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Who Will Faye Meet and What Substance Are They Abusing?

Tai - Pot
- 11 (13.8%)
Sven - Luuurrrve
- 24 (30%)
Marten - Zen
- 3 (3.8%)
Dora - Coffee
- 5 (6.3%)
Jim - Muffins
- 6 (7.5%)
Sam - Cane Toad Secretions
- 10 (12.5%)
Hannelore - Antiseptic Mouthwash
- 14 (17.5%)
Dale - Maple Syrup
- 7 (8.8%)

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #300 on: 04 Mar 2015, 22:23 »

If you think Faye looks bad you should see the bear!
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #301 on: 04 Mar 2015, 22:37 »

Hm. I think Jeph may be using this week to refresh us on how many plot threads are being juggled right now.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #302 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:00 »

Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?
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« Reply #303 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:02 »

It bears mentioning that disliking Marigold's attitude and behaviour, and finding today's strip amusing aren't mutually exclusive. I found myself thinking "Oh, Marigold...", but the joke also made me smile.

Also, it occurs to me that I could've chosen to use a word other than "bears", which makes it sound like I'm awkwardly trying to make a terrible pun based on today's strip. Oh well, too late to change it now.
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« Reply #304 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:10 »

Also, it occurs to me that I could've chosen to use a word other than "bears", which makes it sound like I'm awkwardly trying to make a terrible pun based on today's strip.

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« Reply #305 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:19 »

Also, it occurs to me that I could've chosen to use a word other than "bears", which makes it sound like I'm awkwardly trying to make a terrible pun based on today's strip.

Don't fight it.  :claireface:

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« Reply #306 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:24 »


Also, it occurs to me that I could've chosen to use a word other than "bears", which makes it sound like I'm awkwardly trying to make a terrible pun based on today's strip. Oh well, too late to change it now.

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #307 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:25 »

She seems to be zoned into her book, and she might not have known Hanners was telling something serious. Or perhaps she can't handle drama very well.

I do seem to have problems sometimes remembering what people said seconds after they said it. Covering it up seems to come natural as you don't wan't to look unreliable.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #308 on: 04 Mar 2015, 23:38 »

Okay, Hanners? This is the moment that you're allowed to hit her!

In Marigold's defence, of all the recurring cast, she knows the core characters the least and has the weakest connections with them. It's hard to focus on the troubles of strangers. Is this Jeph's way of reminding us that, outside of their circle, the characters' travails are very small and trivial?

I feel that I have to say "mea culpa" here. I know someone who insists on telling me about the drama of her work colleagues' lives - a group of strangers whom I have never met. It's easy to blank out and either focus on things that do interest you or change the subject as soon as possible. The thing is, it's really rude and I would hate it if (and when) it happens to me. I've thus trained myself to at least listen and treat it as something important to someone close to me.

Marigold...? Well, she's demonstrated that she's bad at empathy and has outright told Momo that she would do something mean and selfish without even being fully aware of what she is doing. I'm not sure if that is a result of her lack of socialisation or if she's just a self-centered person who needs to be motivated to change a character flaw about which she is fully aware.


Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?

No matter how much she complains about it, she is generous with her time when friends need her help.

Apart from that, she's just sweet because of her social awkwardness but I think few of us would necessarily tolerate her bad qualities IRL.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #309 on: 05 Mar 2015, 00:12 »

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #310 on: 05 Mar 2015, 00:13 »

I think we're all taking Marigold's attitude a bit too seriously here. Being too absorbed in a book to listen to what someone is saying is fairly typical for Marigold, and the dialogue feels to me to be just a bit of comic relief. Nice to have a bit of a that off-the-wall old QC style, too.

Also this strip brings back Marigold, who we haven't seen for quite a while. We're surely due for a series of reintroductions of other recently absent members of the cast.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #311 on: 05 Mar 2015, 00:17 »

Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?

Honest, brave, hardworking, good to Momo almost always, friendly to Hannelore despite having to improvise the whole concept.

