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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1050 on: 22 Oct 2013, 05:24 »


"huh, what?  Poked you? It wasnt me!"
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« Reply #1052 on: 22 Oct 2013, 06:32 »

I'm with Hanners on this, but... the chisel has dulled a little.

Yet another unneeded reminder that we're all getting older.  :(
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« Reply #1053 on: 22 Oct 2013, 06:51 »

This is SICK!







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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1054 on: 22 Oct 2013, 10:38 »

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« Reply #1055 on: 22 Oct 2013, 10:43 »

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« Reply #1056 on: 22 Oct 2013, 10:49 »

I'd guess Irish or at least one is a Father Ted fan.
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1057 on: 22 Oct 2013, 11:50 »

I want to bring the second sign from the left to an actual protest (but not one that's protesting anything meaningful, of course).
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« Reply #1058 on: 22 Oct 2013, 11:54 »

This is where the signs is from for those who don't know. If you're going to use it, I think you have to have another person with, "Careful now!"

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« Reply #1059 on: 22 Oct 2013, 12:13 »

well, I know what I am rewatching tonight:

one of the greatest films ever!
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« Reply #1060 on: 22 Oct 2013, 12:17 »

My ex has a french maid fetish almost entirely because of that movie.
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« Reply #1061 on: 22 Oct 2013, 12:23 »

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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1062 on: 22 Oct 2013, 14:29 »

This is SICK!
Now I totally want this man to forge me a jian. This comes close:
The epilogue made me laugh out loud.
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1063 on: 22 Oct 2013, 14:52 »

@Akima: that is way too awesome!  In the show I liked how the hilt was seamless with the scabbard. What he used to make the sword in the video is amazing!





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« Reply #1064 on: 22 Oct 2013, 15:05 »

Wow, I didn't know that was even possible. What are the odds of a chunk of space rock being suitable to forge into a sword?
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1066 on: 22 Oct 2013, 15:47 »

Wow, I didn't know that was even possible. What are the odds of a chunk of space rock being suitable to forge into a sword?
Many meteors are made of iron, and those ones would be suitable for making into steel.
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« Reply #1067 on: 22 Oct 2013, 16:49 »



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« Reply #1068 on: 22 Oct 2013, 17:02 »

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« Reply #1069 on: 22 Oct 2013, 17:12 »



See other Disney Princesses dressed up as something else for Halloween HERE.  Mulan as Xena and Aurora/Sleeping Beauty as Daenerys Targaryen = win.
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« Reply #1070 on: 22 Oct 2013, 17:17 »

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« Reply #1072 on: 22 Oct 2013, 18:29 »

This is SICK!
Now I totally want this man to forge me a jian. This comes close:
The epilogue made me laugh out loud.

I'd ask him to forge me a proper hand and a half bastard sword. (The question remains is the sword named for me, or am I named for the sword?) or a battle ready M1859 Marine NCO Saber


I'd ask for the traditional battle ready wide dimensions as opposed to the thinned down ceremonial blade style.

Though honestly if I'm going to have a sword commissioned for me... I'll be spending more money then I even want to think about and making a trip to the remaining Japanese sword making clans to have a Katana fitted to my hand and body, then spend a couple years with a Kenjutsu master to make sure I'm not an insult to the blade's spirit.
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« Reply #1073 on: 22 Oct 2013, 20:58 »

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1074 on: 22 Oct 2013, 21:07 »

Buh?
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« Reply #1075 on: 22 Oct 2013, 21:17 »

can't tell if Jace is taking out his historical rage on GM for no reason at all or if Jace broke his internet.
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« Reply #1076 on: 22 Oct 2013, 21:20 »

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« Reply #1077 on: 22 Oct 2013, 21:43 »

Not familiar with the term "weeaboo" but from casual research it appears to be an insult. That would be unwelcome.
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« Reply #1078 on: 22 Oct 2013, 22:22 »


IIRC, there actually are a few katanas that have a million layers of steel, but it only takes 20 folds to achieve this.
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« Reply #1079 on: 22 Oct 2013, 23:56 »

I feel a Mythbusters segment coming on.
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« Reply #1080 on: 23 Oct 2013, 00:45 »

See other Disney Princesses dressed up as something else for Halloween HERE.  Mulan as Xena and Aurora/Sleeping Beauty as Daenerys Targaryen = win.

My favorite one is definitely Alice as Buffy. That crossover touches most of my favorite moments of my childhood.
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« Reply #1081 on: 23 Oct 2013, 02:16 »

The sabre GM displayed bears a remarkable resemblance (guard-design aside) to the liǔyèdāo (willow leaf sabre) that was a very common sidearm during the Ming and Qing Dynasties. Form follows function:
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« Reply #1082 on: 23 Oct 2013, 03:13 »



And now as a GIF (get the whole strip on your screen at once before watching):

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« Reply #1083 on: 23 Oct 2013, 04:00 »

Not familiar with the term "weeaboo" but from casual research it appears to be an insult. That would be unwelcome.

