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Claire

Dora

Tai

Faye

Hannelore

Veronica

Emily

Momo

Marigold

Cosette

[Coffee_Kaioken]

I can't imagine a separation of Faye and Marten helping any abandonment issues she may have. I hope it doesn't get to that point.

[BenRG]

I can't imagine a separation of Faye and Marten helping any abandonment issues she may have. I hope it doesn't get to that point.

IMO, Faye is likely to be the driving force behind her moving on. She will make the decision that Marten wants her gone (whether or not he actually does want that) and that she needs to learn to stand on her own two feet. It may be associated with her getting another job and I can see May as her room-mate/conscience.

Momo would comment on the irony that Faye also functions as May's conscience, of course.

It may also be associated with Marten and Claire moving in together and Faye not wanting to be a third wheel the way she was with Dora.

[CaptainFish]

Is it just me, or is Faye getting a bit bigger?

I think a lot of it is art elasticity, because she looked like this at the start of the day, which is definitely in between today's strip and that older one someone posted.

Really glad Faye is helping to nip this problem in the bud, or at least speed up discussion of it. I'm one of the people who doesn't really appreciate the obvious trust problems Marten's phone call seemed to imply. On the other hand it could just be that Claire was really looking forward to the date for other reasons. Like she had something important to say, had cool plans, was particularly in need of a happy romantic pick-me-up, or was just really horny.

[wlewisiii]

Faye and May are an interesting combination, I'll agree. It might be an interesting contrast to see how Faye and May both grow as roommates as to see how Marten and Claire grow as lovers.That's a bit of storytelling that could be quite interesting.

[electromgneticDstroyosaur]

After all the uncertainty that yesterday's strip created. I can relax for the weekend now. Thanks Jeph.

Your optimism knows no bounds.  We've got drunk Faye, clingy Claire, and stressed-out Marten in the same room to look forward to.  I'm going to wait until this in-comic night ends before I stop worrying about Claireten and my trusty old shipping pair, Faye and the desire to live.

[Oenone]

After all the uncertainty that yesterday's strip created. I can relax for the weekend now. Thanks Jeph.

Your optimism knows no bounds.  We've got drunk Faye, clingy Claire, and stressed-out Marten in the same room to look forward to.  I'm going to wait until this in-comic night ends before I stop worrying about Claireten and my trusty old shipping pair, Faye and the desire to live.

Would that ship name be Five???

I'm really happy they play board games. It's a wholesome get to know you activity that can also lead to drama.

[chaospersonified]

It occurs to me that if May ever did agree to help Faye get sober, their ship name could really only be Fay. The removal of the 'E,' and the alcohol, being May's main contribution.

I kind of want that to happen even more now.

I wanted it already, but the name thing cinches it down

[retrosteve]

My milage is exactly one mile to the mile. It never changes.

You have a vehicle that consumes distance itself in order to travel? Isn't that kind of dangerous?

Just imagine car engines eating up all those flyover states, a bit at a time, as you drive from New York to L.A. America would solve its gasoline problem!

[Is it cold in here?]

The telegraph, the jet airplane, the Internet, all were heralded as abolishing distance. ReinderFlotilla's car simply does it directly.

[cesium133]

My milage is exactly one mile to the mile. It never changes.

You have a vehicle that consumes distance itself in order to travel? Isn't that kind of dangerous?

Just imagine car engines eating up all those flyover states, a bit at a time, as you drive from New York to L.A. America would solve its gasoline problem!

There goes the neighborhood! And the next neighborhood over...

[Omega Entity]

Been pondering Marten's ending line all night (I work 3rd shift as a Hotel desk clerk).  He's not very amused here - that's serious snark verging on very serious anger. I think Jeph is pointing us at Marten getting to the "enough" point. I think if push really comes to shove, Claire wins. Everyone comments about how he's her first real relationship but I think that in a very important way she is _his_ as well. This is the first time we've seen him take someone else more seriously than anything else in his life. That was the real reason mom said "I saw it coming". She may or may not see the details but she did see Marten grow up three or four levels.