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #312 on: 05 Mar 2015, 00:31 »

It's all just hidden behind poor social skills.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #313 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:01 »

.....dammit, now I wanna see Dora/Claire ship. Thanks Jeph.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #314 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:13 »

They can be serious about work together.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #315 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:13 »

well done marigold. i would like to say that the idea Hannelore  is allowed to hit marigold for not listening is nonsense and should be withrdrawn.
the way mr. Jacques draws the anger and potential cruelty in Hannelore's eyes for the last panel is, I think, one of his best recent pieces of work.
and the strip is funny. today is a good qc day.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #316 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:27 »

They can be serious about work together.

If Dora doesn't kill Claire over her punnyness first.
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« Reply #317 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:30 »

.....dammit, now I wanna see Dora/Claire ship. Thanks Jeph.
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« Reply #318 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:36 »

the way mr. Jacques draws the anger and potential cruelty in Hannelore's eyes for the last panel is, I think, one of his best recent pieces of work.

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #319 on: 05 Mar 2015, 01:51 »

Maybe I just have a different type of friend, but if someone shows up at my house, I generally don't think its my responsibility to entertain them. Its one thing if plans were made and all that jazz, but this doesn't see like that is the situation here. I take my me time seriously. I actually stayed downstairs one time when we had unexpected visitors and my wife hung out with them. I just stayed in bed and said I had a migraine. There are times when I just can't be around people.

And if I was reading something when they came in, I probably wouldn't immediately put it down just because they got there. Granted, I might have more random junk around my house for friends to pick up and thumb through than Marigold has (my main social hobbies are board games and ttrpgs, and different friends will be looking through those). And I had another friend who would sit on a chair on her laptop while I sat on the couch with mine, and we would occasionally say something to each other, which one of us might miss if we had been in the middle of reading something.

We don't know enough context. Did they make plans to hang out that day? Did Hanners interrupt her day that Marigold had planned to recharge in order to tell her all about the drama of people she isn't that close with?

If its the first one, then yeah, Marigold is being kind of a dick. If its the second one, Marigold is trying to accommodate a friend who showed up, but has her own needs as well, and that is conflicting.
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« Reply #320 on: 05 Mar 2015, 02:29 »

Seriously, I think that Hannelore needs some help and support. One of her few human friends has just nearly drunk herself to death, been fired and is clearly in a bad place, emotionally. On top of her very clear pain at Faye no longer being a daily part of her working life, Hannelore has had to deal with said friend's peevish moods and general unhappiness for the past day whilst Marten was at work. She did a good job but it would be understandable if she needed some help herself after having to support Faye and help her keep focussed all day.

So, yeah, she went to her one friend who was likely not directly affected by this drama to vent and maybe get some emotional support. Unfortunately, Marigold isn't good at that... in fact she stinks at that.
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« Reply #321 on: 05 Mar 2015, 02:37 »

It never occurred to me that was a cry for help from Hanners. But Marigold would the the last person to recognise that or to know what to do about it.

Where's Momo with her social protocol database to spell it out in words of one syllable for her?
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #322 on: 05 Mar 2015, 03:08 »

Yea, i can sympathize with Hannelore's position here.

my partner is a great girl, creative, kind, but my god she cannot empathize to save her life. example in case, i was on the train to see her, the station i was due to arrive at was closed, i text to say i'll be delayed. 2 hours later i am still trying to get through london, i text her appologizing for the lateness and bemoaning the travel situation. all i get back is a next from her complaining that a shirt she got for Christmas doesn't fit right.
i'm trying to make her more aware of the fact without seeming pushy or demanding.
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« Reply #323 on: 05 Mar 2015, 03:39 »

Yea, i can sympathize with Hannelore's position here.

my partner is a great girl, creative, kind, but my god she cannot empathize to save her life. example in case, i was on the train to see her, the station i was due to arrive at was closed, i text to say i'll be delayed. 2 hours later i am still trying to get through london, i text her appologizing for the lateness and bemoaning the travel situation. all i get back is a next from her complaining that a shirt she got for Christmas doesn't fit right.
i'm trying to make her more aware of the fact without seeming pushy or demanding.

another way to look at that is that she didn't mind you being late, and if she's familiar with London, (not just London really, the whole of the uk has bad public transport), and it's transport issues she probably wasn't even surprised that you were going to be late.
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« Reply #324 on: 05 Mar 2015, 04:02 »

I just don't think that the subject matters, nor that it should matter in the first place, if we ever want to get to the truly progressive societal end result that we supposedly want to get to.

