Jeph Jacques's comics discussion forums

  • 19 Nov 2019, 07:33
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Poll

What awaits us this week? (Poll Closes Wednesday)

Whatever happened to Pintsize?
- 41 (37.6%)
Faye's story v.2.0.?
- 21 (19.3%)
Student, Girlfriend, Librarian or some combination of all three? Claire's Dilemma?
- 11 (10.1%)
How do you come back from firing your best friend?
- 20 (18.3%)
Something completely new (give your idea in a comment, plz)?
- 0 (0%)
"Marten, how would you feel about having three dads?"
- 16 (14.7%)

Total Members Voted: 109

Voting closed: 04 Feb 2015, 06:23


Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 22   Go Down

Author Topic: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)  (Read 61319 times)

NilsO

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 531
  • (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) Butts Butts Butts Butts
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #50 on: 02 Feb 2015, 01:13 »

It looks like Faye now has decided to stop drinking, and is happy to get help from Marten and Hanners. If it works, it should cement their friendship further, making Faye, Marten, and Hanners the "core group" of the QC cast. However, there are pitfalls. While Marten and Hanners probably will quit drinking (at least when Faye is present), Faye will still have the craving. Marten and Hanners cannot watch her 24/7 (although Hanners could quit her job, as she does not need the money, and the CoD job is probably less attractive for her with Faye fired).

The rent is probably a thing that needs to be resolved soon. Faye really should try to get another job, but might not be quite ready for it yet. I guess Hanners can help out, but it is not a long term solution.

Sven is another potential shark in the water. If they hook up, Faye might be happy for a while, but Sven is too much of a man-slut to remain faithful for long. When that happens, Faye is guaranteed to hit the bottle again.

BenRG

  • WoW gold miner on break
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 6,536
  • Boldly Going From The Back Seat!
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #51 on: 02 Feb 2015, 01:36 »

Nils actually posted his comment whilst I was typing the one below but, as they cover some of the same ground, I think that it's worth partially quoting it.

The rent is probably a thing that needs to be resolved soon. Faye really should try to get another job, but might not be quite ready for it yet. I guess Hanners can help out, but it is not a long term solution.

Well, once Faye has had the chance to catch her breath and find her balance (say, a week) she's going to need a job. The problem is, of course, that her resumé isn't exactly a sparkling example of 'Hire me now!' I've got a feeling that CoD is her only real work experience. She has definitely got metalwork skills but would a bodywork shop be willing to hire her? More importantly, would that be the sort of job she wants? She's an artist, not an engineer and I think fixing stuff 'to spec' wouldn't be her idea of an ideal job.

I'm wondering whether Faye will end up working at the Secret Bakery? It's broadly the same sort of job she had at CoD but would be a change of scene. It also will bring her closer to a girl who I think would be the most powerful motive she could have to stay clean - She'd not want to risk her right to spend time with Sam for anything, IMO.

Re-introducing SB as a location would enable Jeph to do several things. Firstly, it would enable him to move Jim, Sam and possibly the other counter-clerk, Elliot, up to first-string supporting characters. It would also make it a lot smoother and more organic to follow Jim and Veronica's romantic (mis)adventures. Also, Elliot, as an unattached, local male, could be used for a number of romantic misunderstandings ("I'm not Padma, Elliot; get over it!") as well as potentially widening Faye's rather limited social circle. You could even imagine a strip or two where Marten waxes nostalgic about her 'spreading her wings'.

Would this spell the end of CoD as a location? No more than it already has been relegated in favour of the Library, IMHO. Marten still goes there for his own reasons (most notably to caffeinate the Library staff every morning). Hannelore works there and Dora is Tai's girlfriend, so there are still lots of reasons to go there. Most notably there are a couple of Dora-centric story threads that would likely include CoD and the barista girls as window-dressing.

