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So where DOES Pintsize sleep?

The dent in the wall in the corner.
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Marten's room. Usually on the floor next to the dresser.
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In Marten's BED. (Ever since Dora left, of course.)
- 4 (11.1%)
In a Faraday Cage.
- 2 (5.6%)
Duct taped to the wall (right above the dent in the wall in the corner).
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In a lead-lined box at the bottom of the ocean. (He keeps coming back.)
- 1 (2.8%)
Or maybe a lead-lined box at the bottom of the river?
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He is Celing Cat. He sneaks in via the overhead fan.
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He sleeps on the couch, now that Faye isn't using it.
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He sleeps with the waffles!
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HE NEVER SLEEPS! (Cue wicked laughter)
- 10 (27.8%)
Something else which hasn't occured to me.
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Author Topic: WCDT: 2338-2342 (10-14 December 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 67980 times)

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Even if Momo has always worn clothes, in the old chassis her clothes were much smaller and presumably couldn't be hung up in a closet or she couldn't reach them. Now that she's human-sized they're probably both using the same storage space.
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For the first time reading QC I had to go into Google Translate. Is sartorial a commonly used word? Never seen it before.
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Momo's clothes for the old chassis were changeable: she started out in something I would (probably wrongly) call a kimono.

Bathrobe.
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[ ... ]Momo, unlike Pintsize, has always worn clothes.
Not necessarily. Those could've been permanent clothes attached to the chassis. (we've never seen the old Momo chassis without those clothes, have we? Oo)

 Yes, #1298  :-)
 
 

Huh, I just now made the connection between 1298 panel 4 and alt-1624.

Wonder if she still has such functionality in her new chassis. Did we ever see her projection capabilities?
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For the first time reading QC I had to go into Google Translate. Is sartorial a commonly used word? Never seen it before.

Not commonly used at all.  Beau Brummel reveled in sartorial splendor, but it's not been in common usage since about that time. 
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Marigold and Momo must share an extremely limited closet space. It's not as if Mari is a clothes-horse; her wardrobe seems to be very limited. Jeph's comment on today's strip is a little odd. Momo, unlike Pintsize, has always worn clothes.
Clothes aren't the only things that can be kept in a closet.

There's also skeletons, orientations, bodies, money...
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For the first time reading QC I had to go into Google Translate. Is sartorial a commonly used word? Never seen it before.

Here in the UK it is not in common use, but I would expect it to be fairly widely understood.

[edited to add "in the UK"]
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All I got is:  AWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwww.

And a wish for an anthroPC of my own.  :-)
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I was actually more impressed that Marigold was aware enough to ask, that hasn't always been the case.

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Well, Marigold has kept some pretty good company since her introduction. Besides, she's always been pretty considerate of Momo.
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For the first time reading QC I had to go into Google Translate. Is sartorial a commonly used word? Never seen it before.

Here it is not in common use, but I would expect it to be fairly widely understood.

My parents say it all the time, and then nobody else I know does. But I gather that it means "to do with clothing", or "WAYF has a lousy sense of fashion".
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Welp, reading QC surely is a learning experience.
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Here it is not in common use, but I would expect it to be fairly widely understood.
Well, mybe for those who have it as a mother tongue. I've never seen that word before but I understood what it meant because of the context... But if someone asked me what that word meant without any context at all I wouldn't be able to answer.
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Marigold looks less budgy and more cute in today's comic.  Perhaps her friendship with Hanners and getting out more, as well as momo helping her live a bit better is starting to affect Marigold.
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Agree, she looks specially cute today.
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It's probably because she's completely relaxed at home with Momo; no tension in her shoulders making her slump forwards and such….
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Well, she did just parade around in a skimpy bikini and not get mocked for it, which is almost certainly a first for her. So she's probably feeling pretty good about herself right now.
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Did she? Or did Marten's awkwardness drive her off?
We just don't know…
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That went completely over my head. Pop culture reference?
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I think Paul meant "here" as in "in the UK", rather than "on this forum". Certainly I think it's a reasonably understood word in British English. I mostly remember it due to the Sartorialist blog, which I don't follow but have heard of a lot.
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Yes, I meant in the UK; sorry, I should take my own advice about being explicit and not assuming that people know where I am!
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No I understood what you meant, no worries.
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Jeph's comment on today's strip is a little odd. Momo, unlike Pintsize, has always worn clothes.

Unless he changed it before I saw it, Jeph's comment specifically says "full sized clothing." Momo's entire wardrobe, even if it were fairly large, could probably have fit in a single drawer when she had the smaller chassis. Now that she is human-sized, she needs more space.

That said, you're right. Mari seems to wear the same few things, so I can't imagine she's using a lot of closet space.
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I keep looking at the robot pictures on the walls and thinking it's an odd choice for decoration... so I pretend they're pictures of Momo's parents... and then I have to pretend that somehow makes sense, just so I can explain to myself why it's not weird for them to be there.  :psyduck:
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I'm thinking something along the lines of Manga -> Ludicrous Mecha -> Too hard/much effort to draw -> Toasterbots
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Maybe Momo is being sensible and not buying things she doesn't have storage space for - she wouldn't leave her clothes on the floor, surely!
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She definitely looks slimmer here.
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Also, I agree with the comments that Marigold looks particularly cute today. I think the suggestion that it is because she's at home and, therefore, more relaxed might be true. But, she typically slouched forward even at home.

