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Re: Gunsmithing (no politics)
« Reply #350 on: 10 Oct 2014, 16:38 »

I believe I'm going to convert Nadine to a side charging AR configuration. I've never cared for the rear charging handle it. While I'm at it, I'm thinking of doing something different with the gas tube. I've never understand why, in the trade off for direct impingement, the standard gas tube is so thin walled and subject to mechanical damage. I can't seem to find an off the shelve heavy tube, thinking of making just a long block that doesnt translate into a tube until it joins the receiver. thoughts?
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« Reply #351 on: 11 Oct 2014, 19:38 »

If it works it works. It seems like it should... so lemme know how it goes?

I'm working on a new project for school in the research phase.
Mission: Ultra Optimized Mosin Nagant with iron sights aka The Hayha-Torni Special
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One nugget in as good condition as I can find mechanically.
Modern Hardwood Nagant Stock or good quality M91/30 stock, stripped or raw.*
Bedding compound
Timney Drop in Nagant Trigger

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Stock Refinish and Customization: Stock to 400 Grit Finish. Carving of Suomi flag and Hahya and Torni's names in Younger Futhark runes on the right side of the stock.
Stain, paint and refinish stock.
Pillar and Glass bed stock

Rifle optimization.
Replace ye olde school Nagant trigger with modern Timney trigger group
Lap lugs, check for burrs and tolerances on all surfaces, smooth and polish feed ramp
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Re: Gunsmithing (no politics)
« Reply #352 on: 11 Oct 2014, 20:05 »

we got M-Ns here for $150....
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« Reply #353 on: 11 Oct 2014, 20:57 »

Drop Mojo aperture sights on it, they really tune up a Mosin.
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« Reply #354 on: 11 Oct 2014, 23:01 »

I'm not sure I want to do that Noxx, Simo managed his 500 kills with the original equipment
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« Reply #355 on: 12 Oct 2014, 07:50 »

I'm not sure I want to do that Noxx, Simo managed his 500 kills with the original equipment

Which didn't include a nice hard stock with bedded pillars, or a match trigger either :P
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« Reply #356 on: 12 Oct 2014, 08:35 »

That's fair, but I want to tune and perfect the original design as best I can. I'll consider it though.
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« Reply #357 on: 12 Oct 2014, 08:46 »

That's fair, but I want to tune and perfect the original design as best I can. I'll consider it though.

With that in mind have you thought about just polishing and tuning the original trigger group? Fine tuning sear engagement would actually be wonderful practice for a future gunsmith.
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« Reply #358 on: 12 Oct 2014, 10:51 »

I have, but I think I want to replace the trigger group on that one. I'll tune the original trigger on my 1941 all matching
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« Reply #359 on: 12 Oct 2014, 10:58 »

I have, but I think I want to replace the trigger group on that one. I'll tune the original trigger on my 1941 all matching

Well it's certainly worth the money, I have a Timney in my "hog hunter" 91/59 and it's ideal. There is definitely some stock inletting work to installing it, but if you're bedding anyway it wont matter.

Boyds makes some excellent walnut Mosin stocks, FWIW

edit - browsing through Boyds new stuff, now they make a mosin stock thats already inlet for a Timney. woot.
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« Reply #360 on: 13 Oct 2014, 17:12 »



If you have to ask, rifle is fine.
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« Reply #361 on: 14 Oct 2014, 15:54 »



Metal restoration: Complete. Still working on the stock.
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« Reply #362 on: 14 Oct 2014, 23:57 »

Lookin good
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« Reply #363 on: 16 Oct 2014, 09:01 »

So my "as-issued" Garand should be shipping next week. I'm pretty damn concerned about it, since its value derives entirely from it's condition, not it's make or provenance or any of the factors I usually shop for. Sent the seller an e-mail this morning to see about the additional cost of just having a crate knocked up to ensure it's safety.
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« Reply #364 on: 20 Oct 2014, 09:51 »

MAKERS -

Ares is closing out their last generation 80% polymer lowers at $50 a unit, which last I checked includes jig and tooling for each unit. If you ever thought about a polymer milling project, this is the time to snap them up.
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« Reply #365 on: 21 Oct 2014, 21:35 »