And in the process, you've just displayed why relationships fail; it's because people don't open themselves up and keep things secret, which in turn, causes miscommunication......like what just happened with Tai & Dora. 
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« Reply #325 on: 05 Mar 2015, 04:42 »

Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?

Honest, brave, hardworking, good to Momo almost always, friendly to Hannelore despite having to improvise the whole concept.

Previous discussion.

Wait, would that be Marigold proper or her WoW character? I mean, to be fair, we've seen counterexamples to all those adjectives, and while it's true that she's displayed them from time to time, they hardly seem like actual traits so much as situational flukes. I mean, I've been brave a few times, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm primarily a weak, milquetoast sack of shit.
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« Reply #326 on: 05 Mar 2015, 04:45 »

I try to like Marigold, I really do. The fanbase generally seems to like her, Jeph has mentioned at one point that he's her favorite character...but then she pulls shit like this. I know it's meant for comedy, but she's evolved from "sort of endearing social recluse making something of an effort" to "complacent, petulant, self-centered womanchild (manchild is a thing, so why not womanchild?) who doesn't particularly give a rats ass about anyone but herself"

A few sweet moments with Momo isn't enough to sell me on her, and it's strips like this that reenforce why.

Indeed.  Out of all of the strip characters, she is the only one I really see nothing positive in.  Except maybe that she sometimes tries to be a good person.  Or rather, at one point tried.  And I'm saying this as a socially awkward introvert.  She reminds me of all of the wince-worthy qualities I had when I was at maximum awkwardness, without being leavened with things like...I dunno...intellectual interests, deep levels of concern for the few friends you have, etc. 

I hope Dale get's sick of her and moves on at some point, as he's a great example of a socially awkward introvert with a lot of redeeming qualities.  Honestly, I mildly ship Dale and Dora.  They're both hyper-responsible people, and would seem to make a very stable match. 
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #327 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:07 »

You know, todays page got me thinking? when has Marigold ever met claire?

the lake house, where Marigold spent more time playing Nes than socializing?

i honestly don't remember them meeting other than then
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« Reply #328 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:20 »

You know, todays page got me thinking? when has Marigold ever met claire?

She might know Claire on sight as one of Momo's co-workers but that's it.

Marigold probably knows Marten as Pintsize's room-mate (she's rebooted him for Marten at least once) and Momo's co-worker and Dora as Dale's boss. Faye she'd probably know a bit better as Angus's ex. However, given the whole unrequited crush on Angus thing and the fact that Faye and Angus had a pretty traumatic break-up, she might be less than interested in Faye's problems.

Hannelore is  the only real close personal connection between the core cast and Marigold, who is mostly an outer part of the CoD circle (Dale's GF and Hannelore's bestie).
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« Reply #329 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:22 »

You know, todays page got me thinking? when has Marigold ever met claire?

She might know Claire on sight as one of Momo's co-workers but that's it.

Marigold probably knows Marten as Pintsize's room-mate (she's rebooted him for Marten at least once) and Momo's co-worker and Dora as Dale's boss. Faye she'd probably know a bit better as Angus's ex. However, given the whole unrequited crush on Angus thing and the fact that Faye and Angus had a pretty traumatic break-up might leave her less than interested in Faye's problems. Hannelore is  the only real close personal connection between the core cast and Marigold, who is mostly an outer part of the CoD circle (Dale's GF and Hannelore's bestie).


I dunno, Marten was pretty integral to the process of getting Marigold out of the apartment and into some storylines that made her a (very overrated, IMHO) breakout character for awhile. Remember him going "all beer mentor" on her at the Revelation, for instance? This was before Hannelore/Marigold became the strip's resident Oscar/Felix.
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« Reply #330 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:24 »

Marten and Marigold also went to friggin' SPACE together!
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« Reply #331 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:26 »

Marten and Marigold also went to friggin' SPACE together!

That's right! Marten is indirectly responsible for Marigold's introduction to the magical world of wiener-touching!
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #332 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:40 »

Marigold has hung out with the gang at Marten's apartment before, and the Coffee of Doom is or was one of the few places she would go to and hang out when she wasn't at home. She may not be close friends with most of the cast, but they are not strangers to her.

