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Which version did you like best?

Even though he TOOK THE BEST YEARS of MY LIFE and THREW IT ALL AWAY.
- 13 (13.1%)
(Throw in something about being an amazing lover)
- 9 (9.1%)
Love can be a complicated thing.
- 1 (1%)
There was bitterness. Recrinimiation. Pain. But love was still there.
- 10 (10.1%)
Sorry for going off-script.
- 4 (4%)
Does he still get to flip the table?
- 25 (25.3%)
I'm waiting for Marten's speech.
- 5 (5.1%)
Claire REALLY has to wonder about Marten's parents.
- 13 (13.1%)
ALL the FEELS!
- 19 (19.2%)

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Author Topic: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 79277 times)

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LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison. ;D

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method. :P
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There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.
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Reading today's comic was like listening to me speak in public.
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There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.

So it's um......erm....uh....that other chick's turn after this arc? Like that one daughter in Downton Abbey. Um.....er.......Ethel? Elizabeth?
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Gabby? Probably not. I mean, she and Emily will still show up, but they'll probably be side characters, maybe Steve/Cosette level or so.
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Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

 :psyduck:

O tempora!  O mores!
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Oh Mighty Netram Deer, Great Orator of our time, please to humble us with the wordmaking of the mouth-thoughts. Jah.

And Ostriches. :mrgreen:
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this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....
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this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....

 No, they have different names.
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LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison. ;D

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method. :P

Yep, the old "face to the fists" method (victim's face to bullies' fists) - applied repeatedly. As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.
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As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol." ;D

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY :mrgreen:
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And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.
March 1958 here.

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Could have gone with:

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As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol." ;D

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY :mrgreen:

I was about to disagree with you, then I went back and read the comic again. Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.
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Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"
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Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.
I thought less was more here. I'm with Veronica on this one.
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Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"
I thought they accidentally brought him fish. "Accidente soles".
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I used to annoy the hell out of a particular bartender by insisting on calling Tullamore Dew "the Great Orator."

It was after I'd heard it abbreviated enough times as "Tully."
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What IS his style for scaring off bullies?


Stop sign to the head. Or sword, as the case may be.

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MAWWAGE! Mawwage is what bwings us togevvah today!

I instantly thought that as well.


Anyway, Marten should have really prepared a speech. Maybe not prepared in full, but something to say. I mean he could have expected people wanted him to speak, him being the presumably closest blood relative. Unless the unnamed uncle is Henry's brother.
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His speech could have been worse.

Sadly, Marten, I know the feeling. Public speaking, polite conversation... although witty banter does still function sometimes.

And, from before, I'm a comparative young-un. June of '83.
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You know, if he had pulled out the Princess Bride he definitely could have saved that speech I think

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Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.

Redball and I will join you.

I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

EDIT: Though I'm not old enough to be Jeph's daddy, thankfully.

Feb of '69.

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Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

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Sept 53. And really disappointed that I'm not the oldest.
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I approve of saucy Claire.
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I dunno about saucy, but slightly suave snarker Claire is very nice.
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CLAIRE has LEVELED UP!

CLAIRE gains SNARK +1!
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Agree on Claire looking very sharp in that last panel. I like it. (Generally like that look on women.)
Agree on Claire no longer being "just an intern at Marten's workplace" after this arc. (except when Jeph pulls a Willis and kills her off slightly.)

Damn fine strip today. Although if Marten EVER wants to go on stage and not make a mumbling ass of himself he should learn how to publicly improvise. Jeeez, son, you're not 16 anymore. °O
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He works (part time?) at a library and plays in a band. 


He is SO 16. 
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when Jeph pulls a Willis

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I recently gave a speech on a few hours notice, with visuals. I heard quacking and babbling in a voice that sounded like mine but was told I did a fine job. I can only conclude most of the drinking was done before I got there.
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[Snip]  By the end of this arc, she will have either agreed to go on a date with Marten or will have permanently and irrevocably earned her stripes in his circle of friends. [snip]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans? So far I'm not entirely sure what that means... for her...

If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.
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Hi, I see you're new here!  You might want to read up a bit in some of the other threads about transgendered issues and language usage. 


Meanwhile, enjoy your stay! 
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She's oriented toward men, Marten realizes that it would be unethical to date an intern, and I have learned recently that it is extraordinarily rude to speculate about a real trans person's genitals. We have been invited to practice being polite with Claire even though she's fictional.

Marten is just the sort who would be potentially open-minded, though.

Probably not foreshadowing.
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Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

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O tempora!  O mores!


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If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.

Subtle. ;)

It's not like transwomen date gay guys, though, so I wouldn't see it being a sure deal-breaker if he fancied her either way. I don't think it's really been explored how open he'd be to that, so we just don't know (and if Jeph goes in that direction then clearly he'd be fine with it). *Shrugs*

Probably not foreshadowing.

If only it was that simple, Marten..  :-P

It's pretty weird to see the assumptions people make about how humans work. I mean, it's not like those hormones are unique to us or anything.
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I was thinking along the lines of 18.
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Although, there are still other ways for a couple that is opposed to anal sex and incapable of having vaginal sex to have sexual intimacy...

I honestly doubt Marten would be open-minded enough for it, though. And, as Jeph's basically said he doesn't want to write that sort of conflict (I forget the exact wording), I doubt he'll do more than play with the ship.
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I wish you hadn't reminded me of the joke you just reminded me of. It's one that just might gross out Yelling Bird.

Marten may have had some hangups in high school.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans?



Claire is indeed transsexual.  A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Oddly, "a transgender" isn't seen as too bad, though again, "a transgender girl" is preferred. "A girl" is better still.
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I was thinking along the lines of 18.

I fail to see how the core tenet applies. What sort of barbarian do you take her for?

And I can't say how much time has passed in-universe, but that was written ten years ago (I was still a pre-teen).  :psyduck:

Marten may have had some hangups in high school.

Drag-queens ≠ Transgender people..

Claire is indeed transsexual.  A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Yeah, I elected to not include a bit on it. It's really more of a grammatical thing. It's an adjective, so it's either "X is black" or "X is a black person", whilst people would look oddly at "X is a black". Just took it as a quirk of typing.

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Well, Tai seems upset by all of this. 

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Tai's a DJ off hours, isn't she? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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That feel when you've read the comic within minutes of it coming out, and now you have to wait another 24 hours.

Why can't Jeph release comics hourly?!

(kidding of course)
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