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Marten

6 (9%)

Faye

18 (26.9%)

Dora

8 (11.9%)

Hannelore

8 (11.9%)

Momo

7 (10.4%)

Marigold

3 (4.5%)

Claire

11 (16.4%)

Other (please specify in comment)

6 (9%)

Total Members Voted: 63

Voting closed: 29 Apr 2015, 05:04

[Gladstone]

And ugh, the old version worked so much better. Especially Claire's line.

I know!  Didn't even clash with continuity.  We should start a petition to convince Jeph to change it back.

[Rghfrgl]

He didn't even know how right he'd be!

https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/592757427331805188

I'll agree probably could have just let this one slide though. Unless tomorrow you kinda redo it(In the first panel, not the punchline, since that'd be kinda cheating people out a comic). 'I saw it coming anyway back at the wedding', then repeat Claire and Marten's line. Wouldn't mind the conversation continuing from there. 'I figured you knew the moment you saw her in that gorgeous dress'.

Claire meanwhile, knew once she saw him in his boxers 

[Quantum Glass]

In her mind, I'm sure she didn't just call it, she made it happen

Jemf Jecks @jephjacques  ·  49s 49 seconds ago
Haha I totally forgot Marten's mom ran into them while they were holding hands! TIME FOR A REWRITE

Speaking of calling it. Called it!

Speaking of rewrites, I could have sworn that comic you linked to originally had Veronica talking about Marten and Claire producing cute children (Hence the title, "Yougenics.")

[Method of Madness]

It did, but he had a good reason for changing that one.

[Rghfrgl]

I thought changing that one was unnecessary, but as neither the author or one of the potential people who might be offended that opinion should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

[valkygrrl]

I thought changing that one was unnecessary, but as neither the author or one of the potential people who might be offended that opinion should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

You can just join my headcanon, those babies are cute and they have little shirts that say 'my grandmother spanks people.'

[StellaVator]

I like the re-write much better. What is it about Claire's old line that people like so much? It's not particularly clever or humorous, just the same "cutesy" sitcom-y stuff that's been surrounding them.

The re-write is better because Marten's "Oh shit I forgot" is actually FUNNY because Jeph really did forget. And dedicated readers will know that going forward.

[Indicible]

A dialog coud work both in:

Veronica: Hardly a surprise! I saw you two holding hands!
Marten: (don't change the new quote)
Claire: Well, that was an anjoyable surprise to me!

Oh, well, sometimes, you have those speeches perfect in your head and then reality ensues...

[BenRG]

FWIW, the original dialogue was still valid, even factoring in continuity. Give Veronica credit; she's observant enough that she could see as far back as the wedding Claire's crush and Marten's interest. Interestingly, whilst both versions of panel 4 verge on meta comments/jokes, the original suggests that Jeph was thinking about Claireten back when doing the wedding arc.

I do like Claire's body language in panel 2 - she is a little nervous and hopeful for Veronica's approval. Panel 4, oddly is a twin of panel 4 of strip 2940: comfortable intra-couple teasing. Finally, the placement of both of them's hands indicates that they are still deep in 'Honeymoon Mode'.

So, will Veronica want to help Faye? There is some indication that she may struggle with alcohol abuse herself, so she might be the strong older female mentor that she needs.

[Sullivan]

booo, she cut her hair! Only Claire and Penelope remain in the long hair club.

If Claire's hair gets cut I'm quitting reading the comic. Fair warning.

No, I won't really. But I want Jeph to believe that a whole lot of people will.

[BenRG]

Over on the Subreddit, one poster suggested that Marten is acting a bit self-centred in this strip and I do see where that's coming from. However, you have to see things from Marten's perspective. He must have spent days worrying about Faye and beating himself up for not realising just how overwhelmingly breaking up with Angus had hurt her. I think that he really doesn't want to spend too much time looking back on those dark hours listening to the ECG ticking off Faye's heartbeats; thinking about those minutes waiting for the EMTs to arrive and wondering what he'd do if Faye were to stop breathing before they arrived. No, he really doesn't want to think about those days and the times coming after. On the whole, he'd prefer to talk about the light and how wonderful being with Claire makes him feel.

Additionally, I do think that Marten is in a bit of denial about Faye. "You're alright now, right?" A part of him seriously doesn't want to confront just how close Faye came or the total paradigm shift she's going to have to execute for the sake of her health and sanity. I'm wondering what it will take to cure him of that?

