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So, what crazyness can we expect from the gang this week?

Dale and Marigold lip lock by Friday
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Author Topic: WCDT: 2568-2572 (4 November - 8 November 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 56382 times)

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So the coming out does happen between two pages.

Emily is good hearted, but is that enough? She will not out Claire out of malice, but she may not understand how important it is to keep the secret.
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Is it really that big of a secret to keep at this point though? Claire is clearly feeling more confident about herself just in general, I'm guessing young master Reed was the first person outside kinfolk and support groups that heard her secret, to which she recievied a very positive and supportive response. While Emily kinda suprised her, she told her without too much hesitation and Emily was very... enthusiastic in her response as well. (I kinda got the mental picture of a big golden retriever jumping on Claire in that last panel)
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Yes, it is a very, very big secret. It does not matter how many people a trans person (or any LGBTQ+ person) is out to, or how "confident about themselves" you think they are. You do NOT out a trans person, not EVER. They may (and probably will, because HELL WORLD) face very real, very serious, often violent consequences as a result. 
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Claire will probably give Emily the same parameters that Marten has (only tell if someone asks directly) and I don't think Emily will betray that trust.
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Yes, it is a very, very big secret. It does not matter how many people a trans person (or any LGBTQ+ person) is out to, or how "confident about themselves" you think they are. You do NOT out a trans person, not EVER. They may (and probably will, because HELL WORLD) face very real, very serious, often violent consequences as a result.

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It's not shipping if it's cannon.

Well, I'll respect that if it's your head cannon.

So this is the caliber of joke I can expect if I choose to continue posting here?   
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Sometimes it's just automatic, and the puns continue at a pretty good clip. But we don't want to bore you, or put you over a barrel as you take stock of the situation.


Well as I rifle through the rules I'm sure you've breached one or more.   Perhaps we need a primer on basic punmanship, or put a cap on the number per thread.

(Ok I'm reaching with some of those but hey I was up all night with paperwork.   I'm in the Meltly Zone headed for the psychotic breakdown.   WOO )
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The only rule on pun control in this forum I'm aware of is, hit whatcha aim at. And the pun jar. There is always the pun jar.
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I rather worry about Emily knowing Claire is trans as well. Even being given the 'please don't go telling anyone' speech, I wouldn't trust her not to slip at some point. Not out of any kind of malice of course. Just the opposite really. Because she is happy for and proud of Claire. More than a few people have been outed in these exact circumstances by a well meaning, happy and supportive friend who is just so darn proud that they tell other people about their trans friend... Which is a huge faux paux of course, and downright dangerous. While I doubt anybody in the cast is going to turn on Claire, you never know who will overhear it. And in the end you can really never predict how people will take this kind of news, even if you know them well. When I came out to my group of friend just before I started presenting as female I was totally wrong in several cases of who would be supportive and who wouldn't...
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Well the other thing to consider is how dark Jephizba would actually take the comic you know?
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There. Can we stop bringing up the pun jar every time someone makes a pun?
That poor squirrel.  :-(
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Emily is just too chaotic to be trusted with big stuff like Claire's trans issue. Is she evil? No but she is both wild and dumb enough to be dangerous to everyone.

I will admit though that as the character as grown I have grown to hate Emily just because she is so out there. I wonder what happened to the other grad student?
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Gabby? The humidity got her.
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If Claire is smart, she'll take that as a "NO!!!!"
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I was wondering about Gabby as well.

As for whether or not Emily can be trusted, for all her quirks, she doesn't strike me as the type to gossip. She seems more curious and interested in learning about other people than talking about them. She's in her own little world most of the time anyway. This is the girl that spends more time thinking of puns and banana smoothies and looking up facts in encyclopedias than outing anyone.

That, and Claire did say it was a secret. Presumably Emily knows what a secret is and how to keep it. I bet she'd be thrilled she was trusted this way and take special care. Emily is nothing if not enthusiastic in all she does.

Over all, though, I'm glad to see the characters setting a positive example of  acceptance when someone comes out to you. 

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Emily good-hearted? That would be news to Pintsize.
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As for whether or not Emily can be trusted, for all her quirks, she doesn't strike me as the type to gossip. She seems more curious and interested in learning about other people than talking about them. She's in her own little world most of the time anyway. This is the girl that spends more time thinking of puns and banana smoothies and looking up facts in encyclopedias than outing anyone.

That, and Claire did say it was a secret. Presumably Emily knows what a secret is and how to keep it. I bet she'd be thrilled she was trusted this way and take special care. Emily is nothing if not enthusiastic in all she does.

Agreed. Not to mention, Emily REALLY seems to think highly of Claire, even before she came out to her. After the ear piercing incident, I think she'll be really careful not to do something that could harm a friend she really admires. After several communication mishaps, I think this is the time where she'll pass with flying colors, since it's also the time where it matters most.
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I suspect that at some point in the future, Claire will say to Emily "thanks for not outing me [in x situation which just occurred where other people might have been tempted to]" and Emily will say "well you asked me not to! Why would I tell people something you didn't want them to know?" and genuinely not have a clue why someone would do that.
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Emily good-hearted? That would be news to Pintsize.

