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The Return of the OMGTurkeys! What are YOU thankful for?

The strip.
- 66 (13.1%)
Jeph's health.
- 110 (21.9%)
MY health.
- 60 (11.9%)
YOUR health.
- 31 (6.2%)
Family and friends (though not necessarily in that order).
- 86 (17.1%)
This forum.
- 20 (4%)
Turkey and all the trimmings.
- 13 (2.6%)
The interwebs.
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Something else.
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Spathe Ham!
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...must... read... ALL the posts...
- 33 (6.6%)

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Author Topic: WCDT: 2323-2327 (19-23 November 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 141833 times)

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A short week, but a fun one.
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You need to make that a multi-option poll, I'm thankful for several of those things...
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Unfortunately, once it's up, it can't be made into a multiple-option poll without Moderator assistance.
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Beat me to that request Carl!
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I've changed it to 3 options.
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"Being human, having your health; that's what's important."  (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?"  (from: The Eccentric Family )

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I'm a little surprised I'm the first to vote for "This forum." I am truly grateful for you guys. I wish I had the words for it. Rock on. :)
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Both the hope and destroyer of worlds. Feel lucky?

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I guess I was second...
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I just got home. Third.
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Who? What? How'd you get home before you got to third? I don't know ...
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THIRD BASE!
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Oh, and I can't change my vote. :(
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Comi....


Whoa.
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Wow, Jeph did an amazing job keeping this one under wraps.
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Can't say I saw that coming.
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Oop comic!

Didn't see that coming but it was pleasantly straightforward (and exciting)
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Jeph was asking about trans people a while back.

I changed the poll settings to allow changing votes.
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Holy damn, Claire is nearly an exact carbon copy as someone as I know.  Not quite down to the name though. But still.....
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Interesting. 


Marten wins with the non-reaction.  Just what Claire needed, I'm sure. 
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Wouldn't the proper term be TG?

And boy, she said that to the right person.
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Well, Tumblr is going to lacerate Jeph for this, even though it is, as far as I can tell, respectful and reasonable and not at all offensive. The mere fact that "cisplanation" is accepted terminology on Tumblr ensures it.
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Wouldn't the proper term be TG?

Trans is the more common term, from what I've gathered. 
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Well I went for being thankful for the forum. The last couple of months weren't the best for me, but the insanity found on here definitely helped. Thanks folks.

Also, thankful for Marten proving he is a decent human being, again. :-P
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Marten's virtues, front and center. Everyone should have a friend like that.
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How drunk is he?  Is the calm face covering a muddled "Trans...trans... what the hell does that mean?"
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Marten's virtues, front and center. Everyone should have a friend like that.

Agreed, Marten handled that seemingly perfectly.  Well done to Claire too for picking the person, moment, and fashion in which to release that information. 

No Marten-Claire kisses then?
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I suspect he's the one who's most familiar with TG's, probably thanks to mom. (That's the term my cousin, who is FTM, uses for himself.)

And let's not go into shipping there, ricco.
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Haha not so much shipping as plot development, I was thinking that Jeph might have had them hold their ground at the end of the dock.
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Finally, another character with boy-parts.  This comic was turning into a total taco fest.
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Indeed, Marty has experience with the trans community.
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And let's not go into shipping there, ricco.

Not necessarily shipping.  It was being posited last week, after all.  Primo real estate and all...


However, the level of trust needed for divulging that is pretty high.  Probably puts Marten into the big brother zone rather than anywhere else. 



Also explains a bit why Clinton's such an ass to her.  She was his big brother. 

Finally, another character with boy-parts.  This comic was turning into a total taco fest.

Actually, we don't know if she's pre- or post-surgery. 
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Well, Tumblr is going to lacerate Jeph for this, even though it is, as far as I can tell, respectful and reasonable and not at all offensive.
hey, it's only the first strip, give it time

(JUST KIDDING JEPH)

I'm in. Let's see where this goes.
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Indeed, Marty has experience with the trans community.

