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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #100 on: 02 Dec 2014, 23:38 »

Oh, Hanners, please don't murder.  You wouldn't look good in an orange jumpsuit.

There will be no forensic evidence.  None.

Nor any witnesses.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #101 on: 02 Dec 2014, 23:59 »

Juicy, you've got some splainin to do!

Haha, being old enough to remember "I Love Lucy" finally pays off.  :-D

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #102 on: 03 Dec 2014, 00:29 »

"Accurate" and "orbital bombardment" do not fit in the same sentence.
Orbital bombardment does not need to be accurate. How about that? I'm sure that Hanners can call, at need, on a full spectrum of threats. There is no need to devastate a street to eliminate one fashion don't who is careless with her knickers.

Ms. Juicy has a serious pink problem. And an even worse matchy-matchy problem.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #103 on: 03 Dec 2014, 00:33 »

I'm thinking that Hanners, being Hanners, will stalk Juicy for a while whilst trying to decide how to get her revenge. Because Juicy moves in a totally different culture from her, Hannelore is going to encounter a totally different world from any she's previously seen in real life. This will lead her to new insights, new impulses and possibly weird-sounding questions and requests to her friends.

FAYE: "Hanners, why have you got a dancing pole set up in your apartment?"
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #104 on: 03 Dec 2014, 00:33 »

"Accurate" and "orbital bombardment" do not fit in the same sentence.

Why not?

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #105 on: 03 Dec 2014, 01:55 »

"Accurate" and "orbital bombardment" do not fit in the same sentence.

QC has never been one to be bothered with "semantics."

Dropping a tungsten rod on a specific set of 9 digit GPS coordinates from orbit is extremely accurate. Even if the kinetic energy from such a weapon's taking out the city block.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #106 on: 03 Dec 2014, 02:06 »

Hang on, I just had a thought.  What if Hanners finally takes May up on her offer?
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #107 on: 03 Dec 2014, 02:46 »

May is supposed to be on her best behaviour, which, at a guess, excludes killing people.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #108 on: 03 Dec 2014, 04:13 »

Considering what May comes up with on her own devices, she can probably cause enough trouble for "Juicy" without resorting to murder.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #109 on: 03 Dec 2014, 07:16 »

Hanners has finally found her Dinkleberg.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #110 on: 03 Dec 2014, 08:23 »


Ah! So that's 'Juicy'! You're got to wonder what manner of woman has a nickname like that and has it added even to her underthings!

You've heard of the brand "Juicy Couture", haven't you? They put that word on EVERYTHING.


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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #111 on: 03 Dec 2014, 08:26 »


I wonder how accurate the tungsten rod is to a walking person on the ground.

The first thought that occurred to me as I saw that panel was "Don't go there. Station would actually do it if you asked, but you can calculate what the collateral damage would be -- and how messy that would be."


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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #112 on: 03 Dec 2014, 12:55 »

That all depends on the results you're after



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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #113 on: 03 Dec 2014, 14:13 »

I'm not sure we will ever see Juicy again. This may have been an interlude / one off joke based on something that happened to Jeph hiimself or one of his friends. Not unlike the strip when Faye had an accident because she didn't see that Angus had left the seat cover up. Of course, if Jeph decides to run with it, we will get Juicy LOLs.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #114 on: 03 Dec 2014, 14:49 »


Ah! So that's 'Juicy'! You're got to wonder what manner of woman has a nickname like that and has it added even to her underthings!

You've heard of the brand "Juicy Couture", haven't you? They put that word on EVERYTHING.



Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's just one of those people who just have to wear entire outfits from a single company.  The chances of her name actually being Juicy are pretty slim.

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #115 on: 03 Dec 2014, 15:07 »


Ah! So that's 'Juicy'! You're got to wonder what manner of woman has a nickname like that and has it added even to her underthings!

You've heard of the brand "Juicy Couture", haven't you? They put that word on EVERYTHING.

Actually, no, I haven't. Being male, unattached and in Britain, I think I am pretty much out of range of this particular brand.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #116 on: 03 Dec 2014, 15:29 »

Didn't know about the brand and didn't think it was her name; assumed it was a self-descriptive adjective.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #117 on: 03 Dec 2014, 15:44 »


Ah! So that's 'Juicy'! You're got to wonder what manner of woman has a nickname like that and has it added even to her underthings!

You've heard of the brand "Juicy Couture", haven't you? They put that word on EVERYTHING.

Actually, no, I haven't. Being male, unattached and in Britain, I think I am pretty much out of range of this particular brand.

Associated with chav culture.....ring a bell?
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #118 on: 03 Dec 2014, 16:22 »

"Accurate" and "orbital bombardment" do not fit in the same sentence.