Would Hannelore quit? I'm really not sure. I think that Dale, Penny, Cosette and Dora are Hanners' friends in their own right now. Whilst I could see Hannelore maybe requesting a leave of absence to help look after Faye, the reason why she chose to work at CoD - to socialise and have a 'normal' life - is still as valid as ever.
Logged
~~~~

They call me BenRG... But I don't know why!

Channelore HellicottAtham

  • Plantmonster
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 48
  • OH GOD THERE IS A HAND INSIDE ME AAAAAAAAAUGH
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #52 on: 02 Feb 2015, 02:17 »

Not sure why it would necessarily rejig the entire cast just because one character no longer works at CoD. Two are still there, and I think since Faye accepts that she is at fault in losing her job there I feel that once her pride and psyche heal (and perhaps once she's moved on in employment also) she'll return as a customer & friend again. Even Marten started going back there after splitting with Dora and they had a horrid breakup. Yes both Faye & Dora feel like shit over Faye's departure from the payroll, but there is no conflict to my mind over why this occurred that should keep them apart once time begins doing its thing. Hope that makes sense. I think Elliott & SB are old news beyond Veronica's new love life - it'd be kinda weird to return there as a major setting. (To my recollection too Padma left to care for family members rather than to spread her wings? That whole arc seemed more an interlude story anyway.)

Now I'm really hoping we see what remains of Pintsize tomorrow tomorrow. I always secretly love it when strips are inadvertently uploaded early, but just as reliably end up regretting this when I realise the following day that I get no new QI for another 24 hours! It would fit well into the schedule however if 2889 showed Marten returning to his apartment to debooze it as promised, and this would naturally allow us to see how he's doing. Given that noone has shown ongoing anxiety about anything other than Faye's predicament - I mean, they don't seem distracted or sad about Pintsize, nor showing any resentment towards Faye for anything she may have done to him - I suspect he has simply drunk himself blotto and is resetting somehow at home.

No, I have no idea how the pathophysiology of an android might allow it to achieve blottodom. Perhaps he popped his bladder and shorted himself out. I doubt his identity, his self has been irreparably damaged, however. Perhaps he'll be relegated to a USB stick, blinking profanities in morse code with the little blue light, whilst his chassis dries out in a massive sack of rice...
Logged

Lubricus

  • Beyoncé
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 703
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #53 on: 02 Feb 2015, 02:22 »

I have little to no doubt that Pintsize was simply turned off by Faye for her to drink in peace. The lack of any drama regarding his wellbeing supports this, I feel.
Logged
What do you know about Pokémon?

NilsO

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 531
  • (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) Butts Butts Butts Butts
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #54 on: 02 Feb 2015, 03:20 »

I'm wondering whether Faye will end up working at the Secret Bakery? It's broadly the same sort of job she had at CoD but would be a change of scene. It also will bring her closer to a girl who I think would be the most powerful motive she could have to stay clean - She'd not want to risk her right to spend time with Sam for anything, IMO.
Jeph introduced the Secret Bakery as a kind of alternate (or bizarro) universe, where the cast is complementary (but different) to CoD. Faye and Renee are strangely similar, and both have had a relationship with Angus (they are his "type"). Therefore, Faye and Renee as colleagues is a recipe for disaster, and I do not think this will happen.

Sam is Marten's stepsister (OK, not formalized yet); therefore, there are plenty of reasons for Sam to get involved in Faye's recovery, without Faye working at the Secret Bakery. I guess Sam wants to hang out with them whenever possible, she does not care much for hanging out with friends her own age.

Wharrrrrrgarbl

  • Notorious N.U.R.R.
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #55 on: 02 Feb 2015, 03:40 »

Looks like Faye lied to her doctors about what's going on, because if she responded truthfully to a basic history regarding alcohol use, she would be getting admitted a psych ward.
I think if getting stuck into a psych ward is one of the usual outcomes when visiting the ER after alcohol abuse, a lot of people would be afraid to seek help.

I would have thought she emptied her entire supply of booze by now.

So, there are two possible scenarios here: either what Marten saw in strip 2881 was vomit made of booze and pills, or it was vomit made of booze and food. Let's take each in turn.

Booze and pills: given history of suicide attempt and mental health issues, it's malpractice not to consult psychiatry in the ED. Given history of suicide attempt and unclear history of intentional or accidental overdose, it's malpractice for the psychiatrist not to recommend a medical hold followed by inpatient psychiatric care. So assuming no malpractice, Marten didn't mention seeing pills (maybe he was too freaked out to give a good history), and Faye minimized what happened sufficiently for the ED doc to make medical decisions without thinking about a pill ingestion. Still bad form not to get a toxicology screen on somebody found down and brought to the ED, though it looks like Marten did it by private car instead of calling EMS, so more understandable. So the medical decision making probably played out more like scenario 2:

Booze, no pills: Faye has been drinking pints of hard liquor daily for what looks like a week, minimum. She drinks more than intended, she drinks when getting up in the morning, she drinks enough to get fired, she drinks enough to get brought to the emergency department. At minimum she meets criteria for a moderate alcohol use disorder, which should make the ED doc suspicious that whatever amount of drinking she endorsed to him or her is less than what she is actually drinking. Alcohol withdrawal can kill you (~5% in-hospital mortality, up to 50% at a year if untreated in some studies), and is absolutely an indication for admission. The only way she gets out of the ED without medical admission for alcohol withdrawal is if she states that she wants to continue drinking (does not appear congruent with her attitude in 2885), at which point she definitely meets criteria for a severe alcohol use disorder.