Western person that fetishizes Japanese culture and history, without really understanding it. The joke is of course that traditional katanas, while masterworks, were still no better than the contemporary or earlier mass produced western arms, as Japanese forgers only had pig iron to work with - not quality steel. The mythic fixation on katanas in western culture is a reflection of the higher status of the sword in Japanese culture compared to contemporary European culture, rather than a reflection of quality.

A good, western arming sword (one handled sword, D&D "longsword" (D&D is wrong about what a longsword is)) has a quality of brutal honesty to it that many of the backswords (the sabres and katanas and what have you) of the world lack. There's no attempt at art in an arming sword, it's just a weapon. I've got one of these, and I'd take it over any katana:




According to wikipedia, the katanas are also short - 60–73 cm or 25-29 inches blade length for a two-handled sword. Compared to the ~75 cm of a one handled arming sword. I suspect it's simply due to said lower quality steel causing higher weight - so you'd need to keep the blades shorter to maintain a weight that's still effective in combat. The curved blade of the katana (and the saber and any other curved sword) is also probably due to their wielders fighting less armored opponents than the 11th century wielders of the sword above. Curved blades gives a bigger cutting edge (and thus deeper cuts) than the above sword, but have a much weaker stab, and are less effective at piercing mail or other armor.

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« Reply #1084 on: 23 Oct 2013, 04:34 »

The sabre GM displayed bears a remarkable resemblance (guard-design aside) to the liǔyèdāo (willow leaf sabre) that was a very common sidearm during the Ming and Qing Dynasties. Form follows function:


Oddly enough the USMC swords are based off Mameluke swords because of their actions in Tripoli in the early 1800s and has become tradition in the USMC. As to where the Mameluke's got it...
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« Reply #1085 on: 23 Oct 2013, 04:43 »

The sabre GM displayed bears a remarkable resemblance (guard-design aside) to the liǔyèdāo (willow leaf sabre) that was a very common sidearm during the Ming and Qing Dynasties. Form follows function:


The saber is a very popular weapon world wide... and that Dao and the Marine Corps saber are in fact probably related on some level. The curved swords of the Middle East and later the Dao family were influenced by contact between those two regions (notably under the rule of the Mongol empire, but also just normal trade) and the European saber rose from the Middle Eastern scimitar, in particular the Mameluke sword. A variant of which our officers still carry. (The original being earned during the Tripoli campaign by Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon after the fall of Tripoli to a detachment of Marines and allied local forces, during the Battle of Durna, in 1805, this was the first fortress of the old world to be put under American colors in victory.)

As to Jace, I'm not sure what the hell he's talking about honestly. I assume a cat walked onto his keyboard or something.

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Now I have some issues with that particular comparison and think it could actively be better done, but the bottom line is there is no such thing as an ubersword. In the hands of a bumbling idiot a Katana or Broadsword is no more effective then or dangerous then anything else. (I mean it's still a big chunk of sharp steel, but unless you know what you're doing any sword is surprisingly hard to use). One "myth" that I think Jace was attempting to bring up was that Marines in the Pacific actively shot sword armed Japanese officers and NCOs as a priority. That's true. Do you want to get into close combat with a nutcase swinging a sword? I sure as shit don't.

As for my personal tastes in swords, seeing as I don't have the need to waste my time fantasizing about carrying a sword into battle I stick with my preferred backswords of their varying breeds world wide, which I simply prefer because I like them better. It's not a matter of East or West being better, I just enjoy the visual appeal and slashing focus on the weapons more. (Doesn't hurt that I trained with the Marine saber a little). In particular I enjoy the craftsmanship inherent in the Katana, and I enjoy owning tools and weapons of pedigree (My M1 Garand rifle was specifically selected because it came out of Springfield Armory for example). As an amateur historian owning historical artifacts, and items from families that have been doing certain trades for centuries (if not longer in many cases) has a distinct appeal. I also believing in knowing how to use what I own. When I picked up a rapier I studied Capo Ferro (the Italian school of Rapier fencing), when I picked up a cutlass I studied the traditional Marine Corps manual on Cutlass fencing it is a very short manual, and quite simple, which befits the cutlass itself.) So it stands to reason when I get my Bastard I'll study with an ARMA chapter, and a Katana a Kenjutsu or Iaido master. Learning the styles associated with the weapons, and the history of the weapons themselves is half the fun!

It's a lot easier with collecting guns though. I already know how to shoot so it's not like I need to relearn it every time I pick up something new at the local gun store.

Side thought. If you forced me to carry a sword into the field today, I know exactly what I'd select based on modern combat requirements, and my own field and training experience. A machete. It's light, durable, more then compact enough to delivery powerful blows on unarmored or soft armored targets in close quarters, and outside of active fighting it's a field utility tool, which gives it double value for it's actual weight.