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #119 on: 03 Dec 2014, 16:26 »

I'm certain "Juicy Couture" would be available near  Camden Lock.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #120 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:12 »

I like how Hannelore gives her old clothes a fond farewell before sending them on their journey into the unknown.

Now we need a comic where 'Juicy' sees her old panties somewhere completely inappropriate.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #121 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:22 »

Or a NASA-clean pair of undies that can't possibly fit her.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #122 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:24 »

Given Jeph's fascination with such, I'm surprised Juicy didn't let out a big juicy parrrrrrrp as she walked by.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #123 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:29 »

I'm not sure we will ever see Juicy again.

Poor juicy, put on the bus already.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #124 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:36 »

Now we need a comic where 'Juicy' sees her old panties somewhere completely inappropriate.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #125 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:40 »

There is no place that is appropriate for those panties except the incinerator.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #126 on: 03 Dec 2014, 17:45 »

"Accurate" and "orbital bombardment" do not fit in the same sentence.

QC has never been one to be bothered with "semantics."

Dropping a tungsten rod on a specific set of 9 digit GPS coordinates from orbit is extremely accurate. Even if the kinetic energy from such a weapon's taking out the city block.

Actually no. I once did a back-of the envelope calculation for orbital bombardment after seeing a bit of some movie in which one took out Paris. The energy from a mass of tungsten rod is give-or-take, sort-of,  the same as the same mass of TNT.  Which makes sense as it's energy ultimate derives from burning about 15 times it's mass in rocket propellent to get it up there.

I imagine that's why it's never been done, you might as well just drop the same weight of bombs from an aircraft. Something, Hanner's mother might actually be able to arrange if asked.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #127 on: 03 Dec 2014, 18:10 »

To me accuracy is taking out a human sized target with no damage to anything or anyone around it. Which is almost impossible when dropping something from space, because the atmosphere will burn off enough of the object to either knock it off course or burn up entirely. In order to have enough mass to reach the target in one piece, it'd be too big to avoid causing collateral damage.


The only thing close to accurately here is getting it in the right zip code.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #128 on: 03 Dec 2014, 18:16 »

I think putting a 500lb bomb through a window's damn accurate myself personally.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #129 on: 03 Dec 2014, 18:36 »

[ movie clip]

Goodness, when those particular satellites release something, it just drops.

That must make space-walks a hairy experience.

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #130 on: 03 Dec 2014, 18:44 »

Some people decorate a room with paintings, others use aircraft, don't judge.
Me, I'm fond of car grilles.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #131 on: 03 Dec 2014, 19:13 »

New comic.

And I guess that answers the question of whose that was. And gives Hannelore a nemesis.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #132 on: 03 Dec 2014, 19:16 »

Well, she *could* probably afford to fulfil that dream if she really wanted to, and her friends were up to it.  It'd change the tone of the comic too much, though.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #133 on: 03 Dec 2014, 19:31 »

The space station was kind of like a mansion, and the hunter-killer droids occasionally moonlight as butlers...
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #134 on: 03 Dec 2014, 20:14 »

Is Hannelore Pizza Girl?
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #135 on: 03 Dec 2014, 20:17 »

Nope
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #136 on: 03 Dec 2014, 20:22 »

Anyone else think a comic composed entirely of Hannelore's fantasies would be cool?  The Amazing Mental Adventures of Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham(in ViviColour)!
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #137 on: 03 Dec 2014, 20:26 »

We already have something like that, it's called "the Boat ride from the first Charley and the Chocolate Factory movie.".

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #138 on: 03 Dec 2014, 21:35 »

New comic.

And I guess that answers the question of whose that was. And gives Hannelore a nemesis.
Comic's up...

...and has Jeph been reading this thread?  :psyduck:

I feel like this episode is another time where an accident happened and Hanners is overreacting slightly. No one means to put her underwear in someone else's laundry! I really doubt the previously unknown "Juicy" girl knew of Hannelore's neuroses and wanted to cause Hanners to throw out all of her clothing. Accordingly, this talk of a "nemesis" seems a bit much.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #139 on: 03 Dec 2014, 21:38 »

But she's craaaazzzzyyyyy.  And as kind and sweet as normal Hanners is, there *is* her dark subconscious, which is probably talking right now, 'specially about the "nemesis" thing.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #140 on: 03 Dec 2014, 22:22 »

@katsmeat
Yep, that was a Me 109. They would seem to be in a museum of some sort. British War museum perhaps?

If Hanners is on her Juicy's case, her revenge will be... interesting. It should give a new meaning to the name "cleaner".
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #141 on: 03 Dec 2014, 22:22 »

New comic.

And I guess that answers the question of whose that was. And gives Hannelore a nemesis.
Comic's up...

