Topic: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 79368 times)

WAYF · « **Reply #100 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 22:16 »

LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison.

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #101 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 22:32 »

Quote from: HeavyP on 12 Mar 2013, 21:50

There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.

This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.

Sorflakne · « **Reply #102 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 22:43 »

Reading today's comic was like listening to me speak in public.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #103 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 22:59 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 22:32

Quote from: HeavyP on 12 Mar 2013, 21:50
There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.

So it's um......erm....uh....that other chick's turn after this arc? Like that one daughter in Downton Abbey. Um.....er.......Ethel? Elizabeth?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #104 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:01 »

Gabby? Probably not. I mean, she and Emily will still show up, but they'll probably be side characters, maybe Steve/Cosette level or so.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #105 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:15 »

Quote from: Ph2 on 12 Mar 2013, 21:57

Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

O tempora! O mores!

Bluesummers · « **Reply #106 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:24 »

Oh Mighty Netram Deer, Great Orator of our time, please to humble us with the wordmaking of the mouth-thoughts. Jah.

And Ostriches.

Mharris · « **Reply #107 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:26 »

this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....

K1dmor · « **Reply #108 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:32 »

Quote from: Mharris on 12 Mar 2013, 23:26

this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....

No, they have different names.

themacnut · « **Reply #109 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:35 »

Quote from: WAYF on 12 Mar 2013, 22:16

LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison.

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method.

Yep, the old "face to the fists" method (victim's face to bullies' fists) - applied repeatedly. As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

Bluesummers · « **Reply #110 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:40 »

Quote from: themacnut on 12 Mar 2013, 23:35

As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol."

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY

ZoeB · « **Reply #111 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:47 »

Quote from: Redball on 12 Mar 2013, 10:26

And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.

March 1958 here.

Recent photo

It heartens me that my students have expressions of disbelief when I tell them my age.

Arancaytar · « **Reply #112 on:** 12 Mar 2013, 23:51 »

Could have gone with:

Quote

MAWWAGE! Mawwage is what bwings us togevvah today!

themacnut · « **Reply #113 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:01 »

Quote from: Bluesummers on 12 Mar 2013, 23:40

Quote from: themacnut on 12 Mar 2013, 23:35
As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol."

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY

I was about to disagree with you, then I went back and read the comic again. Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #114 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:08 »

Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"

ZoeB · « **Reply #115 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:09 »

Quote from: themacnut on 13 Mar 2013, 00:01

Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.

I thought less was more here. I'm with Veronica on this one.

ZoeB · « **Reply #116 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:15 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 00:08

Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"

I thought they accidentally brought him fish. "Accidente soles".

Near Lurker · « **Reply #117 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:19 »

I used to annoy the hell out of a particular bartender by insisting on calling Tullamore Dew "the Great Orator."

It was after I'd heard it abbreviated enough times as "Tully."

Loki · « **Reply #118 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 00:46 »

Quote from: WAYF on 12 Mar 2013, 22:16

What IS his style for scaring off bullies?

Stop sign to the head. Or sword, as the case may be.

Quote from: Arancaytar on 12 Mar 2013, 23:51

Could have gone with:

Quote
MAWWAGE! Mawwage is what bwings us togevvah today!

I instantly thought that as well.

Anyway, Marten should have really prepared a speech. Maybe not prepared in full, but something to say. I mean he could have expected people wanted him to speak, him being the presumably closest blood relative. Unless the unnamed uncle is Henry's brother.

pwhodges · « **Reply #119 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 01:24 »

Quote from: Loki on 13 Mar 2013, 00:46

Stop sign to the head. Or sword, as the case may be.

Hey, give him credit for the soufflé pan!

TinPenguin · « **Reply #120 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 02:05 »

ANYWAY. Ma-mawwiage! Yes! Twu wuv!

techkid · « **Reply #121 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 03:12 »

His speech could have been worse.

Sadly, Marten, I know the feeling. Public speaking, polite conversation... although witty banter does still function sometimes.

And, from before, I'm a comparative young-un. June of '83.

Tai Fanboi · « **Reply #122 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 04:16 »

You know, if he had pulled out the Princess Bride he definitely could have saved that speech I think

Border Reiver · « **Reply #123 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 04:20 »

Quote from: jwhouk on 12 Mar 2013, 07:43

Quote from: Border Reiver on 12 Mar 2013, 04:34
Quote from: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 12 Mar 2013, 01:38
Dang. Some of you people are YOUNG.

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.

Redball and I will join you.

I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

EDIT: Though I'm not old enough to be Jeph's daddy, thankfully.

Feb of '69.

pwhodges · « **Reply #124 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 05:28 »

NB - people putting their ages, note the poll in the 'Hi I'm New' forum.

Nepiophage · « **Reply #125 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 05:31 »

Quote from: Near Lurker on 12 Mar 2013, 23:15

Quote from: Ph2 on 12 Mar 2013, 21:57
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

O tempora! O mores!

Lorem ipsum consectetur!

Sept 53. And really disappointed that I'm not the oldest.

judemorrigan · « **Reply #126 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 06:38 »

I approve of saucy Claire.

RedWolf4 · « **Reply #127 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 07:18 »

I dunno about saucy, but slightly suave snarker Claire is very nice.

jwhouk · « **Reply #128 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 07:23 »

CLAIRE has LEVELED UP!

CLAIRE gains SNARK +1!