Marten may not have known about her getting fired, etc., and may not have been able to provide that history. Assuming no malpractice, Faye didn't tell her docs when they asked about it. If she had been admitted to the hospital, the history taken for the admission should include a psychiatric history, which should dig up the history of suicide attempt and big pile of recent psychosocial stressors. Now we're back in "was this a suicide attempt?" territory, and psychiatry should be consulted, though depending on the answers they get from her friends regarding safety/support, she might get linked with outpatient resources. There are some docs I know who might not consult psychiatry if she stated that she was not interested in talking to a psychiatrist, though.

So, if she's getting discharged from the emergency department, she did it through a combination of lying/evading questions that should come up in a basic history. If she got discharged from an inpatient hospital bed (which should be 3-7 days after admission, depending on what happens on the withdrawal front), and there were no pills, I can maybe see a way she gets discharged home instead of to the psych ward.

HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure I see a bunch of pills in the vomit in 2881, so I don't think Faye told them what actually happened, and Marten somehow forgot to mention the pills. If Faye has had been to a psychiatric hospital before (esp. involuntarily, as happens after some suicide attempts), then she may have decided to minimize her history in order to avoid a second stay. This is pretty common behavior.
Logged

swapna

  • Curry sauce
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 294
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #56 on: 02 Feb 2015, 04:55 »

Psych ward??

From  my experiences from bringing people to the hospital with alcohol poisoning: The doctors treat them, tell them 'well you overdid it there, lucky somebody called us', and then send them home. Especially if they're there the first time. They'll ask questions related to your well-being or search for indicators that you might need additional treatment, but that's all they do.

Pills in the vomit  - I don't think that there were any. If there were, the doctors do know about it. Why? It would have been in the EMT report if the EMTs saw them, and if Marten does have a tiny bit of common sense, he would have told them, since drugs do have contraindications with other drugs, and a sedative that's safe with alcohol might not be with other drugs.
Logged

NilsO

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 531
  • (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) Butts Butts Butts Butts
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #57 on: 02 Feb 2015, 06:25 »

Pills in the vomit  - I don't think that there were any. If there were, the doctors do know about it. Why? It would have been in the EMT report if the EMTs saw them, and if Marten does have a tiny bit of common sense, he would have told them, since drugs do have contraindications with other drugs, and a sedative that's safe with alcohol might not be with other drugs.
Also, we have no indications Faye has ever used pills. Alcohol has always been her preferred medication. If she tried to commit suicide, it could be questioned, but we have no indication she did try this. The vomit just look like the ordinary stinky soup with carrot bits. I would not suggest there are pills involved unless we had clear indications of this. Drawing vomit is probably difficult work, I do not think we should overanalyze this.

As for the couch - I guess the cushions already has been flipped too many times. Unless Hanners is able to clean up, I guess a new couch is a priority in the immediate future.

Neko_Ali

Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #58 on: 02 Feb 2015, 06:55 »

In regards to the recurring theme of 'Faye should work at the Secret Bakery'. No, I don't see it. They have a business relationship where they meet to trade goods on a daily basis. Even if they were looking to hire someone (which would be an amazing coincidence) it would mean having to keep dealing with Dora at work. Something I don't think Faye would want right now. Not to mention that Jim would want to know why she's not working for her friend anymore... Maybe she'll wind up working at another coffee shop in town. There are a ton, apparently. But I doubt it will be the Secret Bakery.
Logged

Carl-E

  • Awakened
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10,296
  • The distilled essence of Mr. James Beam himself.
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #59 on: 02 Feb 2015, 06:59 »

LAN Perk? 
Logged
When people try to speak a gut reaction, they end up talking out their ass.

Zebediah

  • Born in a Nalgene bottle
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3,072
  • I'm a bandicoot!
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #60 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:17 »

No, it's time for Faye to do something completely different.

Manager for Deathmøle. I'm calling it now.
Logged
"It CAN'T be a bad decision, it resulted in CARROT CAKE!"

cesium133

  • comeback tour!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,543
  • Has a fucked-up browser history
    • Cesium Comics
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #61 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:42 »

LAN Perk?
Considering what May ran into looking for a job, that might lead to an interesting scenario: "Sorry, we don't hire humans."
Logged
The nerdy comic I update on Saturdays: Cesium Comics

Unofficial character tag thingy for QC

jwhouk

  • Awakened
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10,380
  • The Valley of the Sun
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #62 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:45 »

Finally: it might be me, but Faye seems to be struggling slightly to remember the disarm sequence. I wonder how many times she has been caught by her own booby-trap?

Pun Jar. Now.
Logged
"Character is what you are in the Dark." - D.L. Moody
There is no joke that can be made online without someone being offended by it.
Life's too short to be ashamed of how you were born.
8645

Estron

  • Emoticontraindication
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 70
  • Old-fart QC aficionado
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #63 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:48 »

He doesn't always have a buffer, but this time he did and simply uploaded the wrong one first.
I'm imagining this being said by "The Most Interesting Man in the World" from the beer commercials.
Logged

BenRG

  • WoW gold miner on break
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 6,536
  • Boldly Going From The Back Seat!
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #64 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:48 »

Finally: it might be me, but Faye seems to be struggling slightly to remember the disarm sequence. I wonder how many times she has been caught by her own booby-trap?

Pun Jar. Now.

Unintentional, I assure you.  :angel:
Logged
~~~~

