Topic: WCDT: 2201-2205 (4-8 June 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 73822 times)

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #100 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 02:30 »

Quote from: cpflux on 06 Jun 2012, 02:09

Sure, Marten is a bit worried about training three new interns.

But, deep down, dude's thinking, "Three more ladies to add to my harem."

I really don't want this webcomic to turn into some pseudo-harem comedy.

AngryCallCenterAgent · « **Reply #101 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 02:32 »

Dibs on the tall Asian girl with the almond-shaped eyes.

TinPenguin · « **Reply #102 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 03:33 »

First reaction on seeing the third panel: OH MY GOD IT'S HER!!!!!

Second reaction: Oh look, and there's Akima's avatar.

Sorflakne · « **Reply #103 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:06 »

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Dibs on the tall Asian girl with the almond-shaped eyes.

Hands off. Those of us over 6' get first crack.

Border Reiver · « **Reply #104 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:23 »

Quote from: cesariojpn on 06 Jun 2012, 02:30

Quote from: cpflux on 06 Jun 2012, 02:09
Sure, Marten is a bit worried about training three new interns.

But, deep down, dude's thinking, "Three more ladies to add to my harem."

I really don't want this webcomic to turn into some pseudo-harem comedy.

You wants and desires have so little to do with it though.

come to think of it, so so mine.

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #105 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:30 »

That asian girl is TALL!

I would look so silly next to her hahahhahahah (I'm 5'6'')

Also, weeee for mistery girl... But yeah, I never liked those "bunny teeth" on people. Big turn off.

Throg · « **Reply #106 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:34 »

This is hardly a harem anime. If that were the case, Faye, Hannelore, and Marigold would have been all over Marten by now. But, it does seem like there are more female characters, and that they've gotten more colorful personality types.

Jeph FINALLY included an asian character -- was wondering when that would happen.

WAYF · « **Reply #107 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:37 »

File and Save:
Her name is Tai Hubbert.
Only took us more than 1500 strips to find out.
Worth it.

Penheart · « **Reply #108 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:46 »

It took me reading through the whole comic first and then looking back again to realize who she was. I was so happy.

I will say her neutral expression seem a bit awkward and dorky, not in a necessarily bad way. Though her other expressions, as Jeph showed us,
http://jephjacques.com/post/20639465972/more-face-sketches-of-that-goddamn-girl-i-keep
look much more lively and Hannalorish rather than the more awkward Marigoldish we see now. Maybe that's just me and plus she was only there for three panels so I could be very wrong.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #109 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 04:57 »

Quote from: Throg on 06 Jun 2012, 04:34

This is hardly a harem anime.

Well, Marten isn't exactly a Bishiounen, the storyline doesn't lend enough to Shojo, Tai doesn't seem to break the Yuri trope that well, and how could you define AntroPC's and a fully functional Space station in a Slice of Life trope?

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #110 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 05:47 »

Quote from: Throg on 06 Jun 2012, 04:34

Jeph FINALLY included an asian character -- was wondering when that would happen.

We alredy saw an asian character once... But yeah, only once. Let's see how long are we going to see these girls.

I'm getting the feeling males are a dying breed in QC world.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #111 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 05:56 »

I was pretty confused because there have been lots of Asian characters, but then I realised that you guys were talking about East Asia and when I hear the term Asian I think of South Asia.

TinPenguin · « **Reply #112 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 06:04 »

Quote from: Mr. Doctor on 06 Jun 2012, 05:47

I'm getting the feeling males are a dying breed in QC world.

Well, I would certainly imagine they are rare in an all-girl college...

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #113 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 06:07 »

Hah, shit I forgot about that part!

My point still stands though, considering Jeph's preference of drawing women.

Akima · « **Reply #114 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 06:36 »

Quote from: Throg on 06 Jun 2012, 04:34

Jeph FINALLY included an asian character -- was wondering when that would happen.

I think the first East Asian character in QC was Chinese Delivery Man though he didn't get any lines...

And yes "Asian", unqualified, is very ambiguous. Padma would be Asian to someone from the UK. Probably Amir too.

jwhouk · « **Reply #115 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 06:51 »

The Unscientific Poll We Haven't Done In A While - Your Favorite Character?