...and has Jeph been reading this thread?  :psyduck:

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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #142 on: 03 Dec 2014, 22:32 »

Considering all juicy stores have closed in the USA this woman is either hoarding what pink tracksuits are left , ordering from abroad or maybe this comic occurred before the closing and Hannelore is partially respo sable fpr that :p
O wait I kist read they are fpr sales at some stores,  nevermind
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #143 on: 03 Dec 2014, 22:53 »

Well, she *could* probably afford to fulfil that dream if she really wanted to, and her friends were up to it.  It'd change the tone of the comic too much, though.

She could buy an entire building and give free apartments to her friends. This way she could keep all her friends around.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #144 on: 03 Dec 2014, 23:18 »

Gee, Hanners has such a weird dream life, doesn't she? I'm thinking that she's prone to dramatic exaggeration given that Marten didn't react to the 'nemesis' thing. :-P

So, whilst I'm still thinking that Hannelore will stalk Juicy for a while, I'm also still thinking that this is a hook into something else. Maybe the next step in the game of musical apartments, perhaps? Hannelore has to balance her need to associate freely with her friends with the hygiene needs of her peace of mind. I wonder what ideas she'll have beyond The Mansion of Clean?

Meanwhile, I think that it's cute how dependent Hanners is on her ability to just 'drop in' on Marten and Faye. It's pretty clear that, on a certain level, she already sees them as being part of the same household with different mailing addresses.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #145 on: 03 Dec 2014, 23:25 »

If Hanners is on her Juicy's case, her revenge will be... interesting. It should give a new meaning to the name "cleaner".

Like turning on a shower knob marked "Old Faithful"
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #146 on: 03 Dec 2014, 23:46 »

Meanwhile, I think that it's cute how dependent Hanners is on her ability to just 'drop in' on Marten and Faye. It's pretty clear that, on a certain level, she already sees them as being part of the same household with different mailing addresses.

That brought up problems in the past, and it would probably be no different in the future.

I must say, at some point I've had Hanners' idea on my mind as well. Living alone in an apartment gets awfully boring sometimes, and it's not cool when you start talking to your umbrella.

But back to topic, while you might see it as an overreaction, I think it's completely ok. One should take care of their goddamn laundry themselves. No excuse for that.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #147 on: 04 Dec 2014, 00:04 »

I once did a back-of the envelope calculation for orbital bombardment
The other poster didnt claim that the kinetic energy ACTUALLY would be that high.

Also, yes, except for really massive objects, all objects falling from space onto earth are slowed down very substantly by the atmosphere and wont hit with more than terminal velocity. Which, however, for a tungsten rod that is massive and aerodynamic could still be quite some speed.
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Re: WCDT December 1-5, 2014 (2845-2849)
« Reply #148 on: 04 Dec 2014, 00:08 »

Based on this strip, I'm not expecting a change of location for Hannelore. She's worse with change than Marten! I'd go so far as to say that it could cause a breakdown!
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« Reply #149 on: 04 Dec 2014, 00:20 »

@katsmeat
Yep, that was a Me 109.
Bf 109, please. A G model from the looks of it, G-10 perhaps?

As for dropped rocks/tungsten rods - it takes energy to de-orbit. If you're in a Molniya orbit, only a bit to make the eccentricity a little higher so the perigee intersects the Earth's surface, but you can't get more energy out than you put in. If you're in a circular orbit, "dropping" means it just stays where it is, in orbit. Accelerate, it goes higher, decelerate, it goes lower.

Molniya orbit



If at apogee (the high part) just a tiny deceleration is enough to increase eccentricity so you get lithobraking. However you enter the atmosphere at a shallow angle, and may burn up or even skip, depending on aerodynamics.

Anyway, as has been pointed out, you can't get a 10 megaton bang out without expending a >10 megaton amount of energy to put it up there. Not quite true, you can play games with orbits, sucking energy off the Earth or Lunar rotation, slowing them down by a smidgen, and increasing your energy a lot... but that takes fancy footwork, probably going to Venus and back a few times, and many years. The kind of thing you only do on long range interplanetary missions.

When it comes to space weaponry, the go-to site is Project Rho's Atomic Rockets.



Rick Robinson's First Law of Space Combat

    An object impacting at 3 km/sec delivers kinetic energy equal to its mass in TNT.


3km/sec is the velocity of an object falling for 300 secs in a constant 1g field in a vacuum (just about). 90000 metres, just on the edge of space. But to double the velocity - so get a yield of 4kg of TNT per kg of mass - you'd need 600 secs of falling - 360,000 metres. Low Earth Orbit. And so on.

Taking things to extremes, 454 kt is the yield of 1 gram at 99.9% c. So a 1kg mass at 99.9C gives 454 Mt.

Sources:
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunconvent.php
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunexotic.php
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