I am beginning to find the conversations around the comics rather disheartening. Either we have a bunch of strips where people are being cute and squee-worthy and many people complain that it's to much, the characters are to flat and there is no dramatic tension. Or there is some sort of drama going on, and everyone wants to rip all the characters involved to shreds, psychoanalyzing every comment and declaring that the characters are the Worst People Ever. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #333 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:45 »

Well, you shouldn't have swallowed your hands in the first place!  :claireface:
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« Reply #334 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:48 »

I kind of see the last few strips as a "communication is important for relationships!" PSA. Marten and Claire have healthy communication, and all is unicorns and rainbows. Dora and Tai did not communicate well(for which both are at fault) and now Marigold and Hannelore(In which Marigold is being a bit rude. I've had friends where we pretty much do our own thing, but if one of us is actually trying to engage in conversation, the other makes a point to listen.)

Now, I really like Marigold, as awkward and childish as she is. But I do hope Hannelore informs her on how she is being impolite. You don't need to care about other people's drama, but you should care about an upset friend.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #335 on: 05 Mar 2015, 05:52 »

Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?

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« Reply #336 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:02 »

Genuine question: What are Marigold's redeeming qualities?

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It's not funny to joke that a character's only good trait is their breasts.

Oh, for fuck's sake. Marigold's "Homeric bosoms" have been a running joke practically since she was introduced. It's not like the OP just noted that they're drawn larger than other female characters' and is now the first to comment on it. This was as lighthearted a joke as they come, and only plays off of a gag that the author himself established.

If anyone believes that the original joke or my bland defense of same is misogynistic, I'd be happy to explain why I disagree but please refrain from allusions to fedoras and neck beards. I hate meninism and libertarianism too, but that joke is already staler than a gas station hot dog at closing time.

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #337 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:05 »

I am beginning to find the conversations around the comics rather disheartening. Either we have a bunch of strips where people are being cute and squee-worthy and many people complain that it's to much, the characters are to flat and there is no dramatic tension. Or there is some sort of drama going on, and everyone wants to rip all the characters involved to shreds, psychoanalyzing every comment and declaring that the characters are the Worst People Ever. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.
I'm starting to get to this point myself.
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« Reply #338 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:06 »

I am beginning to find the conversations around the comics rather disheartening. Either we have a bunch of strips where people are being cute and squee-worthy and many people complain that it's to much, the characters are to flat and there is no dramatic tension. Or there is some sort of drama going on, and everyone wants to rip all the characters involved to shreds, psychoanalyzing every comment and declaring that the characters are the Worst People Ever. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.
I'm starting to get to this point myself.

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« Reply #339 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:26 »


Hardcore fandom is a double-edged sword.

Double edged sword being a very famous hardcore.... oh wait that isn't what you mean is it?

Well, you shouldn't have swallowed your hands in the first place!  :claireface:

I hereby relinquish my 'worst joke of the thread' tiara to you.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #340 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:38 »

Or there is some sort of drama going on, and everyone wants to rip all the characters involved to shreds, psychoanalyzing every comment and declaring that the characters are the Worst People Ever. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.

This forum, anytime someone says anything with potential for subtext in this comic:
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #341 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:47 »

r. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.

To be fair,having a lot of people overanalyzing your comic is a sign that your comic is very successful. Most web comics don't get any comments at all.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #342 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:55 »

I am beginning to find the conversations around the comics rather disheartening. Either we have a bunch of strips where people are being cute and squee-worthy and many people complain that it's to much, the characters are to flat and there is no dramatic tension. Or there is some sort of drama going on, and everyone wants to rip all the characters involved to shreds, psychoanalyzing every comment and declaring that the characters are the Worst People Ever. I guess it's a good thing I don't write a web comic. I probably would have just thrown up my hands by now.
I'm starting to get to this point myself.
I always find myself defending characters, because it seems like every character has a hateclub ready to jump on them the moment they do anything even remotely not perfect.

I swear, if some of the people in the forum were as strict with the behavior of real life people as they are with QC characters, there is no way they actually still have friends.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #343 on: 05 Mar 2015, 06:57 »

If I was reading Sexy Fairy Men and someone started talking to me about townie drama I wouldn't be listening either.

