Topic: Detective Comics Cinematic Universe (formerly Man of Steel) (Read 185334 times)

LeeC · « **on:** 22 Apr 2013, 09:31 »

So we all know this is coming out soon, but I felt that it deserved its own thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6DJcgm3wNY

looks good. Zod looks to be the villain instead of lex luthor, which is a good idea. Small gripe about krypton not having a red sun but w/e. Any thoughts?

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 10:00 »

I'm hoping it's gonna be good, since it would lead into a Justice League movie, but Superman hasn't had the greatest track record outside of cartoons lately. I don't have a lot of faith in Snyder, but Nolan has his name on it.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #2 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 12:03 »

I've got a lot more hope for this one than anything not Batman they've done simply because they seem to be exploring the themes that make Superman not terrible. Superman as the Messianic figure and the very real consequences of having a god existing within society. That and he seems to be based on Golden Age Labour Supes and not Murrica Supes. Outside of stuff like Red Son and Kingdom Come, DC hasn't done much to explore these themes in the serials for a pretty damn long while.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 14:05 »

I for one am highly excited for the Man of Steel Rises

mtmerrick · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 14:59 »

It looks good - better than pretty much any DC movie I can think of - but still not marvel good.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 15:07 »

It's not, ah...marvellous?

Masterpiece · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 15:12 »

I see a very clear distinction between the two. DC movies (or at least, the post-Nolan movies) tended to deal with themes that were very extreme and much more mature than the marvel movies ever did. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Marvel movies, but The Dark Knight is unmatched in my opinion.
Or lets put it this way, Heath Ledger is unmatched.

mtmerrick · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 19:04 »

I'm sorry, but I can't even hear "batman" anymore. My brain does this now:

Kugai · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 23:07 »

Hmmmm

Definitely looks worth going seeing.

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 Apr 2013, 19:16 »

I'm in two minds about this.
On the one hand, it's probably going to be good.
But the other hand, I've never really liked Superman, neither the comics nor the films. For a number of reasons, and to be honest, I'd rather not get into them right now.

LeeC · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 Apr 2013, 08:21 »

haha someone redid the trailer using superman the animated series.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 May 2013, 10:08 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 22 Apr 2013, 12:03

Red Son

I still need to read Kingdom Come, but I would be so happy if they made a movie based on Red Son.

LeeC · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 May 2013, 14:40 »

Conan cracks me up.

Edguy · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 May 2013, 14:51 »

For someone who hasn't really read any superhero comics, I'm a pretty big fan of superhero stories

As much as I like Marvel's MCU, I find DC much more interesting. Marvel play it safe, and every movie is a pretty safe, fun blockbuster. DC seems to aim a little higher, and much more mature, which is a big plus--if it works.

Can't really remember any film I've looked forward to as much as Man of Steel, the trailers and soundtrack samples seems really promising, and if they succeed at launching a shard universe with this kind of quality and maturity, then I'm really excited for the future of superhero movies!

Kugai · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 May 2013, 19:36 »

Quote from: LeeC on 21 May 2013, 14:40

Conan cracks me up.

Frakin' hell O'Brien, get a damned grip!!!!!

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 May 2013, 19:46 »

Sorry Conan, you are wrong. In an episode of Superman: The Animated Series it shows Clark shaving using his heat vision and a mirror to pin point it.

LeeC · « **Reply #16 on:** 21 May 2013, 19:51 »

honestly its conan making fun of people's youtube response videos. i.e. this is a joke.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #17 on:** 22 May 2013, 08:22 »

I know, I just wanted to put my nerd glasses on and hike up my pants.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 May 2013, 10:51 »

I never thought that at any point in my life, I'd be excited for a Superman film.

LeeC · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 May 2013, 11:47 »

nerdgasms all over the place!

Skaltura · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 May 2013, 17:42 »

This is not in 3D right, oh dear god please let it be 2D, I may finally be able to watch a movie in a cinema again.

/edit: A quick explanation

There's only one cinema in Berlin that shows big Hollywood movies (i.e. superheroes) in their original language (Cinestar Original, Sony Centre), and they've stopped showing 2D versions of 3D movies altogether for about 3 years now, so pretty all I was able to watch was Nolan's Batman and Iron Man 1 and 2. Couldn't even watch The Hobbit cause fuck you 3D. Fucking fuckers .. fuck.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 May 2013, 17:56 »

The Hobbit is the only 3D movie I've seen lately because they didn't offer the 48FPS version in 2D.

Edguy · « **Reply #22 on:** 02 Jun 2013, 08:25 »

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/user9658153/man-of-steel-an-ideal-of-hope[/soundcloud]

LTK · « **Reply #23 on:** 02 Jun 2013, 16:14 »

Quote from: Skaltura on 22 May 2013, 17:42

This is not in 3D right, oh dear god please let it be 2D, I may finally be able to watch a movie in a cinema again.

/edit: A quick explanation

There's only one cinema in Berlin that shows big Hollywood movies (i.e. superheroes) in their original language (Cinestar Original, Sony Centre), and they've stopped showing 2D versions of 3D movies altogether for about 3 years now, so pretty all I was able to watch was Nolan's Batman and Iron Man 1 and 2. Couldn't even watch The Hobbit cause fuck you 3D. Fucking fuckers .. fuck.

http://www.getdigital.de/products/2D-Brille ?

