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So - which dress? (strip 2397)

1 (Dark Green with Frill Crossover)
- 10 (10.4%)
2 (Dark Red with odd bustline)
- 7 (7.3%)
3 (Slate Tunic)
- 9 (9.4%)
4 (Pink Pantsuit)
- 1 (1%)
5 (Turquoise Top)
- 7 (7.3%)
6 (Björk Björk Björk)
- 4 (4.2%)
7 (The Blue Dress)
- 21 (21.9%)
8 (Princess Peach!)
- 8 (8.3%)
I'm torn.
- 3 (3.1%)
She looks cute in ALL of them!
- 11 (11.5%)
Meh.
- 4 (4.2%)
I'm lousy at dresses.
- 11 (11.5%)

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Author Topic: WCDT: 2397-2401 (4-8 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 81588 times)

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I suspect I'm the only person here whose species has been debated.
"you can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies" - Morrissey
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I have a horrible feeling that you could find at least one 19th century anthropologist who said the same thing.
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great Divide makes some good ones. They're fairly widely distributed too.

Do you think they do overnight shipping to Germany?  :-\

Wtf, my browser is having caching issues or something.
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I have a horrible feeling that you could find at least one 19th century anthropologist who said the same thing.

Oh, you could, very easily. 19th and early 20th century anthropologists were very keen on classifying the human species into distinct sub-groups. The problem was that, in trying to make all the groups homogenous while still trying to make their classification systems account for all of human diversity, they kept dividing us into smaller and smaller groups until their systems became so unwieldy and divorced from reality that they were meaningless.

Modern white supremacist groups tend to rely heavily on these century-old classification schemes to support their views. They get a wee bit testy when anyone points out that these schemes have been thoroughly debunked by modern science. I've had some entertaining arguments with them about it.
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great Divide makes some good ones. They're fairly widely distributed too.

Do you think they do overnight shipping to Germany?  :-\

Wtf, my browser is having caching issues or something.
Ahh, you're German. Well in that case, try BeerNavigator. It'll cost you €13.25 in shipping and they don't have any Great Divide at the moment but they do have a metric fuckton of good beer from all over Europe and the US.

If you need/want recommendations, just let me know :-P
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I.... didn't actually expect such a helpful answer. But I am afraid I am not willing to order beer for so much money without trying it first. I was just moping around. ...This now catches me off-guard.
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Yeah, well, I am Dutch (so hai there neighbor) and a little bit much of a beer geek so I could actually give you a helpful answer. :-P

Also, trying new beers is half the reason to order there and half the fun in drinking beer. That said, I can give you recommendations based on what you like and sites like Beer Advocate and RateBeer are quite helpful in determining whether a beer is good and/or popular.
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19th and early 20th century anthropologists were very keen on classifying the human species into distinct sub-groups. The problem was that, in trying to make all the groups homogenous while still trying to make their classification systems account for all of human diversity, they kept dividing us into smaller and smaller groups until their systems became so unwieldy and divorced from reality that they were meaningless.

To be fair that's a problem with "subspecies" in general, there not being much of a clear demarcation in how much variation needs to be present in a given population. Makes me think of the bird species with hundreds of "subspecies" with just tiny differences in beak-shape or colouration and so forth. All of evolution is a continuum, not clear distinct categories (dating back to biblical "kinds" etc.), so if one is doing that with the birds then of course it's pretty understandable to do so with the Far-Eastern epicanthal fold, dry earwax and what-not in humans. But like with anything such genetic traits aren't set in stone, so the groupings end up inaccurate as well apart from general guidelines. [Swede] [Southern Africans]