They call me BenRG... But I don't know why!

TRVA123

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,518
  • Just waiting to jump in with a peninsula joke.
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #65 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:52 »

Why is everyone so excited for Faye to get another barista job? I mean, meh? There's nothing wrong with that line of work, but I don't think Faye was ever super into it.

She should go to the art gallery, ask for an advance, and then make something. She could probably live comfortably on a comission a month.
Logged

Boomslang

  • Bizarre cantaloupe phobia
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 214
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #66 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:54 »

Considering what May ran into looking for a job, that might lead to an interesting scenario: "Sorry, we don't hire humans."

I really doubt that, barring deliberate joke on Jeph's part- the rationale behind not hiring AIs had at least something to do with allowing humans to work at least SOME jobs while AIs performed the ones only AI could do. Otherwise the AIs would be responsible for a lot of human suffering from unemployment and homelessness, and I really doubt they'd be okay with causing such a state of affairs. In addition, Faye would almost certainly not be qualified for any job specific to AI, and THAT would be the objection rather than her being human. Again, barring a deliberate joke, and I would expect that to be retracted in the next panel or comic.
Logged
Having to fight an adult deinonychus with a sharp rock is extremely scary. Granted, I only know this from dreams, but it makes complete sense.

Kiloku

  • Not quite a lurker
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #67 on: 02 Feb 2015, 07:55 »

To read the early comic or not to read, that is the question.

I feel so damn conflicted  :psyduck:
Logged

gprimr1

  • Furry furrier
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 174
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #68 on: 02 Feb 2015, 08:09 »

Def think it's food in her vomit, not pills. To many irregular shapes.
Logged

Neko_Ali

Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #69 on: 02 Feb 2015, 08:12 »

Why is everyone so excited for Faye to get another barista job? I mean, meh? There's nothing wrong with that line of work, but I don't think Faye was ever super into it.

She should go to the art gallery, ask for an advance, and then make something. She could probably live comfortably on a comission a month.

I don't know if people *want* her to get a job in another coffee shop it's just that she has shown talent for two things. Being snarky and welding. The only work experience she's shown has been the Coffee of Doom. As far as going to an art gallery and asking for money... I don't see that working. At all. There's a reason 'starving artists' are a thing. She had that one job literally fall into her lap and she could barely be bothered to do anything about it. That doesn't happen to most artists, who tend to spend years working at low paying jobs before selling anything.

Then again, this is a world where Sven can churn out a terrible song and get paid tons of money, and Jimbo makes a comfortable living writting about steampunk werewolf princesses...
Logged

DSL

  • Older than Moses
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4,041
    • Don Lee Cartoons
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #70 on: 02 Feb 2015, 08:15 »

Finally: it might be me, but Faye seems to be struggling slightly to remember the disarm sequence. I wonder how many times she has been caught by her own booby-trap?

Pun Jar. Now.

Unintentional, I assure you.  :angel:

No, no, take credit for it. Totally worth it.
Logged
"We are who we pretend to be. So we had better be careful who we pretend to be."  -- Kurt Vonnegut.

osaka

  • Scrabble hacker
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,434
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #71 on: 02 Feb 2015, 08:15 »

No, it's time for Faye to do something completely different.

Manager for Deathmøle. I'm calling it now.

Maybe that would allow her to work on her art as well, setting up massive metal stages not unlike those of the EDM acts in real life.

What. Deadmau5' stage is kickass.
Logged
Meh, if you have to run fsck, you're already fscked.

emilygrrl

  • Plantmonster
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 32
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #72 on: 02 Feb 2015, 09:55 »

Why is everyone so excited for Faye to get another barista job? I mean, meh? There's nothing wrong with that line of work, but I don't think Faye was ever super into it.