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #24 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 00:06 »

Yeah still optimistic about this

Edguy · « **Reply #25 on:** 13 Jun 2013, 11:16 »

Mixed reviews so far.. 55/100 on Metacritic and 60 % on Rotten Tomatoes..

It looks sort of like the reactions to Watchmen, which I really liked, so I'm crossing my fingers. Mildly disappointed the reviews aren't better though..

LeeC · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 Jun 2013, 11:22 »

This guy has been pretty spot on as far as my tastes go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG4YE0w3UMs

Edguy · « **Reply #27 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 05:13 »

Yeah, seems like the film struggles a little with the pacing.

Skaltura · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 11:41 »

Soooo, I just checked, 3D only, well, looks like I might have a few extra bucks to spend on the Steam summer sale.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 12:15 »

At all the theaters near you?

Skaltura · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 12:25 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2013, 12:15

At all the theaters near you?

Quote from: Skaltura on 22 May 2013, 17:42

There's only one cinema in Berlin that shows big Hollywood movies (i.e. superheroes) in their original language (Cinestar Original, Sony Centre)

Method of Madness · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 12:29 »

Ah. Do you dislike 3D that much or is the few extra Euro that make it not worth it?

Skaltura · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 12:32 »

I despise it like the fucking eye cancer it is.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Jun 2013, 21:41 »

Saw it today. I kinda liked it.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #34 on:** 15 Jun 2013, 00:15 »

That was pretty damn good. I was surprised. Superman movies are supposed to suck! This one was good! I am lost, my world inverted.

Edguy · « **Reply #35 on:** 15 Jun 2013, 08:59 »

Quote from: GarandMarine on 15 Jun 2013, 00:15

Superman movies are supposed to suck!

Method of Madness · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 Jun 2013, 13:53 »

Quote from: GarandMarine on 15 Jun 2013, 00:15

Live-action Superman movies are supposed to suck!

Lupercal · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 03:10 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 21 May 2013, 19:46

Sorry Conan, you are wrong. In an episode of Superman: The Animated Series it shows Clark shaving using his heat vision and a mirror to pin point it.

99.99% sure this also happens in Lois & Clark TV series. Anybody watch that? I got through the first couple of seasons, its actually very watchable for a slightly cheesy 90s TV series as it is. John Shea's Lex Luthor is probably the best I've seen (tied with Gene Hackman?). I need to give Smallville a chance, although its what, 10 seasons long?

K1dmor · « **Reply #38 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 03:20 »

Quote from: Lupercal on 16 Jun 2013, 03:10

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 21 May 2013, 19:46
Sorry Conan, you are wrong. In an episode of Superman: The Animated Series it shows Clark shaving using his heat vision and a mirror to pin point it.

99.99% sure this also happens in Lois & Clark TV series.

Superman shaving IRL and animated version:

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #39 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 04:56 »

I have a comic book where he uses an electric shaver to throw people off by leaving it turned on while he heat-visions his face.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #40 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 05:32 »

I wish I could shave that fast. Shaving's annoying.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #41 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 07:48 »

Quote from: Lupercal on 16 Jun 2013, 03:10

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 21 May 2013, 19:46
Sorry Conan, you are wrong. In an episode of Superman: The Animated Series it shows Clark shaving using his heat vision and a mirror to pin point it.

99.99% sure this also happens in Lois & Clark TV series. Anybody watch that? I got through the first couple of seasons, its actually very watchable for a slightly cheesy 90s TV series as it is. John Shea's Lex Luthor is probably the best I've seen (tied with Gene Hackman?). I need to give Smallville a chance, although its what, 10 seasons long?

It was one of my first introductions to Superman, I still hold a place in my heart for Dean Cain

I saw Man of Steel last night and I thought it was ok. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. I'd probably saw it was a good movie, but not a good Superman movie. They definitely made it darker and I thought that the Krypton scenes went on for a little too long.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #42 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 08:32 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 16 Jun 2013, 07:48

I'd probably saw it was a good movie, but not a good Superman movie.

I always struggle to find this sort of sentence meaningful. It's like when people said Casino Royale was a good movie, but not a good Bond movie. Except if it's a good movie, and Superman/Bond are in it, then it's a good Superman/Bond movie, it doesn't stop being a Superman/Bond movie just because they use the character different from what you're used to.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #43 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 08:46 »

I think it means "By the standards of movies in general, it was good. By the standards of the movies about X (Superman/Bond), it was not as good as it could have been."

It wouldn't have lost out had it not been about Superman/Bond but was instead about some other super-powered humanoid alien/not-very-secret-at-all agent.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #44 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 08:48 »

Ah, so "a good movie, but not a good Superman movie" means "a good movie, but not good FOR a Superman movie". In which case I understand and very much disagree.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #45 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 08:55 »

I can't really say either way, not having seen it.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #46 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 11:55 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 08:48

Ah, so "a good movie, but not a good Superman movie" means "a good movie, but not good FOR a Superman movie". In which case I understand and very much disagree.

I concur, because having seen all the Superman movies, Man of Steel was the first decent one.

Edguy · « **Reply #47 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 12:08 »

I think it's pretty safe to say that Superman and Superman II were pretty good movies, regardless of how well they've held up for 35 years of aging.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #48 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 12:09 »

I would disagree with that for multiple reasons, but opinions and all that.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #49 on:** 16 Jun 2013, 12:11 »

Edguy - I haven't seen II, but if I do I'll probably watch the Donner Cut.

ackblom - Yes, opinions and all that. Doesn't mean you shouldn't share your reasons.

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