Topic: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 72742 times)

Method of Madness · « **Reply #50 on:** 06 May 2013, 10:28 »

I'd hardly call it hassling, these are important questions to ask when you're in a serious relationship.

Smallest · « **Reply #51 on:** 06 May 2013, 10:43 »

Agreed, Madness.

So does this mean there isn't a panel with Penelope angrily wanting to be balls deep in Faye? Because even though I don't ship that, it sounds hilarious and I'm kind of disappointed.

Madmartigan · « **Reply #52 on:** 06 May 2013, 10:44 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 10:28

I'd hardly call it hassling, these are important questions to ask when you're in a serious relationship.

I don't think Angus went about it smoothest of ways though. His response was basically a "well, why wouldn't you wanna move. The financial gain, etc." Kinda crass way to put that considering Hanners, Marten, and Dora are basically family to Faye. Really tight, close family and after that mess with her father, the seed of loss in her doesn't wanna be too far from them. And having that conversation in the middle of the night randomly. Wouldn't be my first choice.

Faye seems to like comfort and familiarity now.

Anyway, she'd probably irked because she wanted to know what Angus really wanted 5 years from now and he made a joke instead. That looks like a panic attack face on Faye in the last panel.

[I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight. Not that this as regressed to a fight yet, but they've been the "perfect couple" as it were to date. Bout time they had some drama in their relationship]

Anyway, on the 5 year thing. I think it is just laziness on the part of interviewers to ask it. Same for the retarded "what are you weaknesses" question. Really stupid question. Turns the focus onto what you suck at, rather than what you are really really good at.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #53 on:** 06 May 2013, 11:17 »

You actually make an interesting point that I hadn't thought of. This shows how little Angus really knows Faye.

rschill · « **Reply #54 on:** 06 May 2013, 11:33 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 11:17

You actually make an interesting point that I hadn't thought of. This shows how little Angus really knows Faye.

Yeah, come to think of it. A good situation with stable friends is not all that easy to find. She kinda lucked into Marten. And likewise for Marten. They were both rather lonely in the beginning of the strip. Now they have a nice sized circle of friends.

KOK · « **Reply #55 on:** 06 May 2013, 11:42 »

As I see it, Angus does answer the question. If he had said "with you", Faye might have felt bad for not saying that. So he phrases it in a humorous manner.

I don't think he was fishing for "with you" from Faye. If so, his follow up questions are very strange. When asked, he can not very well say "In New York". After what Faye has just said, that would imply "with or without you".

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #56 on:** 06 May 2013, 12:00 »

Quote from: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 10:44

[I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight. Not that this as regressed to a fight yet, but they've been the "perfect couple" as it were to date. Bout time they had some drama in their relationship]

On screen, they had the toilet seat fight, and the argument about music that Marten brought to a halt. Off screen, it's all but certain there have been others.

That was a deeply insightful point you made about Faye's need for a close circle of friends. Her answer still made me unhappy for her. Jeph has said that CoD pays barely enough to live on. It's not the sort of thing to make permanent, unless you're working for someone near retirement from whom you might inherit the shop, or are pursuing baristaness/baristahood/baristiture as your life's ars gratia artis.

(Is Coffee of Doom a baristocracy?)

westrim · « **Reply #57 on:** 06 May 2013, 12:31 »

I read as Angus's response to her initial blowoff as "you have so much potential and I want to see you achieve it."

Her answer doesn't indicate that her friends are the reason, so we can't assume that. All her answer really suggests is the recurring theme of her being aimless and unmotivated.

The assumption that he asked out of the blue in the middle of the night has come up several times, but we have no idea what preceded this.

Her face looks more like "TMI!" than "PANIC!"

Interviewer questions about the future and weaknesses are more about looking for how you can turn things around- when they ask about the future, they want to know what you'll do in the present, and they ask about your weaknesses to see how you overcome them.

No, CoD is a dictatorship with baristasants.

TimO · « **Reply #58 on:** 06 May 2013, 12:38 »

Quote from: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 10:44

... Hanners, Marten, and Dora are basically family to Faye. Really tight, close family and after that mess with her father, the seed of loss in her doesn't wanna be too far from them ... Faye seems to like comfort and familiarity now ...

Exactly, Faye hasn't particularly had an easy time of it, with her father especially, so the relative current stability, and closeness is likely to be something she'll value, and doesn't want to lose, even if she could be making more money. This may not be an entirely conscious thought, but it's likely that the thought of loosing any of that (and she doesn't need to move, or change friends) is not going to generate a positive response, although it may start her thinking about things.