I own a No.4 Mk1 Lee Enfield, dated 1942.  I call it "Uncle Winston".
Today a friend forwarded to me this sad news...
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2014/10/18/lack_of_spare_parts_triggers_the_end_for_old_reliable_leeenfield_rifle.html

there are many rifles like mine: this aint it.  Placed here as a visual cue.
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« Reply #366 on: 21 Oct 2014, 22:31 »

I am debating what kind of trouble I'll be in with the wife if I start allocating funds to build a modern long range rifle.
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« Reply #367 on: 23 Oct 2014, 22:35 »

When I was going around trying to find a machining bit I potentially needed today and people kept looking at me like I was insane for being able to MAKE stuff I think it finally dawned on me just how specialized machinist skills have become.
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« Reply #368 on: 24 Oct 2014, 08:49 »

When I was going around trying to find a machining bit I potentially needed today and people kept looking at me like I was insane for being able to MAKE stuff I think it finally dawned on me just how specialized machinist skills have become.

You ain't kidding. Real machinist, and old tool-and-die guys are in high demand. The old dudes I work with at the park ain't never at a loss for something to do, or a lot of money for doing it
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« Reply #369 on: 24 Oct 2014, 08:56 »

Apparently a decent manual lathe operator can pull high 5, low 6 starting. Even straight out of here.
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« Reply #370 on: 27 Oct 2014, 15:58 »



The fine, and painful to learn art of bolt jeweling produces a finish that many gun owners find attractive. The micro grooves the process creates can also help the bolt retain and channel oil better.
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« Reply #371 on: 29 Oct 2014, 15:11 »

Make me a 30 car gas nut wrench while you're fooling around and save me twenty bucks.

Did my first complete break down of the carbine I've had for years, thing was absolutely full of cosmo and fire hardened grease. Running about 1000% better now, but I'd like to decarb the gas piston anyway, just to make it complete.
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« Reply #372 on: 30 Oct 2014, 14:20 »

Box of upper receivers on my porch today. Woot.
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« Reply #373 on: 14 Nov 2014, 18:51 »

Repurposed this 70's era portable super heavy table saw. Removed 75 pounds of guts, and it's a perfect mobile station for assembly / dis / cleaning, with onboard storage for punches hammers and Chem. The slots on the surface are a total bonus for pin driving.
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« Reply #374 on: 15 Nov 2014, 21:03 »

Nice.

So adding to my long running shitty week. I have new magazines for my Jericho 941. There is however a problem. These mags don't lock the slide back on my Jericho. They feed well so far, but there's just enough difference... ugh that's what I get for buying pro mags.
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« Reply #375 on: 15 Nov 2014, 21:40 »


ugh that's what I get for buying pro mags.

Yes. Yes it is.
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« Reply #376 on: 15 Nov 2014, 21:41 »

At any rate you can still use them if you can find replacement followers
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« Reply #377 on: 16 Nov 2014, 07:28 »

Da. Apparently the PS01 followers work, and I'm emailing magnum research to see if I get some of theirs.
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« Reply #378 on: 16 Nov 2014, 21:05 »

Picking up a Ruger MkII for a target pistol project.

edit - was supposed to get the damn thing today, but I ended up working in the nearly finished bathroom all afternoon. It's always some damn thing.
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« Reply #379 on: 27 Nov 2014, 16:09 »

Interesting note. The Model 25 I posted, apparently those target grips were handmade by Ed "Fuzzy" Farrant of the LAPD pistol team, and are quite the sought after collectible.
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« Reply #380 on: 05 Dec 2014, 20:02 »

Having a slow time selling my 03A3
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« Reply #381 on: 05 Dec 2014, 20:23 »

Yeah? Funny, those are usually pretty popular pick ups.
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« Reply #382 on: 06 Dec 2014, 08:28 »

Everyone here in CA. Is rushing to get their last SSE's before 1/1/15, so the market is tilted towards off roster handguns
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« Reply #383 on: 06 Dec 2014, 10:25 »

I'd offer to buy it off you, but I'm short on scratch.
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« Reply #384 on: 06 Dec 2014, 15:00 »