Marten 6 (7.5%)
Faye 13 (16.3%)
Dora 1 (1.3%)
Hannelore 29 (36.3%) <"Number One Answer.">
Pintsize 2 (2.5%)
Marigold 10 (12.5%)
Steve 0 (0%)
Sven 0 (0%)
Raven 6 (7.5%)
Angus 1 (1.3%)
Tai 1 (1.3%)
Penelope 0 (0%)
Momo 6 (7.5%)
Winslow 1 (1.3%)
Other (Specify) 4 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 80

Barmymoo · « **Reply #116 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 06:54 »

Padma and Amir are Asian, in that their ancestors were from the continent of Asia, as much as Chinese Delivery Man or the new character, surely? I realise that the countries people assume the term refers to vary depending on what their experiences have been (and historically the UK has had more South Asian immigration whilst the US and Australia have had more East Asian) but that doesn't actually change the fact that Asia is a continent.

jwhouk · « **Reply #117 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:04 »

I'm gonna call it now - the one on the far right that isn't the tall Asian or the redhead? SHE'S the TG co-ed.

Yarin · « **Reply #118 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:06 »

Adventure time is fun to watch even when not high as hell

ZBixby · « **Reply #119 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:11 »

While Hanners and Mom are my favorite female characters my favorite all around character is Sven. While he started off as just a womanizing jackass I feel he has evolved immensely within the comic and would love to see much more of him.

Also woooo mystery girl. I'm gonna make my assumption now and say her name starts with an L.... Maybe Lisa? Lindsey? Idk just assuming.

SomeCanadianWeirdo · « **Reply #120 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:11 »

In North American English Asian usually refers to someone from China, Japan, Korea, and immediate neighbours with similiar looking people like Vietnam, Thailand etc. South Asian has become an increasingly common term in Canada to refer to people from India, Pakistan, and ttheir related neighbours.

Add me to the list of readers who figured Tai was in some way Asian. She definitely falls into the "ambiguously brown" category.(I will not be cruel and link to TV Tropes.) Giving her a last name doesn't clarify things.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #121 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:14 »

I've been puzzled for ages by what people mean when they say "co-ed". I knew they were talking about a student who attends college, and I knew that it was short for co-educational, but I never worked out what made someone a co-ed rather than a student. Just asked wikipedia and to be honest I'm still in the dark.

pwhodges · « **Reply #122 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:19 »

It's not a person who's co-ed, it's an institution, owing to the fact of both sexes being educated together. Historically, schools (at least, the bigger ones, and boarding schools) were single sex, and when I was at public school (private boarding school for the rest of you), the very few such that had both sexes were referred to simply as co-eds. The same applies for colleges, I guess.

Edit: I now see the use of coed to mean (principally) a female student in US slang, which I've not come across before. Presumably this is applied to women because most places would have been men-only before they went co-ed; it strikes me as a demeaning usage (with implications of the "token minority" figure).

sleypy · « **Reply #123 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:28 »

I voted for Margold. Her personality remind me of mine when I was younger. Plus I started reading the comic because I saw a link to a comic with her and Dale and was obligated to read the 1600 or so comic back log.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #124 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:29 »

It's the latter usage I'm querying, and yes, I also have got the impression that it is used to refer to women, which is rather ironic since I'm a woman and I decidedly do not attend a co-ed college. Am I a co-ed?

pwhodges · « **Reply #125 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:43 »

Are you a token minority? <ducks>

Actually, are you at one of the still all-female colleges - Newnham, perhaps?

Redball · « **Reply #126 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:50 »

You might be called a co-ed if you attended a U.S. university. But it's my impression the word may be on its way out. It's still handy, I suppose, for headline writers, a lot shorter than the words which define it.

Soulsynger · « **Reply #127 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 07:58 »

And what - specifically - defines a TG co-ed? °O

RyanW1019 · « **Reply #128 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:04 »

For the non-narcotic-familiar of us out here, are there any drugs that would get you "high as hell" without being obvious to the people around you? I think we've seen a similar lack of effect before with Tai on LSD (the one where she sees dragons, finding it on my phone would take too long), but my inexperienced intuition says that there would be a pretty noticable effect for any strong narcotic, like with alcohol.

Also, Jeph tweeted that Marten has slept with 3 people since the strip started. I can only remember Dora and Padma. Who am I forgetting??