I agree that Marten came across as unnecessarily callous here and I wouldn't have blamed Veronica if she'd reprimanded him for it. In some ways, I think that she did by waving off his 'in other news' as no news. What I'm saying is that Marten's feelings and the way he responded to them are understandable. What he did here is far from praiseworthy but it is completely and understandably human.

[edit]
Better wording in last paragraph

[ZoeB]

"Poor Faye"

I've come to the conclusion that I like Veronica. Even though she's about as different from me as possible. I'm more like Clairemom.

And of course to her, holding hands is far more intimate than merely bonking.

[snubnose]

And of course to her, holding hands is far more intimate than merely bonking.

...

???

I dont get it.

Why would she think holding hands is more intimate than sex ?

[Undrneath]

Because it implies a much deeper spiritual/ emotional intimacy than sex. It is easier to imagine people having casual sex than it is to imagine people holding hands and not having some sort of deeper connection.

[ASB84]

I like the re-write much better. What is it about Claire's old line that people like so much? It's not particularly clever or humorous, just the same "cutesy" sitcom-y stuff that's been surrounding them.

The re-write is better because Marten's "Oh shit I forgot" is actually FUNNY because Jeph really did forget. And dedicated readers will know that going forward.

Me too. The meta aspect of Marten's re-written dialogue brought a smile to my face. It's a fun wink to us, the audience.

[snubnose]

Because it implies a much deeper spiritual/ emotional intimacy than sex. It is easier to imagine people having casual sex than it is to imagine people holding hands and not having some sort of deeper connection.

Okay, I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

I would have rated having sex with somebody WAY more intimate than holding hands. *shrugs*

[TieDyeKat]

I was not wrong about Veronica's interest in Faye.  Very curious if she goes to her... like she did when she sought out Dora.  Veronica may not be playing Faye's mom, but she does care about her son and about the people who keep her son sane. 

[BenRG]

Every time I read today's strip, I love Claire's body language in panel 4 all the more. She's leaning into Marten obviously with her right hand on his hip/butt and has her other hand on his chest as if she's holding him back; it all shows she's completely comfortable with him. Her face is saying: "I have to apologise for my boyfriend; he's an absent-minded goof but I kind of prefer it that way."

FWIW, I think that Marten was walking on clouds and, possibly mentally reciting the mantra "Don't screw up! Don't screw up!" during the first date. I doubt he remembers any interaction during that other than with Claire.

Ah! Young love! [/bittersingleton]

[jwhouk]

Her new hair's ok, I guess. Her old hair was ok, I guess.

It's hair, I guess. And if she had no hair, that would be ok, too, I guess.

And that's OK.

SHOTANDAGOAL!

DSL scoring his Umpteenth goal of the season, assisted by Cesium133 and Method of MADNESS!

Time of goal 12:37.

[TinPenguin]

Because it implies a much deeper spiritual/ emotional intimacy than sex. It is easier to imagine people having casual sex than it is to imagine people holding hands and not having some sort of deeper connection.

Okay, I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

I would have rated having sex with somebody WAY more intimate than holding hands. *shrugs*

When sex is (in some form) your profession, it changes your perception of intimacy.

[Aziraphale]

I thought changing that one was unnecessary, but as neither the author or one of the potential people who might be offended that opinion should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

You can just join my headcanon, those babies are cute and they have little shirts that say 'my grandmother spanks people.'

With fine print underneath that says "(except me)"

[aliensporebomb]

Well, I can't predict what will happen in this weeks' strips but I pretty much can predict what won't happen:  unicorn wars, all the characters show up bald and hanners becomes queen of the universe.

[Thrillho]

Because it implies a much deeper spiritual/ emotional intimacy than sex. It is easier to imagine people having casual sex than it is to imagine people holding hands and not having some sort of deeper connection.

Okay, I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

I would have rated having sex with somebody WAY more intimate than holding hands. *shrugs*

You don't hold hands with a one night stand.

[Mr_Rose]

Well, I can't predict what will happen in this weeks' strips but I pretty much can predict what won't happen:  unicorn wars, all the characters show up bald and hanners becomes queen of the universe.

Well of course not. You can't suddenly become what you already are….

[stank sinatra]

lol, she shure is violently assaulting her adult son

Coming back to this, as gross as it is for an adult woman to violently assault her adult offspring, the fact that she's a professional dominatrix adds in all kinds of disgusting additional layers of both incestuousness and professional misconduct.

Like, when you get paid to get off on hurting people, you really especially shouldn't be dealing with situations by inflicting pain on your children without their consent.