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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #344 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:05 »

If I was reading Sexy Fairy Men and someone started talking to me about townie drama I wouldn't be listening either.

Don't wake the sleep-walker. Don't distract the driver. Don't talk to the bookworm.

"Townie" in the context of Northampton is a pretty empty term, since it pretty much just means anyone who lives in that town and isn't part of the self-important, trust-fund-intensive Smith College bubble.

But more important than that, I think people are taking issue with Marigold's boorishness - in-character though it might be - not because she really needs to hear this stuff but because it's important to Hanners, who asks for so little. Not that it should come as any surprise, since Hanners has done basically all the heavy friendship lifting. I hope she "asserts [her]self" again tomorrow.

I mean, really, what has Marigold ever done for Hanners besides allowing her to watch a WoW raid while breathing in a cloud of beef jerky farts?
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #345 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:20 »

I mean, really, what has Marigold ever done for Hanners besides allowing her to watch a WoW raid while breathing in a cloud of beef jerky farts?

She gave her (possibly terabytes of) sexy man pictures.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #346 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:21 »

"Townie" in the context of Northampton is a pretty empty term, since it pretty much just means anyone who lives in that town and isn't part of the self-important, trust-fund-intensive Smith College bubble.

Not really true.  Northampton is close enough to Amherst that many UMass grad students (and even some upperclassmen) choose to live there rather than Amherst.  Which makes sense, because Amherst is basically a big suburb with two semi-decent blocks. 

As for Marigold, I don't like her as a character at all, but I'm not saying she's poorly written, out of character, or that Jeph doesn't use her correctly in the strip in general (e.g., in her role as comic relief).  I'm just saying as a real human being, she would demonstrably suck. 
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #347 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:23 »

I wonder if Jeph is trying to set up an omnishambles in Marten and Claire's social circles - possibly as a direct "fuck you" to those who said there's too much squee.

Angus nudged Faye over the brink
Sven and Faye are pushing Dora over the brink
Faye and Marigold are pushing Hanners over the brink
Dora's now hurt Tai
Who knows what'll happen with Clinton and Emily
Dora being pushed over the brink will put further strain on Hanners, and strain on Penny and Cosette
Penny and Cosette being strained will affect Wil and Steve
Faye's also putting strain on Marten, and Tai will probably put strain on Claire somehow
Faye being fired will put strain on Sam, which may put strain on Jim, which may affect Veronica, Renee, and Elliott
Wil being strained may rub off on Elliott too
All of this relationship drama will rub off on Amir, too. And don't forget Clairemom, too.

There, every current character that lives or works in Northampton, affected negatively by the fallout of Angus breaking up with Faye.

Except for a certain Dr. Buenvenida. She's rolling in the kilobucks.
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #348 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:34 »

Aside: so what is the meaning of those little stars that appear above some people's avatars?
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Re: WCDT 2907-2911 (2nd - 6th March 2015)
« Reply #349 on: 05 Mar 2015, 07:36 »

"Townie" in the context of Northampton is a pretty empty term, since it pretty much just means anyone who lives in that town and isn't part of the self-important, trust-fund-intensive Smith College bubble.

Not really true.  Northampton is close enough to Amherst that many UMass grad students (and even some upperclassmen) choose to live there rather than Amherst.  Which makes sense, because Amherst is basically a big suburb with two semi-decent blocks. 

As for Marigold, I don't like her as a character at all, but I'm not saying she's poorly written, out of character, or that Jeph doesn't use her correctly in the strip in general (e.g., in her role as comic relief).  I'm just saying as a real human being, she would demonstrably suck.

1st Paragraph: Agree to disagree. Having lived in both towns (Amherst for 3 years, NoHo for 2), I think trying to paint them as drastically different communities requires exaggeration. They're both small college towns surrounded by rural farmland. Downtown Northampton is marginally larger and has a slightly more vibrant, less bro-douchey vibe, but that's about it. And by Renee's standard - the only time the term "townie" has been explicitly used in comic, iirc - those Amherst transplants would be townies too.

2nd Paragraph: Totally agree. I'm not knocking Jeph's characterization. The only character I think of as a general is fire is May. I'm just saying, like you, that Marigold doesn't have a lot of redeeming qualities.
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