Soulsynger · « **Reply #129 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 07:54 »

Agree on Claire looking very sharp in that last panel. I like it. (Generally like that look on women.)
Agree on Claire no longer being "just an intern at Marten's workplace" after this arc. (except when Jeph pulls a Willis and kills her off slightly.)

Damn fine strip today. Although if Marten EVER wants to go on stage and not make a mumbling ass of himself he should learn how to publicly improvise. Jeeez, son, you're not 16 anymore. °O

Carl-E · « **Reply #130 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 08:24 »

He works (part time?) at a library and plays in a band.

He is SO 16.

Lubricus · « **Reply #131 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 10:06 »

Quote from: Soulsynger on 13 Mar 2013, 07:54

when Jeph pulls a Willis

BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS!

DSL · « **Reply #132 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 15:58 »

I recently gave a speech on a few hours notice, with visuals. I heard quacking and babbling in a voice that sounded like mine but was told I did a fine job. I can only conclude most of the drinking was done before I got there.

Po1ntBlank · « **Reply #133 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 16:23 »

Quote from: HeavyP on 12 Mar 2013, 21:50

[Snip] By the end of this arc, she will have either agreed to go on a date with Marten or will have permanently and irrevocably earned her stripes in his circle of friends. [snip]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans? So far I'm not entirely sure what that means... for her...

If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.

Carl-E · « **Reply #134 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 16:37 »

Hi, I see you're new here! You might want to read up a bit in some of the other threads about transgendered issues and language usage.

Meanwhile, enjoy your stay!

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #135 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 16:38 »

She's oriented toward men, Marten realizes that it would be unethical to date an intern, and I have learned recently that it is extraordinarily rude to speculate about a real trans person's genitals. We have been invited to practice being polite with Claire even though she's fictional.

Marten is just the sort who would be potentially open-minded, though.

Probably not foreshadowing.

Kugai · « **Reply #136 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 16:55 »

Quote from: Nepiophage on 13 Mar 2013, 05:31

Quote from: Near Lurker on 12 Mar 2013, 23:15
Quote from: Ph2 on 12 Mar 2013, 21:57
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

O tempora! O mores!

Lorem ipsum consectetur!

Sept 53. And really disappointed that I'm not the oldest.

Gopher Tuna

Marten, I feel your pain

~~Valdís~~ · « **Reply #137 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 17:33 »

Quote from: Po1ntBlank on 13 Mar 2013, 16:23

If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.

Subtle.

It's not like transwomen date gay guys, though, so I wouldn't see it being a sure deal-breaker if he fancied her either way. I don't think it's really been explored how open he'd be to that, so we just don't know (and if Jeph goes in that direction then clearly he'd be fine with it). *Shrugs*

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 16:38

Probably not foreshadowing.

If only it was that simple, Marten..

It's pretty weird to see the assumptions people make about how humans work. I mean, it's not like those hormones are unique to us or anything.

~~mustang6172~~ · « **Reply #138 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 18:51 »

I was thinking along the lines of 18.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #139 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 19:13 »

Although, there are still other ways for a couple that is opposed to anal sex and incapable of having vaginal sex to have sexual intimacy...

I honestly doubt Marten would be open-minded enough for it, though. And, as Jeph's basically said he doesn't want to write that sort of conflict (I forget the exact wording), I doubt he'll do more than play with the ship.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #140 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 19:48 »

I wish you hadn't reminded me of the joke you just reminded me of. It's one that just might gross out Yelling Bird.

Marten may have had some hangups in high school.

Quote from: a Spider Robinson character

I see fingers and a tongue. Anything else is gravy.

ZoeB · « **Reply #141 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 20:35 »

Quote from: Po1ntBlank on 13 Mar 2013, 16:23

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans?

Claire is indeed transsexual. A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Oddly, "a transgender" isn't seen as too bad, though again, "a transgender girl" is preferred. "A girl" is better still.

~~Valdís~~ · « **Reply #142 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 20:56 »

Quote from: mustang6172 on 13 Mar 2013, 18:51

I was thinking along the lines of 18.

I fail to see how the core tenet applies. What sort of barbarian do you take her for?

And I can't say how much time has passed in-universe, but that was written ten years ago (I was still a pre-teen).

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 19:48

Marten may have had some hangups in high school.

Drag-queens ≠ Transgender people..

Quote from: ZoeB on 13 Mar 2013, 20:35

Claire is indeed transsexual. A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Yeah, I elected to not include a bit on it. It's really more of a grammatical thing. It's an adjective, so it's either "X is black" or "X is a black person", whilst people would look oddly at "X is a black". Just took it as a quirk of typing.

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #143 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:02 »

Careful Dora, Tai might associate your boobs with projectile vomiting. Or possibly a strong sense of regret.

celticgeek · « **Reply #144 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:02 »

Well, Tai seems upset by all of this.

Redball · « **Reply #145 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:09 »

Tai's a DJ off hours, isn't she? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Po1ntBlank · « **Reply #146 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:18 »

That feel when you've read the comic within minutes of it coming out, and now you have to wait another 24 hours.

Why can't Jeph release comics hourly?!

(kidding of course)

Sorflakne · « **Reply #147 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:31 »

Boobs are awesome.

~~mustang6172~~ · « **Reply #148 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:32 »

Boobs: the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.

Po1ntBlank · « **Reply #149 on:** 13 Mar 2013, 21:36 »

Quote from: mustang6172 on 13 Mar 2013, 21:32

Boobs: the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.

I believe you're thinking of alcohol.

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