So, he's felt he needed to break a date because of Faye's issues - as a friend you do that but you still feel the anger - and then she pulls her usual "swiss knife of violence" crap on top of it? Clairiten isn't that fragile; the insinuation that she had to help is... unfortunate.

Yeah, I can see him asking her to move out as the 3000 shoe drop.

I'm not sure where you're getting anger from, as Marten's expression in no way, shape, or form reflects that. If Jeph wanted us to think Marten was angry, his facial expression would indicate that, and Jeph is very good at expressions, let alone to convey the emotion he wants the character to convey.

I'm sensing some serious Faye-hate from your post.

[hedgie]

He looks more shocked/surprised than anything else.

[Method of Madness]

their ship name could really only be Fay

I do not approve of shipping here, but...dude. "Maye", not "Fay". (Also why are people saying "Clairiten"? That's a god damn allergy medicine, if you must combine their name...why not Martaire?)

[cesium133]

their ship name could really only be Fay

I do not approve of shipping here, but...dude. "Maye", not "Fay". (Also why are people saying "Clairiten"? That's a god damn allergy medicine, if you must combine their name...why not Martaire?)

But... but... the allergy medicine pun is the only reason I've been calling them Claireten.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

My milage is exactly one mile to the mile. It never changes.

You have a vehicle that consumes distance itself in order to travel? Isn't that kind of dangerous?

No one said anything about consumption. In that senses, I get exactly one gallon per gallon,  which is one liter per liter, for you metric folks. Or a litre per litre for the people who spell funny.

[electromgneticDstroyosaur]

(Also why are people saying "Clairiten"? That's a god damn allergy medicine, if you must combine their name...why not Martaire?)

The shared consonant does a world of good in the middle of Claireten.  Also, Martaire sounds like you're shipping a drink with a philosopher.  If you thought they were unbearable sober...

[Rghfrgl]

Been pondering Marten's ending line all night (I work 3rd shift as a Hotel desk clerk).  He's not very amused here - that's serious snark verging on very serious anger.

Doesn't line up with the rest of the strip, which if Faye doing right by Marten. She's not letting her screw ups drag him down and she's diffusing potential jealousy that ruined his relationship with Dora before it can take root.

[pwhodges]

BTW, I don't think anyone commented on the fact that Claire answered the call from Marten's phone.  If she'd been as pissed off with him as some people conjectured, she would have let it ring.

[cesium133]

(Also why are people saying "Clairiten"? That's a god damn allergy medicine, if you must combine their name...why not Martaire?)

The shared consonant does a world of good in the middle of Claireten.  Also, Martaire sounds like you're shipping a drink with a philosopher.  If you thought they were unbearable sober...

*singing*
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable...

[Pilchard123]

Heidegger (Heidegger) was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table...

[Gladstone]

It occurs to me that if May ever did agree to help Faye get sober, their ship name could really only be Fay. The removal of the 'E,' and the alcohol, being May's main contribution.

Fmay.

[Alphawolf55]

"You're welcome" wow Faye way to be a complete bitch.

[Kugai]

It occurs to me that if May ever did agree to help Faye get sober, their ship name could really only be Fay. The removal of the 'E,' and the alcohol, being May's main contribution.

Fmay.

You could go Pernese

F'may?

[electromgneticDstroyosaur]

*singing*
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable...

"Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table..."

Ah, there's nothing like a Monty Python reference for the two or three of you out there in the audience.

[CaptainFish]

BTW, I don't think anyone commented on the fact that Claire answered the call from Marten's phone.  If she'd been as pissed off with him as some people conjectured, she would have let it ring.

Maybe she thought her assertiveness made him change his mind and he called to apologize.

[tywren]

You could go Pernese

F'may?

Only if she where a dragon rider, in which case May would be jealous as all hell, because Faye gets to fly around on a gold dragon, but she doesn't get to be a YF-29 Varitech Fighter. 