I think it's also rather telling than when doing a quick look on bird subspecies, since they came to mind, the first Google hit was the Royal Society article "Are subspecies useful in evolutionary and conservation biology?".  :-D
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The topics of birds and subspecies make me think of ring species.  Anyone interested in speciation might enjoy musing on this special case.  Can we say they might find it ... amusing?
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I want to add my own memory of that one time at a wedding reception.  A couple of decades ago, I had been invited to one of my best friend's wedding.  He had it at the chapel where they had attended college together (he was from the Chicago area, she was from western IL).  I remember wearing the suit that I had had from my own graduation.  I caught the garter, and one of their younger cousins caught the bouquet.  The main reasons that I did not do anything with her was that 1) she was much younger than me (I think early teens), and 2) in catching the garter I had split my pants.  Luckily I had a pair of sweat pants in my car so that I could change, but I left the reception soon after a photo was taken of me and her with the married couple.   :oops:  And no, I was not the next person to get married (not even in my family).
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I have a horrible feeling that you could find at least one 19th century anthropologist who said the same thing.

The house I lived in in Hackney was once owned by a doctor who had to get out of Edinburgh because his habit of grave-robbing for anatomy lessons was not appreciated.  He diversified into importing black people, initially to be displayed in zoos.
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I have a horrible feeling that you could find at least one 19th century anthropologist who said the same thing.

The house I lived in in Hackney was once owned by a doctor who had to get out of Edinburgh because his habit of grave-robbing for anatomy lessons was not appreciated.  He diversified into importing black people, initially to be displayed in zoos.

Today we import other foreigners and lock them in jail.  Same thing?      *runs like hell*    :-o
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This is probably my new favorite comic.

As well, the only wedding reception I've ever been to was remarkably boring, they didn't have throw the bouquet/garter. Though it could have been due to them being fairly conservative (to my knowledge).
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The last two weddings I've been to also lacked this.
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I love how Claire's final dress was the SECOND to last one she's shown trying XD
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I like the green one, at least the color of it. Also, I love her expression in the Bjork dress.
I love how Claire's final dress was the SECOND to last one she's shown trying XD
Well yeah, she may be the prettiest princess, but you shouldn't upstage the couple getting married! :emotrex:
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I suspect I'm the only person here whose species has been debated. Not for long, the medical team quickly came to he decision that I was rightly classified as H.Sap... but it was reasonable to consider the question. Even I thought so, after seeing the blood tests.

I just realized, guys.. Zoe is a sleeper-agent Cylon..  :psyduck:


(Can I meet Gaius Baltar? He's mai husbando..)
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I suspect I'm the only person here whose species has been debated. Not for long, the medical team quickly came to he decision that I was rightly classified as H.Sap... but it was reasonable to consider the question. Even I thought so, after seeing the blood tests.

Seriously? There was actually a medical question about your species?
More a biological one, but yes.
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I'm used to it. In my case, my species was questioned based on purely biological test results. Whether I was a person deserving of civil rights was not, that question would never arise in the minds of my thoroughly professional, competent and caring medical team.
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I just realized, guys.. Zoe is a sleeper-agent Cylon..
We get treated like that sometimes, yes.

One episode of BSG in particular was severely triggering for many of us.

For that matter, a lot of Trans women really identified with Zoe in "Caprica"
Do I look male to you.... FRACK!!

OK, I think that's enough thread derailment.
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Held: that an Intersex person is neither a man nor woman so cannot be discriminated against on the basis of their sex - no matter how badly they're treated, it can't be considered discrimination.

In the marriage of C and D (falsely called C). (Brisbane Family Court) : Held: that an Intersex entity cannot marry anyone of either sex, as they are neither man nor woman, and marriage is between a man and a woman.


I'm used to it. In my case, my species was questioned based on purely biological test results. Whether I was a person deserving of civil rights was not, that question would never arise in the minds of my thoroughly professional, competent and caring medical team.