The others in the story aren't necessarily paragons of financial stability either, Marten and Marigold both have made significant expenditures, albeit on Momo's new chassis in Marigold's case which is slightly more sensible than Marten's instruments.

Quote from: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 10:44

... And having that conversation in the middle of the night randomly ... Anyway, she'd probably irked because she wanted to know what Angus really wanted 5 years from now and he made a joke instead. ...

That was spectacularly stupid of Angus to refuse to answer her, when she replied in a reasonable, if not ideal way, to his question, and he then choose to make light of it when she asked the same thing.

Quote from: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 10:44

... I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight ...

They did start off with some minor fighting in CoD, albeit being Angus' way to introduce himself to Faye, and her natural tendency to be sharp towards all of the customers, and especially any who tried to be clever back at her.

Having said that, most people manage to occasionally do stupid things in relationships, and phrase things in a less than optimal fashion. I certainly have, and I'm sure most of us on here have as well. Doing and saying stupid things, especially when lying in bed, and possibly not thinking quite as clearly as when fully awake, is just one of those facts of life, and which you normally regret later with a "why did I say that?". It also makes for a more exciting storyline.

Interviewers use questions like "Where do you want to be in five years" and "What are your weaknesses?" because they should invoke a certain sort of thoughtful response, although this sort of question is used so much now, that all it really does is demonstrate whether you've planned for the interview by coming up with a suitable answer prior to the interview (I know I would). It's not really a useful question any more, and just suggests an interviewer without much originality in their planning.

TimO · « **Reply #59 on:** 06 May 2013, 13:26 »

Quote from: TimO on 06 May 2013, 05:20

Back at 2006 Faye's hair is too long to easily see her ears, the next time we see her in 2016, it's cut slightly differently, and we can see her ears, and still can since it's continued to be styled similarly. ...

Someone posted a link to 1199 in another thread, and Faye has the double piercing in her right ear there as well, clearly visible in the second panel, so it has been around for quite a while.

Carl-E · « **Reply #60 on:** 06 May 2013, 13:44 »

On the "middle of the night" thing...

Please note that in the first few panels, Faye has her glasses on and is checking her phone (messages/email/whatever). This is not the middle of the night, this is settling in for the night. Not an unusual time to have a discussion and a few musings, and not an uncommon time at all to be thinking (worrying?) about the future.

Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her... or he just feels that they'd both have a better life there.

I don't think this is the beginning of the end or anything, but it's definitely an important question in a relationship that has been going on for a while. Some people never face it, and just go with the flow. But Angus isn't the type to avoid anything - he's facing it head on, rather like the way he courted Faye.

How long have they been dating now, anyway? They were wearing coats soon after it started (Fall?) and it's summer now - maybe 8 - 9 months or so?

That's serious territory...

Not as long as Wil and Penne, but getting there!

TinPenguin · « **Reply #61 on:** 06 May 2013, 14:36 »

I just wondered "how long have Wil and Penny been together?" and holy archive dive, it's almost half the history of the comic. In less than a hundred strips they'll overtake Dora and Marten.

Latias · « **Reply #62 on:** 06 May 2013, 14:57 »

Regarding the "balls deep" comment and Faye's reaction to it, I believe it is a reference to anal sex. I am asexual and thus not intimately familiar with sexual slang, but the context I've heard it used in before makes it sound very much like a term meant for anal sex. The reaction makes perfect sense if Faye finds anal sex disgusting or otherwise unappealing.

Quote from: tassaron on 06 May 2013, 06:12

(Although it's getting a bit funny how Tai and Dora hooked up only to be shuffled aside immediately...)

Of course. Marten is the primary focus of the comic, and two secondary characters suddenly being in a relationship doesn't change the overall focus to them. Tai and Dora's relationship is far from the first between secondary characters - in fact, there are three others currently ongoing (Faye/Angus, Will/Penelope, Steve/Cosette) which are all on the sidelines. That's just how the webcomic works.

Smallest · « **Reply #63 on:** 06 May 2013, 15:33 »

Quote from: Latias on 06 May 2013, 14:57

The reaction makes perfect sense if Faye finds anal sex disgusting or otherwise unappealing.