Good point. She also completely disregarded Momo's "Stop it!" back on the color change page.
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Emily good-hearted? That would be news to Pintsize.

Good point. She also completely disregarded Momo's "Stop it!" back on the color change page.

Good-hearted toward humans, but not so much toward robots AnthroPCs?

I don't see her being like that in any antagonistic way, though; more like she just can't help thinking of them as toys instead of people. She did spend all her time in her AI 101 course looking at cat GIFs, after all, so she's lacking all the basic info about why they're considered people and what behavior toward them is considered rude or not rude.

Edit: By the time I checked the comic this morning, the site was correctly displaying #2571 with no hint of 2572. So it was rather odd to come here and find you all discussing a comic I hadn't seen and couldn't see. It was also pretty amusing to see you all speculating about Jeph's deeper motivations for skipping a comic, since at that point it was obviously just a simple goof, and especially amusing since he's made that exact same goof on multiple occasions in the past. :laugh:
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You can still see #2572, you just have to manually increment it :)

I would of been tempted to disregard the "Stop it!" too.. because that is completely addicting.. pushing a button and having things change color. Also, I am amused by little things >.>;
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You can still see #2572, you just have to manually increment it :)

Yeah, I figured that out later, after posting that comment...

I would of been tempted to disregard the "Stop it!" too.. because that is completely addicting.. pushing a button and having things change color. Also, I am amused by little things >.>;

True, but I expect that Momo's tone got more upset with each "Stop it!" -- I know mine would, anyway...
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That was weird, but at least I got 2571 in a short period of time.

So. Emily's in on "The Secret".

With the proper setup now she is definately in on it, and even bigger she is OK with it and is showing signs of being a true friend

Let's just hope she isn't prone to blurting out secrets to people by accident though...
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I think Thrudd's been taken over by Emily.

This happen often?  I mean this place is nice and all but I draw the line at possessions.
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There. Can we stop bringing up the pun jar every time someone makes a pun?

Besides, all the cool kids use PunPal(tm), the fastest way to pay for punning.
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Smart pretty people get ALL THE HUGS. So Emily hugs Claire before she can even finish saying the word 'transcendental'. That's somebody's head canon and I will respect that.
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For the record, I was not suggesting that Emily would or should "out" Claire, I was suggesting that the secret is becoming less of a big deal on Claire's terms, so she's coming out herself.
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Anyone else pleased with Emily's stoic look in panels 1-3? She is listening intently and given her reaction, she must really take what Claire is telling her seriously.

I don't believe she will out her, not from the look and the reaction. I think the secret is safe, and Emily made her first real friend  8-)
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I don't believe she will out her, not from the look and the reaction. I think the secret is safe, and Emily made her first real friend  8-)

So Marten has become a complete non-entity at this point?
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Okay, so it looks like some of you are talking about this, and that's good, but I'll weigh in just the same.

*You* shouldn't go around telling people about your friend/lover/stranger/etc.'s trans/cis/whatever status because...well, we live in a reality where too much bullshit gets done over it. The 20th looms closer and closer after all if you really want a reminder.

That said, not to trivialize stuff, but it strikes me that the point where you can start referring to it as The Secret... maybe I'm not articulating this very well, but it seems like it's distinctly possible to take that a little too far the other way. There's not as much difference as I'd like between hiding yourself so that they don't find out you're different, and hiding yourself so that they don't find out you're different in another direction, if you get my meaning.

Though maybe that's the rambling of a bitter woman who won't get to easily 'pass' for a long time, if ever. Can't deny that colors my viewpoint.

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Oooh so we got the comic for today yesterday and now we have the comic for yesterday today but I could have gotten it yesterday ?

Well, happy weekend I guess.

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So Marten has become a complete non-entity at this point?

You need to keep a low profile when you're secretly a beetle.
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Because this is the way my brain works, I propose the Worst Way This Could End:

After an appropriately dramatic moment witnessed by Emily involving Claire and Character X, Character Y enters and asks what's happened, to which Emily responds by not only outing Claire, but doing so via pun.

Claire's breach of the peas, avenged.
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I don't believe she will out her, not from the look and the reaction. I think the secret is safe, and Emily made her first real friend  8-)

So Marten has become a complete non-entity at this point?

Meh, fuck 'em.
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It happens to all main characters after long enough in an ongoing series...

I am wondering about the fact that Emily said "people" to Claire, "boys" of herself, and "girls" to Marten.  I'm wondering whether Claire said something off-camera suggesting she was bi (like Dora in yesteryear; cf. "luckyyyy..."), or whether Emily just didn't want to assume.
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So Marten has become a complete non-entity at this point?

You need to keep a low profile when you're secretly a beetle.
Marten is George Harrison?  So much suddenly makes sense!
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Emily wears a Claire now.


Claires are cool.
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I don't believe she will out her, not from the look and the reaction. I think the secret is safe, and Emily made her first real friend  8-)

So Marten has become a complete non-entity at this point?

Meh, fuck 'em.
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