortable; who would've thought? /sarcasm

Indeed... who'd have thought that referring to pictures of "his mother with a bullwhip in her..." would be one of Marten's no-nos?

Dora, in my opinion, isn't the most sensitive or bright of the characters, I dislike her maybe a little less than I dislike Faye, so not terribly surprising.
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #16 on: 15 Nov 2011, 09:35 »

I was at one point convinced I was like Dora. Very dark time.
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #17 on: 15 Nov 2011, 11:10 »

To be honest, I don't find Dora to be all that bad.  She's got some serious issues, one of which is putting herself into a victim's mindset, but she does have a few admirable qualities as well.  One of them is her ability to ignore her insecurities, and plow on ahead anyway!



Not that it always works...
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #18 on: 15 Nov 2011, 11:52 »

Haha, I do actually quite like Dora. But... She's just not the person you want to identify with. Especially when Faye ran in and was like, "You need therapy!" and I was like, "No I don't!"

I have since learned not to project myself onto the comic, and the person that convinced me I had any of those issues was, in fact, the issue. #TMIsoz But also I think a lot of the Dora hate comes from people who identify more with Marten and feel the need to defend him. Edit: I also think that point has been made  :-P
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Re: What did Veronica Reed tell her youngster about her work?
« Reply #19 on: 15 Nov 2011, 15:29 »

Especially when Faye ran in and was like, "You need therapy!" and I was like, "No I don't!"

Yeeeaaaaaah, definitely not the way you want to identify with her. 

Glad things are (getting) better! 
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