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The Wedding! What was your Moment Of The Week?

The explanation of "Aunt" Jane.
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An "Erotic Photographer!"
- 0 (0%)
Lace Panties and a Garter Belt. (I could really use some more material for my upskirt site!)
- 3 (8.1%)
"Marten, be a good boy and look away." (Yes, mother.)
- 2 (5.4%)
Does it, um, bother you? What your mother does? (Nah, I'm used to it.)
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It must've been weird growing up.
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It was pretty funny seeing other parents "recognize" her on Career Day...
- 6 (16.2%)
The Artistic Equivalent of Name Dropping (Charles Stross, Keith GWS, Cassandra Clare, Holly Black)
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Who were all those people? I have NO idea.
- 5 (13.5%)
A female Officiant, White Tux, a Flower Girl, Maurice comes in on... a WHITE HORSE?
- 6 (16.2%)
Your noble steed is now grazing on the azaelas.
- 2 (5.4%)
Henry Reed and Maurice Duplantier.
- 0 (0%)
Ring exchange, kiss, "I now pronounce you married!"
- 0 (0%)
Claire: "That's IT?"
- 9 (24.3%)

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It just happens that Martin's boundaries on THAT particular issue (mothersapornstar) make the Atlantic Wall look like your white haired granny's garden gate.
That's all nice and well. But what about Marten's boundaries?

@jwhouk:
Being from Cali is of course an undeniable variable int his...

And yeah... I suppose most of Marten's reactions and the severity of them stem from situational factors. It was just a very sudden break for me between
an annoyed "Yes, mother." in one strip
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"Nah, I'm used to it." in the next.

Also I've just noticed that using "Not really" at the start of two answers in such short succession sounds really weird.


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Erm... nice read. Stopped me dead in the middle of my breakfast.  :-D :psyduck:
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On the topic of offensive terms, Cali is not okay with most people actually from California, any more than Frisco is okay for San Francisco. This may seem odd, since it's largely people from California who use it, but as I said on a different topic before, what's offensive and not offensive is very malleable and sometimes it's not worth the worry. I'm not one to care, but The More You Know.

On the topic of California, it's interesting the power some believe it has over Marten's mindset. This state is way more fractured than pop culture would have you believe. It's not the state, it's San Francisco specifically- not even Hollywood is as likely to be accepting.

*trimmed*
QCverse seems to be a lot more accepting than our verse, though of course that could be due to the limited perspective the characters we follow show us.

How does an Australian end up a DAR? I think they're lineage based.

And for a case of people being Not So Different, I may be a straight white male, with all the powers, privileges, and responsibilities that grants, but I greatly relate to part of your personal viewpoint. I don't mind what other people do unless it's destructive to others or themselves, and I'm okay around and accept people of very different lifestyles, but boy am I uninclined to try any of it myself, and my business is my own. It may be vanilla business, but it's mine and stay out. Whenever it rolls around, it's monogamy for me. Besides, it would be kind of stupid in a time investment sense to reject a friend just because she turns out to be a lesbian furry- then who else would I enjoy steampunk bands with?
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And yeah... I suppose most of Marten's reactions and the severity of them stem from situational factors. It was just a very sudden break for me between
an annoyed "Yes, mother." in one strip
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"Nah, I'm used to it." in the next.

Perhaps it's a case of, yes, it bothers him, but he's used to being bothered by it.
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Now I'm confused. MDBS is MillionDollarBeltSander. If you understand that it's a pearly string of semen puns, what is the confusion? Gender fluid is being taken as sex secretions, not as similar to malleable, happy batter is semen, the stain is a semen stain, cum is semen, cummerbund has 'cum' in the word, and Marten said happy batter and cummerbund in the comic linked to by the red period after "that".

Didn't realize it was referring to him when you were directly addressing me and didn't mean to do what? It didn't help to clear up confusion to me because yes, while I realize there seems to be a lot of words for "cum" in there, I still don't know what the sentence is actually saying. Also didn't see the link-dot at all.

At least MDBS' comment makes more sense given that you were linking a comic.
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Also I've just noticed that using "Not really" at the start of two answers in such short succession sounds really weird.


Not really
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Aw man... and I didn't even get credits for the alliteration.
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QCverse seems to be a lot more accepting than our verse, though of course that could be due to the limited perspective the characters we follow show us.

How does an Australian end up a DAR? I think they're lineage based.
I was attempting to translate, however clumsily into terms familiar in a US cultural context.
I might join the CWA - but here, that's not the Concerned Women of Australia, it's the Country Women's Association. While a lot of their social activities still involve making preserves, quilting, quite literally homespun yarns, many are cyber-savvy - running large farms is very hi-tech, even bleeding-edge in robotics and remote monitoring. Healthcare in remote areas pretty much has to involve remote diagnosis, sometimes telesurgery. They're my kind of gals. http://www.cwaa.org.au/about-us/

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I don't mind what other people do unless it's destructive to others or themselves, and I'm okay around and accept people of very different lifestyles, but boy am I uninclined to try any of it myself
Pretty much the same for me. I think I'm just maybe a little more square.
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Love the last panel. Both Claire's concern for Marten (bet she faced similar issues) and Marten's expression.
(Zoe hums "Harper Valley PTA" in background)