Wow. Now, THAT is vile.
Another reason I am glad to live on this side of the Atlantic. And to think the judges that took those decisions are supposed to be from the enlightened part of the population (or, at least, educated).
We are lucky to have a the ECHR around (European Court of Human Rights), who decided some times ago that a transsexual person should have her/his civil informations changed to reflect the change of sex.
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6 and 8 is not Claire. The rest looks great.
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I've got to say I'm with her all the way.  1 looks nice; 2 has those weird, ugly whatchamacallits; 3 is almost more of a tunic than a dress; 4... I can't put my finger on it, but between the color, neckline, length, and loose fit, it just looks wrong, and her complexion doesn't help; 5 is a nice dress, but again not great for a redhead; 6 and 8 are obvious jokes.
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8 is a pretty princess...but it only works when she's supposed to steal the spotlight from someone else...doing that at the wedding would be incredibly bad form.  :angel:
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I actually rather like the panel 4 dress.  It's kinda slinky, and I enjoy the color, though I realize others might find it a bit glaring.  Of course, it seems more like a date dress, rather than one for a social function, so it's probably for the best that she didn't choose it.  And panel 5 is cute, too, though a bit on the dowdy side.
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I like the plain one, actually. But then again I'm a sucker for clothes women feel comfortable in.

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I got the streetwalker-vibe from No.4. Albeit a classy one. °O
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I wonder.. will we make AI's so much in our own image? Will our species' children be better than their parents, or just different? [...]

OK, I'm a hopeless romantic. Meh. It's me.

What a great sentiment. However, AI is "artificial intelligence", which seems to preclude an emotional component, at least to me.
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 Since this is no longer available on the web, or in the tumblr, i'm just gonna post it here in case someone wants to save it or something  :angel: :

 
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The green dress is by far the best, imo.
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Dress three is hot as hell for some reason.... I have odd tastes.

Happy late anniversary ZoeB, I'm glad someone figured out you're human and slapped the pen away from the idiot who brought the question up. Wait. What other species were suggested? Could you have been a pony instead? *trying to make light of a horrible situation on no sleep and a lot of caffeine, so I will apologize now and save myself some time, I'm so sorry*

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In the marriage of C and D (falsely called C). (Brisbane Family Court) : Held: that an Intersex entity cannot marry anyone of either sex, as they are neither man nor woman, and marriage is between a man and a woman.


I'm used to it. In my case, my species was questioned based on purely biological test results. Whether I was a person deserving of civil rights was not, that question would never arise in the minds of my thoroughly professional, competent and caring medical team.

Wow. Now, THAT is vile.
Another reason I am glad to live on this side of the Atlantic. And to think the judges that took those decisions are supposed to be from the enlightened part of the population (or, at least, educated).
We are lucky to have a the ECHR around (European Court of Human Rights), who decided some times ago that a transsexual person should have her/his civil informations changed to reflect the change of sex.
Still work to be done, though.

Quite... one of the few European ideas we could stand to import over here.
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Well, it certainly makes any comments on the vanished strip pretty incomprehensible.

It might be a cliché, but the greens are best for Claire. The slinky pinky is terrible.
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Claire looks awesome in the first green dress. I like the one she ended up with, but I'd love to see her appear in the green one, too. Most of the others are less impressive, though both the red one and the "too plain" one look OK.
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The green (#1) is nice but slightly cliche for a redhead.  Likewise, #2 could be made to work, but...
Fully agree on the grey sack (#3) and the pink... thing (#4).
I actually rather like the turquoise number (#5) that Claire considers "Meh."
Nothing more need be said of the Bjork-swan (#6).
I can see why she went with the blue (#7)... even though the Pretty Pink Princess look (#8) is adorable on her.
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Claire looks awesome in the first green dress. I like the one she ended up with, but I'd love to see her appear in the green one, too. Most of the others are less impressive, though both the red one and the "too plain" one look OK.

Red hair / green dress is a very striking choice. Jeph does seem to like blue dresses. IIRC Hannelore wore a (beautiful!) blue dress on her "date" with Sven.
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I actually rather like the turquoise number (#5) that Claire considers "Meh."

She probably thinks the embroidered bust is a bit old-lady-ish.

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the Pretty Pink Princess look (#8) is adorable on her.

