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Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« on: 01 May 2015, 13:16 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2015, 13:22 »

I admit that I vote in hope rather than any real expectation. That said, the whole 'townies' and 'out-of-towners' duelling perspectives could be great in many ways.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2015, 15:59 »

There comes the day/when April is done/You'll seeeeee/It's gonna (gonna gonna gonna gonna)...IT'S GONNA BE MAY
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #3 on: 01 May 2015, 16:21 »

Pokin' Sticks & Pitchforks and Torches for me.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #4 on: 01 May 2015, 16:59 »

Ardent seemed to be doing just fine with Miss Wheelwright before he overplayed his hand. She might give him a second chance.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #5 on: 01 May 2015, 17:46 »

"I apologize for my actions Ms. Wheelwright. Where I come from, we're told that we should touch the booty at all times"
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #6 on: 01 May 2015, 23:43 »

Depending on how he approaches her, the uninhabited ways of the space folk may be... intriguing to her.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2015, 11:48 »

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Ardent... HOW SWAY. JUST HOW.

Also, a 1h walk isn't too much at all, but I assume that in the vicissitudes' original society they don't have long distances.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #8 on: 02 May 2015, 11:56 »

HOW SWAY. JUST HOW.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2015, 12:04 »

HOW SWAY. JUST HOW.
I don't get that reference.

Kanye West got supermad on Sway's radio show.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #10 on: 02 May 2015, 12:06 »

...Sway is still around? I thought he disappeared when MTV News did.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2015, 12:21 »

Aaannnd that's #28583 on Gavia's list of reasons why Ardent has pretty much ruined her life from the moment it began.

Now, I wonder how long it's going to take Alice to realise that maybe Gavia isn't as simple to understand as she thought. Oh, there's no question that Ardent is as simple to understand as she thinks. Gavia on the other hand? Well, she's been the one asking all the smart questions so far.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2015, 14:13 »

Honestly, someone at some stage is going to HAVE to address Gavias constant use of her 'Hover Mode' and excessive use of her Nanotech.  She's going to have to fit into this society she's going to have to learn to fit in to their way of life.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #13 on: 02 May 2015, 14:14 »

...why? Their "way of life" involves using all the technology available to them. Why shouldn't she?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #14 on: 02 May 2015, 15:00 »

Would you want to stick out like a sore thumb 24/7 in a society like that - ES[ECIALLY after the way you 'introduced' yourself?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #15 on: 02 May 2015, 15:01 »

Walking isn't going to make people forget. I'd want to fly if I could.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #16 on: 02 May 2015, 15:29 »

Would you want to stick out like a sore thumb 24/7 in a society like that

Ardent clearly does.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #17 on: 02 May 2015, 16:38 »

Have we ever actually seen Gavia with her feet on the ground? I'm beginning to wonder if she even knows how to walk.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #18 on: 02 May 2015, 16:56 »

Gavia's walking in panel 1 here.  I don't know why her feet are all lumpy, though.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #19 on: 03 May 2015, 00:24 »

They aren't lumpy; it's just the angle of a pair of feet wearing only socks. I have no doubt that she doesn't routinely use her feet.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #20 on: 03 May 2015, 05:43 »

Gavia floats because A) she can, B) she does not own shoes, C) she does not want to go barefoot. Come on. Those clean, pure white socks would be ruined soon enough if they touched dirt.

Some townfolks may want to reach for a pitchfork, but... the Vicissitudes are in Alice's company, and therefore none of their business.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #21 on: 03 May 2015, 13:22 »

I get wanting to fly, but who doesn't love the feel of grass beneath their bare feet? Socks? Weird.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #22 on: 03 May 2015, 14:04 »

I'm starting to think that the whole floating thing is a somewhat subconscious thing by Gavia whose trying to deny the fact that they may be trapped there for the rest of their existence.  I think the first time we really see her walking round normally will be the moment when she finally accepts the inevitable.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #23 on: 03 May 2015, 14:13 »

I don't think they're stuck there forever, just for a while.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #24 on: 03 May 2015, 14:22 »

That may be true, but I still think that Gavia's fighting the inevitable, while Ardent is trying to fit in - albeit with a few speed bumps along the way.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #25 on: 04 May 2015, 00:27 »

Gavia's fighting the inevitable, while Ardent is trying to fit in

Ardent was the one who wanted to be there in the first place. Gavia was just trying to retrieve Ardent and go home.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #26 on: 04 May 2015, 15:14 »

There is that.