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #129 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:05 »

Quote from: cvcharger on 05 Jun 2012, 23:09

You know, now that I think about it, why can't robots eat cupcakes? I mean, surely a civilization that has achieved singularity must have also started developing biochemical reactors, which work best with carbohydrates, which is basically all there is to cupcakes. Or maybe I missed something.

They could use symbiotic bacteria, or just dry out the food and incinerate it (have you seen the video of the thermal lance made of bacon?). An auxiliary power source like that could come in handy when traveling.

Methane-producing bacteria and a methane fuel cell might be the most compact design with the fewest tradeoffs.

Marijuana's effects are much less visible from the outside than alcohol's.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #130 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:15 »

Yes, Paul, I'm at Newnham, which is obviously and objectively the best college

And now you can all come and visit me! Unless you are massively creepy stalkers, in which case the porters will catch you on the way in and feed you to the college bear.

TinPenguin · « **Reply #131 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:15 »

Quote from: RyanW1019 on 06 Jun 2012, 08:04

Also, Jeph tweeted that Marten has slept with 3 people since the strip started. I can only remember Dora and Padma. Who am I forgetting??

Pintsize

pwhodges · « **Reply #132 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:16 »

Quote from: RyanW1019 on 06 Jun 2012, 08:04

Also, Jeph tweeted that Marten has slept with 3 people since the strip started. I can only remember Dora and Padma. Who am I forgetting??

Vicky, I suppose. They were actually together only before the strip started; but she has appeared in the strip, and Marten told the story.

Quote from: TinPenguin on 06 Jun 2012, 08:15

Pintsize

It's more that Pintsize slept with him...

celticgeek · « **Reply #133 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:26 »

Quote from: RyanW1019 on 06 Jun 2012, 08:04

For the non-narcotic-familiar of us out here, are there any drugs that would get you "high as hell" without being obvious to the people around you? I think we've seen a similar lack of effect before with Tai on LSD (the one where she sees dragons, finding it on my phone would take too long), but my inexperienced intuition says that there would be a pretty noticable effect for any strong narcotic, like with alcohol.

Dragon LSD

Method of Madness · « **Reply #134 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 08:47 »

Quote from: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Jun 2012, 07:11

She definitely falls into the "ambiguously brown" category.

Wait, she does?

Also, re: 3...it's possible the third person is someone he literally "slept next to". I also suppose it's possible that Jeph miscounted.

Oh, and I've always found the term "co-ed" to refer to a female to be odd.

Wimblesaurus · « **Reply #135 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 09:10 »

The new characters are Miss Frizzle, Sakaki, and... Are there any heavyset Indian ladies in the media? I can't think of any, I feel like such a cad.

Throg · « **Reply #136 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 09:57 »

Okay okay I meant EAST ASIAN.

Quote from: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Jun 2012, 07:11

In North American English Asian usually refers to someone from China, Japan, Korea, and immediate neighbours with similiar looking people like Vietnam, Thailand etc. South Asian has become an increasingly common term in Canada to refer to people from India, Pakistan, and ttheir related neighbours.

Add me to the list of readers who figured Tai was in some way Asian. She definitely falls into the "ambiguously brown" category.(I will not be cruel and link to TV Tropes.) Giving her a last name doesn't clarify things.

As a Korean-American from NYC, this is a pretty good summary...hadn't heard the South Asian bit, but it makes sense: better than calling a Pakistani "Indian", and sure beats calling an Indian person "Paki". Amir is Middle-Eastern; Padma is obviously Indian; and as for Tai, I always thought she was either a halfie or Filipino, a Pinoy; although, depending on where you're standing, that's the same thing anyway (ducks, j/k!!)

In one of the QC dumps, Jeph did detail how tall Marten is -- does anyone remember? B/c tall asian girl looks TALL.

Just realized that's one of the things I like about QC: race just doesn't matter. Not a peep about an Indian girlfriend or whatever.

Throg · « **Reply #137 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 10:07 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2012, 08:47

Oh, and I've always found the term "co-ed" to refer to a female to be odd.