She should go to the art gallery, ask for an advance, and then make something. She could probably live comfortably on a comission a month.

Because it would be the Secret Bakery. That would be quite entertaining to see.
Logged
Quote from: Faye, strip 1462
Aww, it's been FOREVER since I've had to punch you! What a delightful wave of nostalgia!

azurite

  • Not quite a lurker
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #73 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:11 »

Still bad form not to get a toxicology screen on somebody found down and brought to the ED, though it looks like Marten did it by private car instead of calling EMS, so more understandable.

I think Marten called EMS. The fourth panel in 2882, when the EMT is taking her pulse, is at the apartment--it at least has the same color walls in the living room and the same walls/cabinets in the kitchen. If that's the case, the EMTs saw the vomit and would have noted the presence of pills. Also, I really can't see Marten trying to cover up a suicide attempt. If Faye had taken pills, it would have been addressed by this point.
Logged

MaxCaine

  • Notorious N.U.R.R.
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #74 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:14 »

Wherever Faye ends up, it's going to have to be somewhere where other members of the cast can and are willing to go to say hi.  That's what's so useful about CoD. It's not out of the way for any of the cast, people are always dropping in and out, it's great for framing scenes. You know, where everyone knows your name, and they're always glad you came. They want to be where they can see, their troubles are all the same. They want to be where everybody knows their name. If it is out of the way, if it's work to find reasons why the cast would be at Faye's place of work her job will slowly slide into the background and she's likely to become a patroness of CoD.
Logged

eschaton

  • Furry furrier
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 181
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #75 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:28 »

As I've said before, I really don't agree with the "Faye has further to fall" comments.  While Jeph clearly skipped over a lot of dialogue, it's clear that Faye realized (or was convinced) she needed to quit drinking, and while she's upset about what a fool she made of herself, is taking responsibility for her actions.  Plus so far it seems Jeph is modeling Faye's decline/recovery on his own, which would lead one to believe this was the wake up call, and she'll spontaneously recover from alcoholism without much outside help (besides maybe going back to her normal therapist). 

One possibility which hasn't been considered yet is Faye might start working at the library.  Marten could certainly ask Tai for it as a favor, once things have settled down.  This may cause...friction...between Tai and Dora, but it will probably be good for story purposes. 
Logged

Schmorgluck

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,847
  • Radical feminist
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #76 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:34 »

No, it's time for Faye to do something completely different.

Manager for Deathmøle. I'm calling it now.

Maybe that would allow her to work on her art as well, setting up massive metal stages not unlike those of the EDM acts in real life.

What. Deadmau5' stage is kickass.
So are Apocalyptica's metal thrones they sometimes have on stage.

I'm really impatient for Dr Corrinne's overdue reappearance.
Logged
“Oh yes, it hurts at times to be alone among the stars. But it hurts a lot more to be alone at a party. A lot more.” - George R. R. Martin

swapna

  • Curry sauce
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 294
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #77 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:44 »

I'm really impatient for Dr Corrinne's overdue reappearance.

yes... I miss her a lot. She was always funny, but usually had very good advice.  I don't know if I want to see her with Faye first, though, I'm curious about Hanners' sessions.
Logged

Schmorgluck

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,847
  • Radical feminist
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #78 on: 02 Feb 2015, 10:51 »

By the way, was Faye still seeing her? Maybe less frequently , since Faye was doing better lately? I don't know the usual protocols in the States.
Logged
“Oh yes, it hurts at times to be alone among the stars. But it hurts a lot more to be alone at a party. A lot more.” - George R. R. Martin

Neko_Ali

Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #79 on: 02 Feb 2015, 11:24 »

If it was covered by her insurance, then probably she was. Unless she was one of those that said 'Whelp, I have a boyfriend now, my relationship issues are over!' Which doesn't really sound like her. However, since we haven't seen the Doctor during this whole arc, she may have stopped going. I mean she would be the perfect person to be talking to about her worries over Angus getting the job and what it will mean. That is what she gets paid for after all.

For me it was a simple matter why I stopped going. I couldn't afford to go. My main reason was to get a hormone referral letter, but my doctor did help with talking about some of my other issues. But when my hours started to be cut at work, anything that was not essential (rent, bills, food) started getting cut away. There are times I wish I could go back, but I don't live in that area anymore, any my money still isn't great. I have bigger priorities to budget.
Logged

Isyrion

  • Emoticontraindication
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 51
  • Burn baby Burn!
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #80 on: 02 Feb 2015, 11:38 »

If it was covered by her insurance, then probably she was. Unless she was one of those that said 'Whelp, I have a boyfriend now, my relationship issues are over!' Which doesn't really sound like her. However, since we haven't seen the Doctor during this whole arc, she may have stopped going. I mean she would be the perfect person to be talking to about her worries over Angus getting the job and what it will mean. That is what she gets paid for after all.