But it seems to me that now that several days/weeks have passed and Gavia has SITLL got no response, the idea that they may be there for a seriously long time, maybe forever, has not truly sunk in for her.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #27 on: 04 May 2015, 18:11 »

I wonder if Gavia's nanotech is self-renewable or if it has some kind of lifetime that can sunset
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #28 on: 04 May 2015, 18:20 »

Hm... Self-replicating nanotech has all sorts of potential problems. There are ways around that - Gavia may have an artificial organ that produces her nanotech in the way that bone marrow produces blood cells, for example.

But still, the energy to power the nanotech has to come from somewhere. And floating around all the time has to require a huge energy budget. Either Gavia eats a whole lot, or her nanotech is more efficient at deriving chemical energy from food than a normal human digestive tract, or she's getting her energy from somewhere else. Or she's been running on battery power and is about to crash, hard.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #29 on: 04 May 2015, 18:39 »

Or she's been running on battery power and is about to crash, hard.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #30 on: 04 May 2015, 23:41 »

At least she doesn't need a Regeneration Cubical.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #31 on: 04 May 2015, 23:58 »

But it seems to me that now that several days/weeks have passed and Gavia has SITLL got no response, the idea that they may be there for a seriously long time, maybe forever, has not truly sunk in for her.

One of the strongest forces in human psychology appears to be denial. If you don't want to admit to some bad news, then you won't, unless it is somehow rubbed in your face in a way that you can't ignore.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #32 on: 05 May 2015, 14:16 »

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Well, I guess that Gavia is finally learning that her actions have consequences (something I don't think that she really seemed to have a handle on before). Consequences that she may not be entirely happy having to live with. On the other hand, it seems that Ardent hasn't learnt anything at all... Assuming that he's capable of learning.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #33 on: 05 May 2015, 14:30 »

Well, I guess that Gavia is finally learning that her actions have consequences (something I don't think that she really seemed to have a handle on before).

I've been wondering -- was she allowed to blow shit up back wherever she came from? It seems like that's not an ability teens should have in what was presumably a densely populated environment.

On the other hand, it seems that Ardent hasn't learnt anything at all... Assuming that he's capable of learning.

We'll only know for sure when he sees Margaret Wheelwright again.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #34 on: 05 May 2015, 15:27 »

She was expecting to arrive, scare the primitives into handing over her idiot brother, and zip off home before anyone had time to miss their eyebrows. She did not contemplate consequences in the same way she might have done at home.

That said, she doesn't seem like the type who contemplates much at all.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #35 on: 05 May 2015, 15:31 »

That may be about to change

Hopefully, before she gets burned at the stake
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #36 on: 05 May 2015, 15:53 »

Really like the art in this one, panel 3 especially.  Although the guy in the middle seems to have a very long stray hair that's about to get tangled in the pitchfork...
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #37 on: 05 May 2015, 16:16 »

Given the looks on their faces, I'm wondering if the townspeople's hatred of Gavia coupled with seeing her with Alice might turn them against Alice (though they probably wouldn't be able to do anything to her).
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #38 on: 05 May 2015, 17:04 »

Is that a spear next to the pitchfork? If so what is it doing in a peaceful farming community? Do they have wildlife control problems?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #39 on: 05 May 2015, 17:15 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #40 on: 05 May 2015, 17:24 »

Is that a spear next to the pitchfork? If so what is it doing in a peaceful farming community? Do they have wildlife control problems?

It looks like the middle guy has an axe slung over his shoulder. It just looks weird because we're seeing it from the perspective of the base of the handle.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #41 on: 05 May 2015, 17:28 »

Yes, definitely an axe.

And the three of us who picked "pitchforks and torches" in the poll can now shout "Called it!" - at least half of it, anyway.  :-D
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« Reply #42 on: 05 May 2015, 18:11 »

Yes, definitely an axe.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #43 on: 05 May 2015, 22:19 »

Is that a spear next to the pitchfork? If so what is it doing in a peaceful farming community? Do they have wildlife control problems?

