Topic: WCDT: 2711-2715 (26 - 30 May 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 64279 times)

T · « **Reply #300 on:** 31 May 2014, 17:39 »

Quote from: cesariojpn on 31 May 2014, 17:10

Quote from: Ben on 30 May 2014, 18:24
Regarding robot/human relations, the chassis Momo rejected at Idoru was a highly anime-style girl in a school uniform.

It was a "knock off" of one of the main characters from Lucky Star.

More specifically a hardcore otaku character (social otaku but still hardcore), something that Marigold would love.

Ben · « **Reply #301 on:** 31 May 2014, 21:10 »

Sarcastic, watashi-sama? Surely not!

Actually, I'll tell you a story. When I first started working in former Soviet countries I met a lot if people who not only couldn't speak English, but couldn't read the Roman alphabet either. You'd think "Ben" was a simple enough name but if you know Cyrillic, its possible to misread it as being approximately "Venya" or even "Vanya". Since Vanya is quite a common nickname in Russian speaking countries I just decided that if someone thinks that's my name, I go with that. It doesn't matter, we both know what is meant. It isn't so common now but I still encounter it occasionally.

It's quite easy to read Russian names if yiu know the alphabet, because there's usually only one pronunciation for any given spelling and the spelling is pretty much phonetic. English, not so much.

Japanese, Korean or Chinese names, different game. I don't have the first inkling of how to read any of the scripts and can't functionally distinguish between any of the spoken or written languages. However its easy to give offence by mistaking names and honourifics, so I rely entirely on interpreters and make no attempt to speak any Japanese etc. Pretty much all expats do the same, because it works. Most Japanese who do speak English will ensure that you have some recognisable version of their name that yiu can consistently use without giving offence, because they have so introduced themselves.

So yes, I do live and work in an environment in which variations of words which are approximately similar are taken as functionally synonymous. So it goes, it's just a convention like a lot if other conventions.

So, Sam behaves pretty much as kids that age do, rushing around after the enthusiasms of the moment.

By the by, I notice from another link that Momo has her USB port in her right ear, not the back of her neck. She seems to have a pretty full suite of stereotypes ... she lampshades the "sweat-drop" convention with a throw-away gag about "how difficult it is to clean afterwards", shows herself a kendo or maybe butsu expert against the squirrel and produces high-pressure steam when reading the Victorian content in the library.

So, AnthroPCs can do whatever is required for the purpose of the exercise..

Truec · « **Reply #302 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 01:20 »

On rereading, it occurs to me that May is actually wrong. She's the reason Dale and Marigold aren't currently boning. Maybe.

jwhouk · « **Reply #303 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 05:21 »

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danuis · « **Reply #304 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 05:49 »

Did I ever mention I always had a soft spot for May? Because I, like, do.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #305 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 06:23 »

I find it odd that people think Momo looks twelve. I think she looks like a young-looking late teenager, so I could easily see her passing as a uni student.

Ben · « **Reply #306 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 06:54 »

She is smaller than any of the other characters, she seems to be about the same height as Tai and very slightly built - when she has some clothes from Hanners, they hang on her like a sack. The pink hair and juvenile style don't help. I suppose it's a matter of opinion but I certainly can't see her as a University student

Method of Madness · « **Reply #307 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 07:12 »

You mention that she's about the same height as Tai, who is probably about 22. She works at a college library, I wouldn't be surprised if students assumed she was a freshman.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #308 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 07:32 »

I am frequently told I look young and I've been a university student for five years. In my first year it's believable that people might think I was twelve - when I was 20 I went underwear shopping with my mum and the bra-measuring woman said my mum would have to be in the changing room with us as a chaperone because I was under 16.

Basically my point is that you cannot tell how old someone is by looking at them and it's kind of rude to say that grown women can't be small or look young because many of us do.

Ben · « **Reply #309 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 07:59 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 01 Jun 2014, 07:12

You mention that she's about the same height as Tai, who is probably about 22. She works at a college library, I wouldn't be surprised if students assumed she was a freshman.

Tai is drawn as quite full-figured, whereas Momo appears to have almost no figure at all. She could probably get into one leg of Faye or Marigolds' jeans. But context is important and if she was working in a college library people would go by that.

American and British perceptions differ, anyway.

Zebediah · « **Reply #310 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 11:25 »

Sam assumed that Momo was roughly the same age as her when they first met. So I've always gone with the idea that she looks like a young teenager. Beyond that I haven't speculated much.

Thrillho · « **Reply #311 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 15:53 »

Quote from: Barmymoo on 01 Jun 2014, 07:32

I am frequently told I look young and I've been a university student for five years. In my first year it's believable that people might think I was twelve - when I was 20 I went underwear shopping with my mum and the bra-measuring woman said my mum would have to be in the changing room with us as a chaperone because I was under 16.

Basically my point is that you cannot tell how old someone is by looking at them and it's kind of rude to say that grown women can't be small or look young because many of us do.

I know this wasn't targeted at me specifically. My issue wasn't someone who looks pretty young, because such people exist. My issue was with someone being able to get their hands on an AnthroPC chassis that is specifically designed to look underage.

Thrillho · « **Reply #312 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 15:54 »

Quote from: danuis on 01 Jun 2014, 05:49

Did I ever mention I always had a soft spot for May? Because I, like, do.

This is only your sixth post, so in fairness you've not really mentioned much of anything

Method of Madness · « **Reply #313 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 15:56 »

@Gareth - Right, but I don't think that was the case with Momo.

Thrillho · « **Reply #314 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 15:57 »

I don't know the comic well enough to debate that point.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #315 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 16:29 »

They never really address it, so neither of us are more right than the other.

Thrillho · « **Reply #316 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 16:45 »

I DON'T AGREE TO THAT

(I am having trouble sleeping)

Method of Madness · « **Reply #317 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 16:54 »

Quote from: Gareth on 01 Jun 2014, 16:45

(I am having trouble sleeping)

So why aren't you talking on Facebook?

Thrillho · « **Reply #318 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 17:02 »

Because that requires changing between Facebook messenger and Chrome when I'm sat on my ass in bed.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #319 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 17:13 »

Isn't that just a matter of switching tabs?

Ben · « **Reply #320 on:** 01 Jun 2014, 18:42 »

On the basis that characters like Padma and Tai have obviously non-Caucasian skin colours, I'd assumed that if Momo has Japanese style features, it would be apparent. My interpretation is that she has anime-style features (large eyes, small snub nose and small chin) and pretty much Caucasian skin colour, like those "actroid" robots.

Her small size and minimal figure is just due to the same chassis being used for more Asian looking figures in other markets. We know Momo has detachable skin because it has been mentioned, so a similar chassis could be any colour required, or even patterned.

The other AnthroAIs at Idoru look more obviously European. Their obvious articulation suggests they have fixed single-hue coloration moulded into their exoskeleton and probably look like animated mannequins. Coloration probably varies by regional distribution so they look unremarkable at first glance, so they are European-looking in New England and probably more Hispanic looking in an area where that's common. Economy models are probably a generic colour sufficiently different to make it obvious you haven't paid the extra $500 or whatever, which is why the Robot Sales Woman and May are blue-grey.

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