A drag queen does not a transexual make.
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No, but they are people. And thus make themselves what they want to be. And lets face it, the childhood Marten had, I doubt anything like that would really phase him anymore.





(Its 5:30 in the morning and I'm off for some sleep!)
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Faye and Angus weren't dunked?

I am disappointed, Mr. Reed.
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Damn. That was awesome. I love this comic a little more every time something like this happens.
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I am not that wise in what "trans" means.  I think that Claire is saying that she's biologically male, but mentally/spiritually female, and wishes to be treated as a female.  Am I understanding things correctly?  Googling was involved.
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...well that was a change of topic.
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I registered just to ask this, soooooo....

Could it be possible that Claire is biologically female but male gendered?  That he's pre-transition?
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Well, Tumblr is going to lacerate Jeph for this, even though it is, as far as I can tell, respectful and reasonable and not at all offensive. The mere fact that "cisplanation" is accepted terminology on Tumblr ensures it.

Oh crap, there goes his other hand.....
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I am not that wise in what "trans" means.  I think that Claire is saying that she's biologically male, but mentally/spiritually female, and wishes to be treated as a female.  Am I understanding things correctly?  Googling was involved.

I think so... my knowledge of transsexuality(?) is weak at point. She is either a birth male who feels like she is a female and dresses/acts as such or a girl who feels like a male but doesn't dress/act as such.
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I have to say I love this comic, especially when Jeph handles topics like this so well, it kinda restores my faith you know.
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Two things:

1. I would suspect she is MTF (Male-turning-Female). It also might explain why she's somewhat older than what we'd expect for a college intern, as it took her a while to get into Smif. You know, an all-women's college?

2. Anyone who even THINKS about going after Jeph after this - ESPECIALLY ON TUMBLR - shall feel the wrath of this forum.
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I am not that wise in what "trans" means.  I think that Claire is saying that she's biologically male, but mentally/spiritually female, and wishes to be treated as a female.  Am I understanding things correctly?  Googling was involved.
Transgender is something of a catch-all term, describing different types of gender variant issues (including transsexual people). In this case, we only know that Claire is "trans", but assuming she's a transgender woman, it could mean that she is a woman who was assigned as a boy as birth, identifies as a woman, but doesn't want the surgery. If she was transsexual, that would mean that she had the operation to align her body to her identity.
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I think so... my knowledge of transsexuality(?) is weak at point. She is either a birth male who feels like she is a female and dresses/acts as such or a girl who feels like a male but doesn't dress/act as such.


yeah thats pretty much it you know
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...well that was a change of topic.

Actually, I think she was trying to say exactly this before Faye interrupted.

And UmberGryphon, that's my understanding as well, though we don't know whether Claire has undergone Sex Reassignment Surgery yet. She (he?) might have.
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I do recall Jeph asking if there were any transexuals at Smif.
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She (he?) might have.

I Think at this point its probly safe to say she
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Good question whether she's post or pre op I'll say the same thing I say to everyone male or female gay or straight don't have sex in front of me and we'll be golden
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I am not that wise in what "trans" means.  I think that Claire is saying that she's biologically male, but mentally/spiritually female, and wishes to be treated as a female.  Am I understanding things correctly?  Googling was involved.
Transgender is something of a catch-all term, describing different types of gender variant issues (including transsexual people). In this case, we only know that Claire is "trans", but assuming she's a transgender woman, it could mean that she is a woman who was assigned as a boy as birth, identifies as a woman, but doesn't want the surgery. If she was transsexual, that would mean that she had the operation to align her body to her identity.

I would have to agree this is what should be assumed until elaborated on.

It is also rather nice Jeph for this to do this, he can enlighten some of us out there (like myself) who are rather ignorant of transsexuals due to lack of exposure and public attention. 
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It is also rather nice Jeph for this to do this, he can enlighten some of us out there (like myself) who are rather ignorant of transsexuals due to lack of exposure and public attention. 


This is so true, and most of the representations of trans people in media aren't that great, its nice to see good depictions of people like me
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