For me it was a simple matter why I stopped going. I couldn't afford to go. My main reason was to get a hormone referral letter, but my doctor did help with talking about some of my other issues. But when my hours started to be cut at work, anything that was not essential (rent, bills, food) started getting cut away. There are times I wish I could go back, but I don't live in that area anymore, any my money still isn't great. I have bigger priorities to budget.

I think this would be a great place to bring back the doc for a few panels here and there.  Like I said earlier, it appears that Faye has bounced off the bottom, I'm hoping the rebound doesn't destroy her further.  So far I'm liking how Faye is dealing with this, much needed Character development for her and much needed in terms of character likability and sympathy for us readers.  Hopefully we see some of this for Dora as well.  (For the record I think Dora was justified in the firing and Faye was in the wrong.  But the character flaws of both of them caused the situation to spiral out of control, so it will be nice to see some more development her way)

Is it cold in here?

  • Administrator
  • Awakened
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19,937
  • He/him/his pronouns
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #81 on: 02 Feb 2015, 12:02 »

Welcome, new people!

Another advantage of a change of scenery is that it would give Jeph a chance to stretch himself and do new things. A brand new location would be best for that, but the suggestion of the space station makes more sense the more you think about it. Hannelore could swing it, she could become a creative welder for building research gadgets, and I can just see Hannelore in her room saying "Station? You know how you helped me? Faye needs help untangling herself. Will you do that for me?".
Logged
"Non-compliance is a social skill"
Quote from: an unnamed minister's sermon
In your face, darkness!  We are the light and we outnumber you!

NilsO

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 531
  • (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) (_!_) Butts Butts Butts Butts
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #82 on: 02 Feb 2015, 12:34 »

Another advantage of a change of scenery is that it would give Jeph a chance to stretch himself and do new things. A brand new location would be best for that, but the suggestion of the space station makes more sense the more you think about it. Hannelore could swing it, she could become a creative welder for building research gadgets, and I can just see Hannelore in her room saying "Station? You know how you helped me? Faye needs help untangling herself. Will you do that for me?".
Called it last week:
  • Personally, I am hoping Hanners invites Faye to the Station. Faye may get treatment there, and perhaps be offered a barista job. I suspect they really need better coffee up there. It could also lead to an even bigger quantum leap in creativity.
Of course, Jeph may have other ideas. But perhaps he will listen if enough Forum members support this idea?

Pilchard123

  • Vulcan 3-D Chess Master
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3,851
  • I always name them Bitey.
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #83 on: 02 Feb 2015, 13:22 »

I can just see Hannelore in her room saying "Station? You know how you helped me? Faye needs help untangling herself. Will you do that for me?".

'Are you satisfied with your care?'
Logged
Piglet wondered how it was that every conversation with Eeyore seemed to go wrong.

Aziraphale

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,529
  • Extra Medium
    • The First 10,000
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #84 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:00 »

It doesn't look to me that she's forgotten. If there was hesitation (...) or a verbal stumble (uh or hm), then I might believe it. Otherwise, it looks more like... not resignation, exactly, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just tiredness.

I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I'm also surprised the possibility hasn't been brought up yet. We're all assuming she's hit rock bottom because she said she screwed up. You can realize you've screwed up and just keep on going screwing up. Hell, she's been in therapy since shortly after The Talk, and look where that's gotten her. So what if that's not forgetting or hesitation, but deciding? As in, "Do I tell him about the fifth in the toilet tank or not? Or do I hope he finds that one so I don't have to mention the flask taped to the bed frame?"

I'd much prefer that she'd get it together, but 'til I see evidence that she's actually trying to do that, I remain skeptical.

Why is everyone so excited for Faye to get another barista job? I mean, meh? There's nothing wrong with that line of work, but I don't think Faye was ever super into it.

She should go to the art gallery, ask for an advance, and then make something. She could probably live comfortably on a comission a month.

I don't know if people *want* her to get a job in another coffee shop it's just that she has shown talent for two things. Being snarky and welding. The only work experience she's shown has been the Coffee of Doom. As far as going to an art gallery and asking for money... I don't see that working. At all. There's a reason 'starving artists' are a thing. She had that one job literally fall into her lap and she could barely be bothered to do anything about it. That doesn't happen to most artists, who tend to spend years working at low paying jobs before selling anything.