Co-ed was still in use in the 1980's, but I think since the 90's that it has become rapidly antiquated. As in, "I called up a hot co-ed on my rotary phone to meet at the Automat."

jmucchiello · « **Reply #138 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 10:11 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 06 Jun 2012, 07:19

Edit: I now see the use of coed to mean (principally) a female student in US slang, which I've not come across before. Presumably this is applied to women because most places would have been men-only before they went co-ed; it strikes me as a demeaning usage (with implications of the "token minority" figure).

Quote from: Barmymoo on 06 Jun 2012, 07:29

It's the latter usage I'm querying, and yes, I also have got the impression that it is used to refer to women, which is rather ironic since I'm a woman and I decidedly do not attend a co-ed college. Am I a co-ed?

Odd, the usage in the US dates back to the 1950s at least. That's when a lot of the men's college became co-ed, women's colleges tended to go co-ed in the late 60s and 70s if the went co-ed at all. And somehow women attending a former all-male college became known as coeds. The usage then spread to women attending any co-ed college. I don't think you can be a co-ed at an all-female school though. Likewise, if the school was original all-female, I don't think the term co-ed referring to a student occurred at all.

Since the first women stepping onto a formerly all-make college were definitely in the minority, there wasn't anything "token" about it. I don't think co-eds found being called co-eds demeaning though. That attitude sounds like the reaction of someone from the 80s, not someone from the 50s.

And as someone else pointed out, the usage is becoming archaic since there is no longer a bunch of colleges "going co-ed" any more. The majority have changed and the idea of a co-ed college is no longer "new and exciting".

Murphoid · « **Reply #139 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 10:20 »

Why is Nani from Lilo and Stitch asking to get high as hell? Is nothing sacred?

iduguphergrave · « **Reply #140 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 10:54 »

As stoked as I am about the red-headed girl, I'm more stoked that Jeph actually added a chunky girl. There needs to be a couple more of those around (Faye and Mar-bear are more husky than anything).

nekorion · « **Reply #141 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 11:00 »

Voted Raven.

Asian girl is all sorts of cute. Demand more of her constantly.

Constantly.

iusticanun · « **Reply #142 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 11:03 »

I find myself torn between the redgead and the Asian on whom to root for. Two likes of mine that can never meet.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #143 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 11:30 »

Quote from: Throg on 06 Jun 2012, 10:07

Automat

You can't imagine my disappointment when I looked this up and it had nothing to do with robots.

Redball · « **Reply #144 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 12:05 »

I first went to it when I was a child. I thought it did have something to do with robots, until I opened a door and saw a moving, living human hand. I had to assume it was attached to the rest of a human, and you can probably imagine my disappointment.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #145 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 13:53 »

Quote from: Akima on 06 Jun 2012, 06:36

And yes "Asian", unqualified, is very ambiguous. Padma would be Asian to someone from the UK. Probably Amir too.

I'd figure those two were Middle Eastern, which technically means their Asians if you want to get literal geography-wise.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #146 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 14:01 »

Why wouldn't you? Doesn't it make the most sense to have Asian = from Asia?

Sure, it covers over half the world, but so what? If you want to be more specific about where someone's from, there's nothing stopping you, but that doesn't make someone from Asia any less Asian.

(And that's not even getting into Europe/Asia vs. Eurasia)

Barmymoo · « **Reply #147 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 14:58 »

That was my point earlier. My usual assumption when I hear "Asian" is Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi because those are the main countries of origin for the first and second-generation immigrants in the area I grew up in, but Asia is a big place. This is kind of touching on some of the stuff that came up in the Discuss racism thread recently - why would we limit "Asian" to a certain collection of countries and not others?

Sorflakne · « **Reply #148 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 15:06 »

I have a Korean friend who constantly reminds me that Russians, Indians, Iranians and Saudis aren't Asians. 'Asian' to her is only people from east and south Asia.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #149 on:** 06 Jun 2012, 15:12 »

Quote from: Barmymoo on 06 Jun 2012, 14:58

That was my point earlier. My usual assumption when I hear "Asian" is Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi because those are the main countries of origin for the first and second-generation immigrants in the area I grew up in, but Asia is a big place. This is kind of touching on some of the stuff that came up in the Discuss racism thread recently - why would we limit "Asian" to a certain collection of countries and not others?

You dare question the Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? TV show over which countries are in Asia? They had their stuff verified!!

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