The fact that she's wearing a tank top that appears to fit her properly -- as opposed to her usual oversized t-shirt -- probably doesn't hurt. It could also contribute to her appearing slimmer than usual, since oversized clothes tend to make you look larger and less-shapely than you really are.
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 And this will be my new wallpaper (Taken from the last QA Dump):
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I love the robot art all over the walls

You can really tell that Momo has a very special place in Marigold's heart  :-D
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Never mind a wardrobe - where does Momo shut down for the night? I can't imagine continuing to share a single bed with Marigold could be entirely comfortable for either.
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I wonder what comfort would be for Momo.  Is it possible that she could simply disengage her touch sensors and be "comfortable" wherever?
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Maybe the couch? Momo might be fine "sleeping" on the floor, but Marigirl would feel wrong about it.

Maybe the library needs a night watchman^H^H^Hperson^H^H^H^H^H^Hentity?
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I would love to be able to shut off my arm if it was under someone else's head...ah, to not have that feeling of deadweight arm...
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Hmm...where DOES Pintsize sleep?


God I hope he sleeps at all. Lord only knows what that mind does at odd hours of the night...something akin to Ethan McManus on acid.
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Yelling Bird's secret.

EDIT: I suggest that the next poll be about where Pintsize sleeps.

EDIT: Why do they go into sleep mode anyway? It's not a necessity, at least not for Momo. Maybe they get bored when their human friends are conked out, but they have the entire Internet to play on, and AnthroPC-specific chat rooms. If they can just go to sleep when they're bored like (some) cats, why does Pintsize get into trouble?
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I keep looking at the robot pictures on the walls and thinking it's an odd choice for decoration... so I pretend they're pictures of Momo's parents... and then I have to pretend that somehow makes sense, just so I can explain to myself why it's not weird for them to be there.  :psyduck:
Wall scrolls are one of the primary types of anime merchandise. They're usually much more complicated of course, but Jeph can't 5 hours drawing them every time. Here's someone talking about them and showing one off: http://otakudan.com/2009/12/new-wall-scroll.html

Never mind a wardrobe - where does Momo shut down for the night? I can't imagine continuing to share a single bed with Marigold could be entirely comfortable for either.
I've assumed she sat in the desk chair or indian style in a corner during the night, either shut down or in sleep mode or poking through the internet.

Pintsize sleeps on the ceiling. He is Ceiling Cat.
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I'm a fan of "duct-taped to the wall", personally.
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I wrote  bit about anthro PC sleep (and dreaming) in my only "fanfic", here

Basically, the idea is that AI sentience complex enough that they need some kind of downtime. 
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At least Momo presumably needs to recharge her batteries. Possibly also back herself up into cloud storage? Run housekeeping tasks? Or perhaps Carl is correct and above a certain level all intelligences need to shut down external inputs (after all, we don't die when we go to sleep, our brains are quite active) to integrate the experiences of the day, and dream of electric sheep.
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I was actually more impressed that Marigold was aware enough to ask, that hasn't always been the case.
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Now compare with the Emily/Pintsize interaction earlier on.

In one case, treatment as an equal, in the other as an object.

From Momo's expression, she's pretty pleased that Marigold so effortlessly made the transition. Possibly because she's a fundamentally nice person.

For extra credit - is Pintsize naturally a Fratboy Jerk, or is there something a bit less obnoxious beneath, hidden by a defence mechanism? Call that an exercise in seeing AIs as equals....  because we shouldn't give AIs lattitude that we wouldn't give others, nor deny them consideration.
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and dream of electric sheep.
Momo might, since she's an android now, but Pintsize is still just a robot so he can't yet.

Or maybe I'm over thinking this.
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and dream of electric sheep.
Momo might, since she's an android now, but Pintsize is still just a robot so he can't yet.

Or maybe I'm over thinking this.
I think you're underthinking it, actually. 

They're both running the "AI sentience" program, admittedly on different chipsets.  But you're distinguishing them based on their chassis... and that's a little bit racist! 

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Momo does not need sleep.

To be fair, she's an unreliable narrator there.  I've heard the same thing from college students...
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I think you're underthinking it, actually. 

They're both running the "AI sentience" program, admittedly on different chipsets.  But you're distinguishing them based on their chassis... and that's a little bit racist! 
Yay for Avenue Q references!

But android is just a descriptor - a robot made to both look and act human - and Pintsize doesn't meet the definition because he doesn't look human (whether he acts human is a question for a criminal psychologist.)
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So what are the two callbacks that Jeph mentions on Twitter?  One is obviously the duct tape; but I can't think of what the other is, at least specifically enough to separate it out from among several possibilities.
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So what are the two callbacks that Jeph mentions on Twitter?  One is obviously the duct tape; but I can't think of what the other is, at least specifically enough to separate it out from among several possibilities.
Bunkbeds perhaps? Marigolds last encounter with them didn't go very well
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