Force me (and you would have to force me) to add a "traditional" sword to my kit (and watch me to ensure I don't ditch the thing in my vehicle or foot locker the second whoever's making me haul it around and I'd select a cutlass for similar reasons as above. I'm not worried about armor. I am worried about powerful, simple strikes at close quarters, and the cutlass was made for such work. Like me ol'Irish gran said "A rapier may be witty, but a cutlass makes'em gutless"

The sabre GM displayed bears a remarkable resemblance (guard-design aside) to the liǔyèdāo (willow leaf sabre) that was a very common sidearm during the Ming and Qing Dynasties. Form follows function:


Oddly enough the USMC swords are based off Mameluke swords because of their actions in Tripoli in the early 1800s and has become tradition in the USMC. As to where the Mameluke's got it...

Point of contention, this is both correct and wrong. The USMC officer's sword is a Mameluke style scimitar/saber. The USMC NCO Saber (M1859 and it's two variants forward) is based on the M1850 Foot Officer's Saber. (U.S. Army) HOWEVER like I said about, the Mameluke sword and similar styles of backsword were highly influential on the development of the European saber, which the M1850 was a classic example of, if slightly shortened for infantry work as it was designed for infantry as opposed to cavarlymen. So while it is not a direct influence like the Marine Officer's scimitar above, the general influence over time means the NCO Saber also owes much to the Mameluke scimitar.

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« Reply #1086 on: 23 Oct 2013, 05:11 »

This is pretty inventive.. and awesome


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« Reply #1088 on: 23 Oct 2013, 06:35 »

@GM: My mistake, I did not know the distinction between the two.  I do know that the recruiter videos and paraphernalia in high school commonly showed the officer one.  I'd also agree to the machete for modern warfare hand to hand combat companion.

Also that very ugly gun has so many entendre jokes attached to it.  More I want to post on but work is busy
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« Reply #1089 on: 23 Oct 2013, 06:44 »

Cheesecake Disney/fairytale princesses? :-\  Hua Mulan is unimpressed...

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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1090 on: 23 Oct 2013, 07:02 »

That picture made me think of Doris Yeh from Chthonic :)
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1091 on: 23 Oct 2013, 07:29 »

Mulan is one of the few "Disney princess" who was not looking for a man as part of the main plot (cinderella, sleeping beauty, even Jasmine was) and I think its one of the reasons (among others) why I liked that movie.  It was moving away from that standard "need a man to rescue me from blah blah blah".  Favorite Disney princess will always be Princes Leia.  Defeating the empire was her goal.  Hell her first few on screen moments before you find out her name is smuggling plans and shooting a soldier.  Then openly defiant to the emperors right hand man/executioner! Getting the Han-some rogue was just a bonus.  Though I think I'll always identify with Luke from that series (which the writers intended I believe).

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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1092 on: 23 Oct 2013, 07:36 »

That may be the best part of Disney buying Star Wars, Princess Leia is now technically a Disney Princess :laugh:
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1093 on: 23 Oct 2013, 08:27 »

Besides Mulan she's (Leia) also the only Disney Princess any daughter of mine will be encouraged to look to as a role model. Great you found a pair of glittery heels, save China or lead an insurrection against an over powering evil empire then I'll be impressed.

Of course, every time I don't follow up a viewing of Mulan with the historical legend of the same, I will feel a slight pressure in the back of my head, as if Akima is chiding me from a very long way away :P
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1094 on: 23 Oct 2013, 08:54 »

I feel that Akima chiding as well...but I relish in it!  :evil:  You don't need to watch Mulan to get that feeling, just watch firefly!
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1095 on: 23 Oct 2013, 09:00 »

Great you found a pair of glittery heels
You accidentally killed one of the regional monarchs! Now you should let one of the remaining two manipulate you into murdering the other one! (I'm assuming Glinda had the Witch of the South killed off centuries ago, since she's never even mentioned and is probably long forgotten by anyone who was alive at the time)

Also, confession: I've never seen Mulan. I should fix that.
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1096 on: 23 Oct 2013, 09:16 »

I always assumed that the witch of the south was like ragadash the brown from lord of the rings.  Just kind of hanging out doing their own thing and not bothering anyone or getting involved.  The witch of the south is the shut in crazy cat lady or so I envisioned her.
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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1097 on: 23 Oct 2013, 09:17 »

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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1098 on: 23 Oct 2013, 09:36 »

Great you found a pair of glittery heels
You accidentally killed one of the regional monarchs! Now you should let one of the remaining two manipulate you into murdering the other one! (I'm assuming Glinda had the Witch of the South killed off centuries ago, since she's never even mentioned and is probably long forgotten by anyone who was alive at the time)

Also, confession: I've never seen Mulan. I should fix that.

The Wizard of Oz TL:DR: A young girl and four strange men band together to go on a journey to murder an ethnic/cultural minority over a pair of shoes that the girl stole in the first place.

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Re: Umm, what??? That's pointless...
« Reply #1099 on: 23 Oct 2013, 10:21 »

(From the Futurama Wizard of Oz, Leela is Dorothy)
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Leela: Yeah, well...it's hard to find shoes that fit.
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