It looks like the middle guy has an axe slung over his shoulder. It just looks weird because we're seeing it from the perspective of the base of the handle.

I thought it was one of those hoe/mattock things - you know, like a scythe but with the blade set at 90 degrees for scoopage.  Moreover, I think Elliot's holding it - he's not smiling benignly, and this might be where he gets his broken nose!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #44 on: 05 May 2015, 23:25 »

Well, I guess that Gavia is finally learning that her actions have consequences (something I don't think that she really seemed to have a handle on before).

I've been wondering -- was she allowed to blow shit up back wherever she came from? It seems like that's not an ability teens should have in what was presumably a densely populated environment.

Widely-applied nanotech may make it easier to fix things and people that she blew up in a passing temper-tantrum. It's quite possible that the bar for 'irreparable harm' is a lot higher where she comes from.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #45 on: 06 May 2015, 01:26 »

Is that a spear next to the pitchfork? If so what is it doing in a peaceful farming community? Do they have wildlife control problems?

It looks like the middle guy has an axe slung over his shoulder. It just looks weird because we're seeing it from the perspective of the base of the handle.

I thought it was one of those hoe/mattock things - you know, like a scythe but with the blade set at 90 degrees for scoopage.

I thought it was a trowel at first. :psyduck:
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #46 on: 06 May 2015, 04:07 »

I am still trying to estimate the technology level of the inhabitants in the preserve. They have iron tools (and clothes fashion) comparable to 19th century Earth. On the other hand, the houses (glass windows in particular), and Uncle John's farm silo look more modern.

The windmill is obviously Alice's project, and not reflecting the general technology level. Electricity appears not to be currently used, but Alice may plan to improve health care by providing the hospital with electricity from the windmill. Also, she may have access to medicines and technology from the Outside.

The Night Walker appears to confine and isolate all existing nanotech in the Preserve (except Gavia, and Alice's own nanotech, of course). This may be Alice's work, and is also the reason why Alice needs to keep close watch on Gavia. Alice is obviously afraid of nanotech getting out of control.

As for nanotech in general, there must be an energy source somewhere (unless our basic physical laws are flawed). As this is technology indistinguishable from magic for us, I would not speculate too much on this.

As for Alice's role, I am still favoring the "caretaker" theory, that she is there to take care of the inhabitants, without interfering more than necessary. The preserve may be a big sociology experiment, or a "zoo" to preserve a population of baseline humans.

EDIT: I would guess Alice herself is baseline human, but heavily augmented by nanotech. This would "explain" her invulnerability and longevity. She probably got this "job" thousands of years ago. She basically has good intentions, but it is also human nature to be a raving mad dictator if you get too powerful.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #47 on: 06 May 2015, 04:21 »

Is that surprise on Gavia's face when she realises that her explosions means the townsfolk are horrified and hostile at seeing her? If so, it put paid to my theory that she didn't want to go to town out of sheer embarrassment as if so she wouldn't have been surprised at how unpopular she was. Alas, Gavia certainly strikes me as the type who has never once meaningfully experienced her actions having consequences.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #48 on: 06 May 2015, 05:44 »

More speculation: If this is basically a self-sufficient community (with a little help from Alice), there should be a lot more farmers than Uncle John, and less townspeople (what are they all doing?). Of course, we may not have seen it all yet. It is also possible that the farmers live in the town (as is common in central Europe), and work the fields during the day.

A community like this needs some infrastructure and assets: Where are the farm animals (other than the weird dogs), wagons, and plows? Is there a school (we have seen a shop sign, so I assume the people are literate)? Is there a mayor, a city council, police, or firemen (doubtful, we should have seen them after the explosions)? A courthouse? Lawyers? A church? Do they have contact with other communities? Who issues their money? What industries or professions exist (blacksmith, tailor, carpenter, glass blower)?

What we have seen, is the doc, who probably provides basic health care. I assume there is no university level education available, so is the doc from Outside? Or is he a local, having been trained by Alice?

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - May 2015
« Reply #49 on: 06 May 2015, 11:06 »

I'm a bit late to the party (as usual), but I wonder if Ardent took them the wrong way on purpose, knowing they'd be both unwelcome and unprotected if they went to town on their own. If the moon's bright enough to see the nanotech swarm monster thingy, it's certainly bright enough to at least have a basic sense of direction.
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