You would be better off restoring a $500 CMP model than buying a nice one off the market anyhow, you'd get more out itt.
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« Reply #385 on: 06 Dec 2014, 16:34 »

CMP hasn't had 1903s for a dog's age last I looked
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« Reply #386 on: 18 Dec 2014, 22:33 »

I need to source a locking, relatively hard yet classic looking wall display unit  for one pistol and one rifle. I don't want to hide my best wwii stuff in the safe, but if I'm putting it on the wall I need it to be solid.
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« Reply #387 on: 22 Dec 2014, 17:07 »

Starting to stone a sig 1911 trigger bow. Interesting to note the pattern of the the high points.
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« Reply #388 on: 30 Dec 2014, 21:17 »


I'd offer to buy it off you, but I'm short on scratch.

I pulled it off the market anyway. It is a really nice example, and I don't want to replace it later.
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« Reply #389 on: 04 Jan 2015, 18:24 »

Eight or nine years ago I grabbed a pretty nice Marlin 24 at an auction for fifty or sixty bucks. That summer, I shot some skeet with it, and during some fast shooting (It's an autotrigger like all the old slide actions) it locked up on me, probably got the recoil safety out of position. I got home, took it apart, and promptly forgot about it. For years.

Today I finally decided to get it squared away, and after a lot of cleaning and some stoning, I went to get into reassembly, and damned if I'm not missing the recoil lug and a couple of the super-weird old Marlin screws.

So now I'm at an impasse... buy the replacement parts for more than I paid for it, or put it mostly back together and just hang the bugger over the fireplace.
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« Reply #390 on: 04 Jan 2015, 18:34 »

Marlin 24 at an auction for fifty or sixty bucks.
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« Reply #391 on: 15 Jan 2015, 19:04 »

Gonna fire form some Nambu ammo outta .380 cases.
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« Reply #392 on: 12 Mar 2015, 17:38 »

Anybody else get the reloaders blues? I have all the components I need for a run of 30 Car, just need to set up the press and go, but I'll be damned if I can be bothered.
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« Reply #393 on: 12 Mar 2015, 19:42 »

I once got into reloading hard.
went and bought all the gear ... searched hard and found some awesome deals for slightly used.
got all set up for reloading 20 GA and 9mm.
made like 20 rounds of 20, and 100 of 9mm.
and then was done.

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« Reply #394 on: 13 Mar 2015, 00:19 »

I don't think I'll ever give it up. But it sure goes through phases. Long ones.
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« Reply #395 on: 02 May 2015, 09:43 »

First gen second model Dragoons are routinely clearing $5K now. I hope I haven't missed out entirely
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« Reply #396 on: 02 May 2015, 16:25 »

Is the double-barrel pistol from the Kingsman movie even mechanically possible?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Kingsman:_The_Secret_Service#Kingsman_Pistol_.28TT-30.29
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Re: Gunsmithing (no politics)
« Reply #397 on: 02 May 2015, 21:35 »

First gen second model Dragoons are routinely clearing $5K now. I hope I haven't missed out entirely

My wife's Great Uncle has 6+ Dragoons.  couldn't tell you which model, etc.
All of them recovered from the Gettysburg battlefield by their family.
2 work.  the others are either rusty or judged unsafe.
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Re: Gunsmithing (no politics)
« Reply #398 on: 03 May 2015, 06:55 »


Is the double-barrel pistol from the Kingsman movie even mechanically possible?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Kingsman:_The_Secret_Service#Kingsman_Pistol_.28TT-30.29

Sure. Unlikely to have much effect, with less than an inch of barrel ahead of a loaded shell. Also pretty likely to damage both itself and the user. So wildly impractical yeah, but mechanically not an overwhelming challenge.
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Re: Gunsmithing (no politics)
« Reply #399 on: 03 May 2015, 06:57 »


First gen second model Dragoons are routinely clearing $5K now. I hope I haven't missed out entirely

My wife's Great Uncle has 6+ Dragoons.  couldn't tell you which model, etc.
All of them recovered from the Gettysburg battlefield by their family.
2 work.  the others are either rusty or judged unsafe.

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