And I'm probably showing my age there, as many/most readers might not get the reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_Valley_PTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZPBUu7Fro



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I was attempting to translate, however clumsily into terms familiar in a US cultural context.
It does suck trying to use terms and terminologies when you're on the other side of the planet. Even something as simple as mum/mom (it grates me a little to use the American spelling, but I still do mostly out of host localisation (no way am I slipping a 'z' in there, though, or retracting a 'u' from my colourful language  :-D).
I don't mind what other people do unless it's destructive to others or themselves, and I'm okay around and accept people of very different lifestyles, but boy am I uninclined to try any of it myself
Pretty much the same for me. I think I'm just maybe a little more square.
Same here. What people get up to behind closed doors is their business. As Westrim addressed, so long as no-one is getting hurt (Wait. Bondage. Better make that "hurt outside their pre-defined consensual agreements" (I would have no effing clue how you work that out. Anyway, moving on)), or engaging in activities knowingly (key word being knowingly) spreading infections (it doesn't matter who you are or what you're into, STDs are nasty business), then I couldn't care less.
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(I would have no effing clue how you work that out.

Communication and negotiation. At least in a healthy relationship and/or transaction. In what I consider an optimal situation, both parties care about each other and fulfilling their desires/needs, but also because they care about each other they aren't going to push their limits into the destructive range.

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Bondage. Better make that "hurt outside their pre-defined consensual agreements" (I would have no effing clue how you work that out.[...])

Typically, by talking.  Post-red-text-edit: de_la_Nae worded it better.

Minor pet peeve: Bondage does not necessarily equal bodily pain.

For example, rule 34 tells us that there is someone out there who is getting off on having boobs flaunted in his face while being bound up in such a way that he cannot touch them. Bondage? Yes. Pain? No.

On the other hand, spanking some buttcheeks will cause a bit of pain, but does not require bondage at all.

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For some reason I'm not really feeling this whole arc. I'm curious to see the ceremony itself but it's taking a while to get there. Also, I wonder what the other QC folks are up to back home.
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I'd say it's still 50/50, though.

If I were a betting man, I'd say mom would be nigh estatic to find out about Claire. Dad would probably be okay with it, depending on how over-the-top Mom was being about it.

...You know something? I don't think I'm going to go any further. Guessing character reactions to Claire is almost too much like shipping.
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Love the last panel. Both Claire's concern for Marten (bet she faced similar issues) and Marten's expression.
(Zoe hums "Harper Valley PTA" in background)

And I'm probably showing my age there, as many/most readers might not get the reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_Valley_PTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZPBUu7Fro

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I find Marten's sudden ease about his mother's "work" VERY HARD to believe for some reason.

Why fake all that annoyance, why storm off everytime it gets explicit if you're so cool about it?
(I'm at work right now so my archive-fu is a bit hindered. But I can recall a couple of instances of Marten being VERY uneasy about Veronica's line of work °O)

I don't think he was faking the annoyance. He has always been pretty cool about it most of the time.... so long as he can remain ignorant of the details of what she's actually doing (ie. in that strip with Dora, he wants to ignore it but she continues the subject). I guess knowing that Jane is taking pictures up Veronica's skirt is pretty mundane in the scheme of things his mum does. If they were discussing a detailed photoshoot with how she was going to use specific props etc, he might have got up and left the room.

The only time I remember him storming off is when Veronica was flirting with Sven just after he and Dora broke up. (Which frankly, is completely understandable). Were there other times when he actually stormed off?
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The comic the references co^H^Hare derived from.
I thought the link I put in my post would be enough, but I was too subtle with it.  :-P
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I was going to argue that rule 36 follows from rule 34, but alas, that's not necessarily true. I have been out-nitpicked!  :psyduck:
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For some reason I'm not really feeling this whole arc. I'm curious to see the ceremony itself but it's taking a while to get there. Also, I wonder what the other QC folks are up to back home.
It reminds me of the space station arc - there was an interruption in that one, of course - but that also feels like Jeph stretching his abilities, putting his characters in new and unforeseen situations and locations. Nothing wrong with that. We'll be back at the COD before you know it.
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And I'm probably showing my age there, as many/most readers might not get the reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_Valley_PTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZPBUu7Fro

I remember finding the sequel to that song - basically, she goes on about how although they were hypocrites, they at least didn't make excuses, and blames attitudes such as that expressed in the first song for all manner of evil.  It's a bit disturbing, really, to see how thoroughly time got to her.

(Who the hell invited her on career day?)
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It reminds me of the space station arc - there was an interruption in that one, of course - but that also feels like Jeph stretching his abilities, putting his characters in new and unforeseen situations and locations. Nothing wrong with that. We'll be back at the COD before you know it.
For sure, I understand that it's necesary to break the pattern and try new things in order to keep it interesting, and it has been nice getting to see more of Marten's family dynamics and Claire's reactions to it all, but still I'm starting to miss the rest of the cast. Maybe it wouldn't feel so strange (to me) if this story arc was intercut every now and again with stuff going on "back home". I think this all seems so foreign because Marten is pretty much the only one representing the "core" of the QC group right now, as Claire is still a very recent character and Marten's parents don't appear enough in the comics to feel like familiar faces.
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Claire, who had been thinking about possible future make-outs with Marten, decides to call it off before ever telling him, on account of his family being too weird.
I don't think so.

