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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1050 on: 20 Mar 2018, 05:47 »

I'd say be proud. Also pleased. It sounds like it's a real difficulty curve. Nobody wants a sheer, unsurmountable steel wall for a difficulty curve (except the lunatics who play the various Souls games, or Getting Over it, but those freaks are just ridiculous).

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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1051 on: 20 Mar 2018, 10:27 »

Souls freak here. I've played Dark Souls 3 to death and I can name dozens of games objectively more difficult than it. Getting Over It is one of them, but Dead Cells is probably about on par.

The thing is, the difficulty curve is pretty much a sheer steel wall that you have two ways of overcoming. You can walk around it, i.e. ignore all the enemies and run straight through the level, or build a staircase out of equipment upgrades that give you additional attack power and damage resistance, which takes a long time and is kinda boring. Previously, I did the bravely-running-away thing because it's simply the most effective way of succeeding: engaging enemies is a risk of losing health and a chance to gain blue cells and gold, both of which are rather useless to your immediate success, so it's better to not take the risk. Then I got to the final boss and found that he wasn't that much more difficult than before, even though all the other enemies were much more effective at killing me.

Then I went another difficulty level up and this is where it gets truly ridiculous. Running away is too good a strategy so they countered that by making it the only strategy. Now there are multiple enemies that can shoot through walls stuffed throughout the initial level and they each do enough damage to one-shot you. You cannot stand still for more than a second or you'll get shot and die. You cannot stop and engage an enemy or you'll get shot and die. You can pause just long enough to loot items but that's it.

This is not the kind of difficulty I enjoy. It's serial escalation: just add more enemies that do more damage and require more hits to kill while you're forced to keep up with the arms race by grinding more and more upgrade points. I prefer it when games take something away to make it more difficult, and to be fair, Dead Cells does: you get fewer opportunities to replenish your health in higher difficulties. But then they combine that with the ridiculously hard-hitting enemies and it just shoots way too far in the other direction. Even the progression through a single game has elements of that: you're encouraged to seek out upgrade scrolls that increase your health and damage, the more the better. But at no point does the game offer fewer of these; you just get more ways to get higher stats.

One of the reasons I like Dark Souls so much is the opportunities it gives you for negative challenges. Like, I can defeat this boss if I summon help, but could I do it alone? Or on a much lower level than normal? Or with unconventional weaponry? There isn't really room for customisation like that in Dead Cells, because you're at the mercy of the random weapons the game gives you (and there's no way to shrink the pool) and the upgrade system means you're expected to become substantially more powerful before you even have a chance of killing the final boss. It feels like the game's incentives are all wrong.

Don't misunderstand me, the game is still very good, just structured in a way that isn't how I like. I do this a lot: play a game to death until I can peel away every layer of game mechanics and identify how it could be better. That I'm motivated to do this for Dead Cells at all instead of just deciding it isn't for me is a testament to how solid the basic gameplay loop is.
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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1052 on: 21 Mar 2018, 07:51 »

That is a very detailed and concise description of how it feels to play that game. It's much more useful information than what a lot of people would post in a game review, which is usually about the cosmetics of the experience. It has definitely influenced my decision on whether or not to buy ([NOT], by the way. I'm more for Survival Sandbox games lately).

I think it would be a good idea to put that as a Steam review if you haven't made one already.

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« Reply #1053 on: 21 Mar 2018, 08:53 »

Well, you know, Early Access, product not final, YMMV, etc. Steam reviews are a bit 'shouting into the void' so I don't usually bother with them unless there aren't very many of them or I'm trying to spotlight a game for people on my friends list. Plus, I have Dead Cells on GOG which makes the potential review audience even smaller.
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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1054 on: 21 Mar 2018, 17:23 »

Been re-playing Fallout 4 lately, this time emphasizing building settlements.

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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1055 on: 21 Mar 2018, 20:42 »

Playing HoI4 again. Trying to win WW2 in 1936 as France is tooough.  :cry:

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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1056 on: 22 Mar 2018, 16:03 »

Played through Bayonetta 2 and then started NieR:Automata. I can't help comparing the latter to the former despite being only similar in the base mechanics of the combat system - Bayonetta being a spectacled affair of slashing through angels and demons while NieR is an ARPG for the most part.

Also I've been told that NieR:Automata will make me highly depressed so there's that to expect.
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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1057 on: 23 Mar 2018, 09:51 »

I am so glad that Subnautica has been fully released. I envy anyone who gets to play it blind because there are so many bits and pieces of the game that I've seeen built from scratch, but finally getting to FINISH the game after all this time? It feels SO GOOD. Literal tears.

Also, it's one of those great games that has scary bits in it even though it's not inherently a scary game. To me, scary bits in an otherwise NON-horror game are SO MUCH SCARIER than scary bits in a horror game. It's like, what's scarier? The zombie dogs in R.E., or the Wallmasters in Legend of Zelda? One you kinda expect, the other just comes out of nowhere the first time you see it.

Oh you Hellspawn, why did I listen to youARGHBLARGHURGHLLLLLLLH!!!

Bought it yesternight @0:00, played 3-4hours straight, now again 2-3hours, decided to take break because my butt and back are hurting something fierce and first thing do after shutting it down is googling "subnautica, where to place my first base?"  :-\
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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1058 on: 23 Mar 2018, 18:32 »

Holy shitsnacks! Doki Doki Litature Club was amazing!  I saw a bit of references for it on imgur, saw it on steam (its free) but I am not into anime visual novels so never took much interest in it until my favorite youtubers (Jesse Cox and Dodger) played it together.  Just wow.  Its a psychological horror game with the facade of being a harem anime visual novel game.  It can be very disturbing.  It kind of scared/fucked up my wife after watching it.  I on the other hand just loved the concept and amazed at the execution.

Be aware though, there is a lot of disturbing images relating to self harm in the game.  :psyduck:
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Re: What Games Have You Been Playing Recently
« Reply #1059 on: 13 Apr 2018, 18:00 »

Anyone else play Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock?

I picked it up on Steam a few days ago.  It has a decent campaign so far (its colonial fleet campaign only). I really like the turn based approach to fleet management.  Real time (like Battlefleet Gothic: Armada) can be a bit much to manage at times when there is so much happening on screen.  The story takes place during the first cylon war and you are the commander.  You will have to play politics with the colonies, try not to upset Admiral Cain, while also fighting off the cylon armada. It can be pretty brutal at times (I picked up the DLC which grants more ships but it gives the cylons an anti fighter gunboat that murders my OP viper IIs) as your fleets try to squeak by and protect everyone.

My only real complaint, and I guess it is a conceptional one, is that there doesn't seem to be any torpedo/bomber class of fighter which means you pretty much only have vipers and the occasional raptor.  I guess I am spoiled as they do exist in other sci-fi WW2 carrier style fleets like in Star Wars or Wing Commander.  Don't get me wrong, the Vipers are great but it I feel like having a dedicated anti-ship fighter just makes sense. Perhaps it didn't exist in the show so they didn't bother, but it would have added to the game play with fighter/bomber management (protecting bombers, intercepting enemy bombers, etc).

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