Then again, this is a world where Sven can churn out a terrible song and get paid tons of money, and Jimbo makes a comfortable living writting about steampunk werewolf princesses...

Here's the problem: like nearly anybody, Faye has to decide among things she'd be good at,  the things she'd actually like to do, and the ones that would allow her to make a living. She's shown aptitude at snark, coffee-making, and welding/sculpture. The first two skill sets are pretty common, while the third -- for which she has a genuine talent -- she doesn't seem to have either the inclination or the confidence to pursue. She comes off as someone who's pretty intelligent, but we haven't seen her really express any interest in doing anything (or, for that matter, stepping far enough out of the comfortable-if-stifling confines of CoD to make a change).
Logged
May goldfish leave Lincoln Logs in your sock drawer.

Omega Entity

  • Scrabble hacker
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,273
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #85 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:02 »

By the way, was Faye still seeing her? Maybe less frequently , since Faye was doing better lately? I don't know the usual protocols in the States.

I'm not in therapy yet, but my sister is, and her therapist decided she should be coming in once a week. So I imagine that it really, really depends on the person and their issues, and how serious they are.

As for an actual psychiatrist, I innitially saw mine once a month, when was then recently extended out to a two-and-a-half month gap once the medication seemed to be working well.

Warning - while you were typing a new psychosis has emerged. You may want to review how often your therapy sessions are.
Logged

Kugai

  • CIA Handler of Miss Melody Powers
  • Awakened
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11,503
  • Crazy Kiwi Shoujo-Ai Fan
    • My Homepage
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #86 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:09 »

The week begins

It'll be interesting to see how the drama plays out now.
Logged
James The Kugai 

You can never have too much Coffee.

SomeCanadianWeirdo

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 547
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #87 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:31 »

I could see Faye getting another coffee shop job, but I also suspect it won't last.  Instead she gets the job, finds the new job conditions too restrictive(most places aren't going to let her be as prickly towards the customers), and it helps her decide to do whatever it is that's planned for her storyline.

A permanent job at the Secret Bakery seems unlikely.  After all that would likely end up largely duplicating what's already been done.

And here's my longshot, unlikely to happen idea:  Faye somehow gets a job with the local talk radio station.  Imagine her doing a phone in show and dealing with the typical talk radio phone in show listeners.  Like Pintsize.  He'd probably love bothering the local equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, although he'd probably only get a chance to do it once before he was banned from calling again.
Logged

WareWolf

  • Bizarre cantaloupe phobia
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 232
  • Makin' This Up As I Go
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #88 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:50 »

Looks like Faye lied to her doctors about what's going on, because if she responded truthfully to a basic history regarding alcohol use, she would be getting admitted a psych ward.

I speak from bitter experience when I tell you it is really, really hard to get someone involuntarily admitted to a psych ward, and even harder to get them to keep them there.
Logged

Half Empty Coffee Cup

  • Psychopath in a hockey mask
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 609
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #89 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:51 »

And here's my longshot, unlikely to happen idea:  Faye somehow gets a job with the local talk radio station.  Imagine her doing a phone in show and dealing with the typical talk radio phone in show listeners.  Like Pintsize.  He'd probably love bothering the local equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, although he'd probably only get a chance to do it once before he was banned from calling again.
Pintsize would be impossible to effectively ban. Dude's an AI, he'd be pretty capable at getting around bans, spoofing fake numbers and such.
Logged
Mistakes, ahoy!

Kugai

  • CIA Handler of Miss Melody Powers
  • Awakened
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11,503
  • Crazy Kiwi Shoujo-Ai Fan
    • My Homepage
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #90 on: 02 Feb 2015, 15:17 »

Faye Whittaker, Mass. Radio Shock Jock.  :D
Logged
James The Kugai 

You can never have too much Coffee.

SomeCanadianWeirdo

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 547
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #91 on: 02 Feb 2015, 15:55 »

And how about Jimbo as her co-host/sidekick?
Logged

cesariojpn

  • Scrabble hacker
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,392
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #92 on: 02 Feb 2015, 16:04 »

And here's my longshot, unlikely to happen idea:  Faye somehow gets a job with the local talk radio station.  Imagine her doing a phone in show and dealing with the typical talk radio phone in show listeners.  Like Pintsize.  He'd probably love bothering the local equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, although he'd probably only get a chance to do it once before he was banned from calling again.