This interpretation makes sense but makes me sad, both because Faye is THAT opposed to anal and because Angus is joking about it despite her feelings.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #64 on:** 06 May 2013, 15:33 »

Dora is, on the other hand, the center of the social circle.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #65 on:** 06 May 2013, 15:34 »

Latias, don't be filthy, he's clearly talking about filling her jacuzzi with playpen balls and jumping in. (Seriously, though, it could mean any orifice I suppose, as long as one is sufficiently inserted.)

toffee-skye · « **Reply #66 on:** 06 May 2013, 15:37 »

i dreamt about Claire the other night.. very vividly. o.o

in other news: i do agree with those above, Angus wasn't very tactful with it. it seemed to smell a bit of "but there's all these positives to moving, what's WRONG with you?". seemed a bit accusatory, and whether or not that was what Jeph intended, that's how it came across. i'm with Faye on this one. bit of a fail on Angus' part.

Masterpiece · « **Reply #67 on:** 06 May 2013, 15:46 »

very vividly?
how vivid? are we talking bad accident in the morning vivid or "ZOMG I'M IN A DREAM WITH MY FAVOURITE CARTOON CHARACTER" vivid?

Loki · « **Reply #68 on:** 06 May 2013, 16:05 »

...what's the difference?

Quote from: Westrim on 06 May 2013, 12:31

No, CoD is a dictatorship with baristasants.

This reminds me of a joke.

The punchline is "The baristacrats".

Method of Madness · « **Reply #69 on:** 06 May 2013, 16:10 »

How'd they fit an entire espresso machine up there?

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #70 on:** 06 May 2013, 16:21 »

Which shop is known
for staff who show their claws?
Which shop has staff
who'll scowl and charge you more?
Which shop makes you wear
the little haaaaats?
Naturellement! The baristacrats!

Yes, I know that the shop isn't called...I'm tired and I knocked it out in about two minutes.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #71 on:** 06 May 2013, 16:25 »

Was that from the Baristacats?

Rghfrgl · « **Reply #72 on:** 06 May 2013, 17:19 »

Quote from: TinPenguin on 06 May 2013, 14:36

I just wondered "how long have Wil and Penny been together?" and holy archive dive, it's almost half the history of the comic. In less than a hundred strips they'll overtake Dora and Marten.

I think the allosaurus' got Penelope.

Tova · « **Reply #73 on:** 06 May 2013, 17:30 »

Quote from: Westrim on 06 May 2013, 07:28

There's so much projection going on in this thread we could show a movie!

Wow. I think I've found my new signature.

Moanerette · « **Reply #74 on:** 06 May 2013, 19:03 »

Some interesting thoughts.

It's not that I think that a couple shouldn't ever discuss the future, simply that dropping a glib question like that on someone who's about to go to sleep strikes me as rather asinine - and from her response, it seems that Faye thinks the same. It's unwelcome noise. Then when she tries to turn the tables, he cops out with a crude gag, despite her obviously being a bit rattled and not showing any signs of being 'in the mood'. No hanging offence, but somewhat irksome. Time and a place and all that. Am I projecting? Possibly, but I think it's a fair reading. Could be setting up an interesting storyline for these two, anyway.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #75 on:** 06 May 2013, 20:35 »

Didn't Marigold describe Angus as a good guy whose mouth gets ahead of his brain sometimes?

K1dmor · « **Reply #76 on:** 06 May 2013, 20:52 »

New comic.

Please tell me that:

(click to show/hide)

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #77 on:** 06 May 2013, 20:57 »

Dun dun dun!

Carl-E · « **Reply #78 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:00 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 13:44

Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her...

Holy crap!

~~mustang6172~~ · « **Reply #79 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:11 »

It's not enough for Angus to meet Stephen Colbert, he needs to be Stephen Colbert (by following a similar career path).

TheCollyWolly · « **Reply #80 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:14 »

angus noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I'll be sad if Jeph writes Angus out. I like him.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #81 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:29 »

Who is in New York for some reason?

Torlek · « **Reply #82 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:36 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 15:33

Dora is, on the other hand, the center of the social circle.

I'd say she was the center of the social circle and she was the initial hub that pulled everything together. Now that she's a secondary character again Marten is the center, both in terms of story and in terms of graph connectivity.

Tova · « **Reply #83 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:38 »

Angus really did miss a golden opportunity to bring this topic up with Faye in favour of making a joke... gah. I can only guess that after Faye's response, he was too nervous to actually tell her what he wants.

yay, miscommunication, hilarity ensues.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #84 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:39 »

Surely it's no longer hosted by Jon Steward, but John Olver.

(...wait, John Olver? Who gave him a show?)

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #85 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:41 »

Jeph said QC is in a quantum state superposing the current era and 2006.