Being Trans tends to broaden your mind.

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Certainly it does. I didn't mean to suggest Claire hates on any of that stuff. I simply meant that after the turmoil of transition, she may want a slice of "normality" to act as an anchor for her life. That's what a great many transfolk want - to feel "normal". And surrounding yourself with "normal" things is a way to move towards that.

nb. the scare quotes around "normal".
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I don't know how the family kept her profession secret after Marten used her bondage gear for Show&Tell.
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Why is "recognize" in quotation marks?
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I read that as "(tried very hard to pretend they didn't) recognize."
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I think that it is because if people "recognized" her, they would not want it known that they "recognized" her, and would try to hide it as best they could. 

Edit:  Well, DSL said it better that I did.
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Wouldn't we all have gotten that joke without the quotation marks?
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I just read it as a tone of voice. Like when I do air-quotes. Especially given the eye-roll goin' on.
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What ELSE are we going to see at this wedding?

That interesting uncle of Marten's.    2 (3.1%)
The flower girl.    1 (1.5%)
Broken glass.    0 (0%)
Veronica's OBJECTION!    1 (1.5%)
The Electric Slide.    2 (3.1%)
Drunk makeouts with some random dude.    1 (1.5%)
Or gal.    0 (0%)
Claire catches the boquet!    16 (24.6%)
Marten catches the garter!    4 (6.2%)
MOM catches the boquet!    7 (10.8%)
Oh, it's gonna get weird.    23 (35.4%)
...It got weird.    8 (12.3%)

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Anyone wanna bet he falls asleep doing the con prints?
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Three internets that he is already asleep. 

But he will probably wake up to post the comic, and then draw it. 
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One is a sci-fi author, one is a character from another comic, two are YA authors, one is just some crazy old lady

The Character From Another Comic, I'm betting, is Keith the Mall Santa from GWS.
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Quote from: Jeph Jacques (twitter)

One is a sci-fi author.
I can't shake the feeling that the short guy is John Scalzi, so I'm going to go with that. I saw him once, last year, at a panel at the LA Times Book Festival. I wish I had ignored the warnings and recorded it, because he and the other panelists were hilarious, and I can't find anyone else's surreptitious recording on the internet.
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One is a sci-fi author, one is a character from another comic, two are YA authors, one is just some crazy old lady

The Character From Another Comic, I'm betting, is that Mall Santa from GWS.


I just came in here to scream MALL SANTA!
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I just came in here to scream MALL SANTA!
My brain immediately shortened that to 'manta', then decided his name was Ray. Boom: Manta Ray.

I love you, brain.  :psyduck:
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One is a sci-fi author, one is a character from another comic, two are YA authors, one is just some crazy old lady

I think the woman with short black hair is Holly Black - Jeph has mentioned that he's friends with her husband Theo Black before.

Drawing a blank on the red head. I can think of 2 red haired YA authors, but neither of them fit.
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One is a sci-fi author, one is a character from another comic, two are YA authors, one is just some crazy old lady

I think the woman with short black hair is Holly Black - Jeph has mentioned that he's friends with her husband Theo Black before.

Drawing a blank on the red head. I can think of 2 red haired YA authors, but neither of them fit.

Definitely Holly & Theo!
My guess for the ginger is Libba Bray?
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Is that Dale in a suit in the first frame?

I thought that was some relative of Dale or Amir. And the two-tone woman in the second panel was related to Raven in some way.
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I think the short guy (sci-fi author) is Charles Stross.
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Is Claire's mother the hairdresser?

I've wondered; but people generally seem uninterested in making that association.

Wouldn't that be violating the "No Shipping" rule?
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Is Claire's mother the hairdresser?

I've wondered; but people generally seem uninterested in making that association.

Wouldn't that be violating the "No Shipping" rule?
Eh, it's more of a... guideline.  :-D
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(a) Speculating about a mother/child relationship hardly meets the usual definition of shipping; (b) the forum inmates are currently stricter over shipping than I am (which is not necessarily a licence to kick over the traces)!
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I thought it was Howard Tayler, myself. Top panel, on the left.
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That's it, I'm going in, BANZAAAAAAAAIIIII *tackles pwghodges while yelling something about shipping the hairdresser and Marigold's dad*

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I thought it was Howard Tayler, myself. Top panel, on the left.

Maybe, but last time I ran into him at a convention his head was a little shinier. Could be though, does look a little bit like him at least.

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I think the short guy (sci-fi author) is Charles Stross.

Ooh, he fits.

A possibility for the red haired woman?
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Don't recognize any of the guests - reminds me of some of the weddings I've been to.

Doing up wedding guest lists is "fun" in that you get to do the relationship calculus - "If I do/don't invite this person will they/someone else be offended?"  which can lead to all sorts of odd relatives showing up. 
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Calculus? Sounds more like a problem of graph theory to me  :-D
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