Note how she is blushing at her guilty pleasure in it.
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IIRC Hannelore wore a (beautiful!) blue dress on her "date" with Sven.
Yes. Yes she did.

1. Not a bad choice, actually.
2. Better for a classy cocktail party than a wedding, I'd say.
3. Plain? There'd be more interest and excitement in a school of accountancy...
4. Agreed.
5. Actually surprised she didn't go with that. Pretty darn classy.
6. :psyduck:
7. Probably would be a number 2 choice, if it were me.
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One and five would have warranted a second look (and a cuff to the back of the head had I stared while Mrs Reiver was about).
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Hmm...

1. Looks good on her, but yes, green on a redhead is a cliché. Mind you, it's as common as it is because it looks good.
2. Could work in the right scenario. The wedding is the wrong scenario.
3. Yeah, it's got the burlap sack thing going on. The color works on her, though.
4. Agreed, Claire. I can't figure out exactly the image I'm getting, but it's not a good one, and it's not just the pink. Almost like it doesn't look anywhere near feminine enough (and given that it's Claire, that's even worse) despite the pink, actually, although I could almost see Dora wearing it.
5. Agreed. It just seems like it doesn't go with her well.
6. LOLWUT
7. That works, too. (I think #1 looks better on her, but that's just me.)
8. Yeah, no, upstaging the couple is a bad idea, Claire.

And now I've just commented on the appearance of dresses on a fictional character in a webcomic. Welp, there goes my dignity.
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Also, trying new beers is half the reason to order there and half the fun in drinking beer. That said, I can give you recommendations based on what you like and sites like Beer Advocate and RateBeer are quite helpful in determining whether a beer is good and/or popular.

You should start a beer appreciation thread over in "ENJOY"

Edit:  Too late - I see it's in CHATTER. 
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Also, trying new beers is half the reason to order there and half the fun in drinking beer. That said, I can give you recommendations based on what you like and sites like Beer Advocate and RateBeer are quite helpful in determining whether a beer is good and/or popular.

You should start a beer appreciation thread over in "ENJOY"

Edit:  Too late - I see it's in CHATTER.
That's where the No Sober and Whisk(e)y threads are too so I figured it fit there. And feel free to join in, even if you haven't yet enjoyed the many wonders of craft beer. :-P
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Since this is no longer available on the web, or in the tumblr, i'm just gonna post it here in case someone wants to save it or something  :angel: :

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 Entitled "RobotFightPanel".

 Seeya.-

Wait, come back! Is there an archive of these hidden ones? (One that doesn't give me a 403 error)?
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Somehow I don't see the beer and whisk(e)y threads quite fitting in with the rest of the enjoy category.



An archive of odd comics?  I'm not aware of one, though I haven't checked in the wiki; there are links to a number just scattered around, and probably impossible to find conveniently.  There aren't many, anyway - and the most interesting are probably ones that were changed after first publication (like the fireworks one in which Sweet Tits and Yelling Bird changed places).
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Somehow I don't see the beer and whisk(e)y threads quite fitting in with the rest of the enjoy category.
That's why they're in chatter :-P
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Well, it certainly makes any comments on the vanished strip pretty incomprehensible.

It might be a cliché, but the greens are best for Claire. The slinky pinky is terrible.
I wonder how that would look in black though... nah, her colouring's wrong for it.
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Well, it certainly makes any comments on the vanished strip pretty incomprehensible.

It might be a cliché, but the greens are best for Claire. The slinky pinky is terrible.
I wonder how that would look in black though... nah, her colouring's wrong for it.

Doesn't look like a flattering fit for her, either. She isn't exactly curvy, and a dress like that sort of demands some curves. Still, it's the colour that really kills it.
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Just my two cents: #3 is something she might wear to work at the library, but not to a wedding. #4 is the wrong color for her, but if it was black I think it would look great. Slinky black dresses are hard to beat. #7 is probably her best bet for the wedding (which is obviously why she chose it.) #8... Well, let's just say I'm not partial to grown women in frilly princess dresses and leave it at that.
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