It's not a prohibitive distance for a commuter relationship but that would be a real challenge to someone with abandonment issues like those of the Pugnacious Peach.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #86 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:44 »

The Nightly Show is, of course, aired every day at 10AM.

MillionDollar Belt Sander · « **Reply #87 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:50 »

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang

westrim · « **Reply #88 on:** 06 May 2013, 21:56 »

Quote from: Tova on 06 May 2013, 17:30

Quote from: Westrim on 06 May 2013, 07:28
There's so much projection going on in this thread we could show a movie!
Wow. I think I've found my new signature.

Glad I could help!

Quote from: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 21:00

Quote from: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 13:44
Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her...
Holy crap!

*Cough*

Quote from: Westrim on 06 May 2013, 07:28

Angus is planning on moving to NY. That's where the jobs are for him, and he clearly likes it there. He loves Faye, and he wants her to come with him and be with her, but if it comes down to staying put because of her neuroses or pursuing his dreams and unwillingness to grow up and face the future, dreams should win (being held back from pursuing the dreams would kill the love anyway). He wanted some variation of "with you," and since he didn't get it things aren't looking too good for them. Not thinking about the future is generally bad for the future, as any corporation paying cleanup costs can verify.

Smallest · « **Reply #89 on:** 06 May 2013, 22:20 »

As I just said aloud to boyfriend:
I think they should break up and he should do it because I don't think it would work for the cast to have a TV guy and I don't think Faye could do a long distance relationship and I don't think Faye should leave.

My sentence structure is much worse aloud, thus the ROS, but I stand by that. I don't think Faye leaving would be good, for the aforementioned reasons about her "family" and stable everything being there, and I think she would be bad at/unhappy in a long distance relationship. I also don't think Angus should stunt himself nor that a regular character should be a TV host, because the former is sad and the later is blah.

Of course, perhaps they would agree he should try, and he would fail, and it would be fine.

ETA- Good job to the guessers!

Loki · « **Reply #90 on:** 06 May 2013, 22:30 »

I predict that Angus is going to ask someone for advice.

Maybe Steve who is going to offer him some cereal.

Kugai · « **Reply #91 on:** 06 May 2013, 22:48 »

The plot thickens

westrim · « **Reply #92 on:** 06 May 2013, 23:04 »

Quote from: Kugai on 06 May 2013, 22:48

The plot thickens

Nah, that's just the oatmeal.

bunnyThor · « **Reply #93 on:** 06 May 2013, 23:12 »

Buh-Bye, Angus!

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Hope to hear from you never!

Soulsynger · « **Reply #94 on:** 06 May 2013, 23:19 »

Quote from: bunnyThor on 06 May 2013, 23:12

Buh-Bye, Angus!
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Hope to hear from you never!

Someone is handling this much better than they should.

@Comic:
So "the city" was NY. Huh.

TimO · « **Reply #95 on:** 07 May 2013, 00:50 »

Quote from: bunnyThor on 06 May 2013, 23:12

Buh-Bye, Angus!

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Hope to hear from you never!

... but that would not be good for Faye, since as others have said, she probably has abandonment issues, so Angus leaving her for a job in NY would probably make her unhappy, and I like a happy Faye!

The alternative is Angus not doing that, and being resentful towards Faye for limiting his career choices (although if he had intentions in that direction, you would kind of wonder why he's not somewhere like NY already).

Heh, it'll make for some interesting developments either way, but I don't want to see Faye going back to her old sarcy character, even if that probably works better for the strip!

ChaoSera · « **Reply #96 on:** 07 May 2013, 01:06 »

Quote from: TimO on 07 May 2013, 00:50

Quote from: bunnyThor on 06 May 2013, 23:12
Buh-Bye, Angus!

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Hope to hear from you never!

... but that would not be good for Faye, since as others have said, she probably has abandonment issues, so Angus leaving her for a job in NY would probably make her unhappy, and I like a happy Faye!

The alternative is Angus not doing that, and being resentful towards Faye for limiting his career choices (although if he had intentions in that direction, you would kind of wonder why he's not somewhere like NY already).

Heh, it'll make for some interesting developments either way, but I don't want to see Faye going back to her old sarcy character, even if that probably works better for the strip!

He's always been interested in comedic acting.

Masterpiece · « **Reply #97 on:** 07 May 2013, 01:09 »

You know, I was just thinking, that strip is a huge FOREBODE if Angus were to leave for NYC in the end.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #98 on:** 07 May 2013, 01:28 »

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