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You have already been warned that this line of conversation is inappropriate and unacceptable. Continuation of this will result in punative action and possibly Ultimate Sanction. Please desist from any further continuation of this subject.I mean, unless the entire reason you became a dominatrix is because you're an awful person with a violently abusive personality, I guess.

[Thrillho]

Yeahhhh that line of discussion stops now please.

[pwhodges]

In any case, I can't see why you think her profession factors into this at all.  You may object to her "violently assaulting" her son (if that's how you characterise tweaking his ear in a familiar manner), but that would be the same judgement whatever her job might be.

The rest of your speculation has nothing to do with anything that has ever been shown in this comic, so it is inappropriate to bring it up.

[jheartney]

We should start a petition to convince Jeph to change it back.

Count me for signing that one. The original dialogue was deft and implied some gentle snark. The new script is too literal, and lands with a thud. Since Veronica could have been referring to seeing it coming as far back as the wedding, and since there was no explicit acknowledgment of relationship status in the Mom-selfies strip, it wasn't even a continuity error. CHANGE IT BACK.

[Aziraphale]

So say we all.

[Method of Madness]

Eh, both exist and we can decide which one we think of as canon.

[osaka]

COMIC

I assume Veronica was painted like one of their French girls indeed. I feel as if the model whale penis can be a hindrance to coffee table usage tho.

[DrBear]

And Wednesday's strip arrives, with nudity and animal genitalia.

[valkygrrl]

My uh... gee.

That happened.

The words 'whale penis' are going to be stuck in my head for weeks.

[Aziraphale]

[jwhouk]

Other than that, it's a pretty nice place.

Must be a newer building with those vertical windows.

[bhtooefr]

Is it just me, or is the perspective in panel 3 off?

Claire's going to be leaning quite far forward to touch the model whale penis based on the room's scale in panel 1, yet her abdomen is shown as significantly wider than her thorax - more so than when her full figure is normally drawn, even, when it should be the opposite, as she's leaning into the camera.

Also, having a nude portrait of oneself in one's living room is just strange, Veronica.

[Aziraphale]

COMIC

I assume Veronica was painted like one of their French girls indeed. I feel as if the model whale penis can be a hindrance to coffee table usage tho.

I suppose that all depends on how you use your coffee table.

Is it just me, or is the perspective in panel 3 off?

Claire's going to be leaning quite far forward to touch the model whale penis based on the room's scale in panel 1, yet her abdomen is shown as significantly wider than her thorax - more so than when her full figure is normally drawn, even, when it should be the opposite, as she's leaning into the camera.

The perspective would be correct-ish if she were sitting straight up and reaching an arm out. But she'd have to lean forward unless they moved the coffee table back before sitting down.

[Gladstone]

Also, having a nude portrait of oneself in one's living room is just strange, Veronica.

You're supposed to hang it over your bed, like Steve does.

...Has Veronica ever met Steve?  Hmm...

[mustang6172]

The whale penis is smaller than I expected.   

[cesium133]

The whale penis is smaller than I expected.   

Marten: "It's only a little smaller than mine."

[TheEvilDog]

Hmmm, that apartment certainly looks a little bare.

[jheartney]

The whale penis is smaller than I expected.   

Obviously not full size. Real ones can be up to 8', apparently.

It must be counterweighted so as not to fall over.

[Aziraphale]

Hey now. Maybe the whale was just cold.

[valkygrrl]

Already thinking about what to say when this makes the captions thread.

[jheartney]

The fun part will be when Jim brings Sam over for dinner with the new squeeze. I'm sure the furnishings will be a big hit.

[Rghfrgl]

Also, having a nude portrait of oneself in one's living room is just strange, Veronica.

What? You can't keep it in the dining room!

[Omega Entity]

Is it just me, or is the perspective in panel 3 off?

Claire's going to be leaning quite far forward to touch the model whale penis based on the room's scale in panel 1, yet her abdomen is shown as significantly wider than her thorax - more so than when her full figure is normally drawn, even, when it should be the opposite, as she's leaning into the camera.

The perspective would be correct-ish if she were sitting straight up and reaching an arm out. But she'd have to lean forward unless they moved the coffee table back before sitting down.

She's have to be leaning waaaay forward. It also seems to be too far to the right in relationship to the end of the couch, if the coffee table is centered in front of the sofa as people usually do.

[Neko_Ali]

I fear the coat rack. Fear it.

[Rghfrgl]

It's a actual rack. You just throw your coats on it and try and ignore the customer strapped to it.

[Undrneath]

My uh... gee.

That happened.

The words 'whale penis' are going to be stuck in my head for weeks.

It's a literal dork