Nah, she gets a job at the sex toy shop. Hell, the owner seems cool about drinking on the job.
Logged

Mr. Black Licorice

  • Obscure cultural reference
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 137
  • ... and a bottle of rum.
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #93 on: 02 Feb 2015, 16:04 »

*Soapbox*

A few people have mentioned this, but I would like to put an exclamation mark on it... I want to see Faye go back to therapy, not only for the good of the story but also because it can be a powerful statement. Alcoholism often has a mental health aspect to it, and I want to see that explored. Mental Health issues are often treated with less respect than other health issues, and I feel that the Faye-recovery story line can help address that. Even if Jeph's work convinces only one person to seek help rather than suffer in silence (or worse), I think he should do it...

*Steps off Soapbox*
Logged

Omega Entity

  • Scrabble hacker
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,273
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #94 on: 02 Feb 2015, 16:13 »

And here's my longshot, unlikely to happen idea:  Faye somehow gets a job with the local talk radio station.  Imagine her doing a phone in show and dealing with the typical talk radio phone in show listeners.  Like Pintsize.  He'd probably love bothering the local equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, although he'd probably only get a chance to do it once before he was banned from calling again.

Nah, she gets a job at the sex toy shop. Hell, the owner seems cool about drinking on the job.
Which is exactly why it'd be a terrible idea for her to work there. The idea is to get her away from alcohol, not immerse herself in a place where her addiction would be condoned.
Logged

themacnut

  • Vagina Manifesto
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 689
    • The Vanguard-Superhero Space Opera Action
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #95 on: 02 Feb 2015, 18:18 »

It doesn't look to me that she's forgotten. If there was hesitation (...) or a verbal stumble (uh or hm), then I might believe it. Otherwise, it looks more like... not resignation, exactly, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just tiredness.

I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I'm also surprised the possibility hasn't been brought up yet. We're all assuming she's hit rock bottom because she said she screwed up. You can realize you've screwed up and just keep on going screwing up. Hell, she's been in therapy since shortly after The Talk, and look where that's gotten her.

Indeed, therapy has been no help with her recent issues. I'm guessing she either hasn't been going lately, or would not talk about her issues with Angus during her sessions. Probably didn't mention her drinking either...heck it makes more sense if she has simply stopped seeing Dr Corinne.

So what if that's not forgetting or hesitation, but deciding? As in, "Do I tell him about the fifth in the toilet tank or not? Or do I hope he finds that one so I don't have to mention the flask taped to the bed frame?"

I'd much prefer that she'd get it together, but 'til I see evidence that she's actually trying to do that, I remain skeptical.

Yep I'm wondering about this as well. Sure she admitted to the bottle in her underwear drawer, but was that her only stash? We probably won't find out for sure until after she's back in the apartment, but until then I too remain skeptical about her confession - it would be too easy to simply not mention any other hidden bottles.


Logged
The Vanguard - superhero space opera

SubaruStephen

  • Scrabble hacker
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,299
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #96 on: 02 Feb 2015, 18:22 »

Slightly off topic, click on the tiny "dord" link at the bottom of the QC homepage.
 :roll:
Logged
A "buttload" is an actual measurement, next time someone tells you that they need a buttload of something, tell them 126 gallons might be a bit too much.

Method of Madness

  • His Dudeness, or Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
  • Globe Moderator
  • Awakened
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 18,343
  • The Bootysattva
    • Me!
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #97 on: 02 Feb 2015, 18:30 »

(click to show/hide)
Logged
They call me Mr. Madness.

Quote from: Polonius
Though this be madness, yet there is method in't.
MR ARCHIVE-FU MADNESS
Does anybody really know what time it is?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Castlerook

Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #98 on: 02 Feb 2015, 19:40 »

Doom on Rodeo Drive?
Dora on Returns Delivered?
Dude, Onward Right Down?

Anyway, my non-existent powers of precogniscence tell me that Hanners is going to tear up a lot and that Faye is going to be snappy for a while as she goes sober.
Logged
Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart but I am street smart.", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I am imaginary smart."

cesium133

  • comeback tour!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,543
  • Has a fucked-up browser history
    • Cesium Comics
Re: WCDT 2887-2891 (2-6 February 2015)
« Reply #99 on: 02 Feb 2015, 19:46 »

George McFly: Lorraine. My dord has brought me to you.
Lorraine Baines: What?
George McFly: Oh. What I meant to say was...
Lorraine Baines: Wait a minute. Don't I know you from somewhere?
George McFly: Yes. Yes. I'm George. George McFly. I'm your dord. I mean, your density.
Logged
The nerdy comic I update on Saturdays: Cesium Comics

Unofficial character tag thingy for QC
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 22   Go Up