[Thrillho]

"You're welcome" wow Faye way to be a complete bitch.

Don't call anyone a bitch in a post on this forum, fictional character or otherwise.

[themacnut]

BTW, I don't think anyone commented on the fact that Claire answered the call from Marten's phone.  If she'd been as pissed off with him as some people conjectured, she would have let it ring.

Maybe she thought her assertiveness made him change his mind and he called to apologize.

Maybe she even thought/hoped she "made" him go so far as to uncancel their date and leave Faye to her own devices.

[Mr_Rose]

My milage is exactly one mile to the mile. It never changes.

You have a vehicle that consumes distance itself in order to travel? Isn't that kind of dangerous?

No one said anything about consumption. In that senses, I get exactly one gallon per gallon,  which is one liter per liter, for you metric folks. Or a litre per litre for the people who spell funny.

Yes they did. "YMMV" is an acronym including contraction of "your mileage may vary" as I'm sure you are aware but you seem to have missed that the term "mileage", means "volume of fuel consumed per unit distance travelled" and is generally expressed in miles per gallon.
I have personally never seen it used to mean anything else, even when the units are litres and kilometres, so you came across as trying to make some sort of snarky comment about people being inconstant, which is ridiculous given the origin of the YMMV term; originally a legal disclaimer found in automotive advertising media that maid claims about the products typical fuel efficiency, it has come to mean an acknowledgment that everyone's personal circumstances are different and, therefore, trying to guarantee a claim is valid in all cases would be ridiculous so it would be best if everyone acknowledged that.
Hence the confusion.

[electromgneticDstroyosaur]

"You're welcome" wow Faye way to be a complete bitch.

In fairness to Faye, she's dealing with:
- being drunk
- not being allowed to get more drunk
- probably still repressing strong emotions for Marten
- getting off on the wrong foot with Claire
- everything that's happened in the last (in-comic) week: leaving Angus, getting fired, going to the hospital

And despite all that, she's still doing her utmost to not get in the way of Marten's good time.  Now, I'm not saying you're wrong, but...

[Method of Madness]

I wonder if Marten and Faye will ever be single at the same time again. Not overtly wondering what'll happen if/when that happens.

[jwhouk]

I wonder if Marten and Faye will ever be single at the same time again. Not overtly wondering what'll happen if/when that happens.

(shakes Magic 8-ball)

"Signs Point To No."

[Method of Madness]

I mean, ideally that's the case because it means Marten and Claire last.

[tywren]

"You're welcome" wow Faye way to be a complete bitch.

Don't call anyone a bitch in a post on this forum, fictional character or otherwise.

Alphawolf55 gets a like from me just for Thrillho's bad attitude, and mod bullying.

[Method of Madness]

It's not mod bullying, bitch and cunt are gendered insults, and those are not ok here.

[cesium133]

I mean, ideally that's the case because it means Marten and Claire last.

Or that Faye finds someone new (that would probably be the true warning sign that Marten/Claire is about to go wrong).

[Method of Madness]

Hey, they can be happy at the same time. It's just not likely.

[Thrillho]

"You're welcome" wow Faye way to be a complete bitch.

Don't call anyone a bitch in a post on this forum, fictional character or otherwise.

Alphawolf55 gets a like from me just for Thrillho's bad attitude, and mod bullying.

The forum's rules are the rules for a reason, there is a thread elsewhere if you have an issue with the way we moderate the forum.

[pwhodges]

Alphawolf55 gets a like from me just for Thrillho's bad attitude, and mod bullying.

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[DSL]

You could go Pernese

F'may?

Only if she where a dragon rider, in which case May would be jealous as all hell, because Faye gets to fly around on a gold dragon, but she doesn't get to be a YF-29 Varitech Fighter.

Then I'd go with Mayfly.

[Skewbrow]

Yes they did. "YMMV" is an acronym including contraction of "your mileage may vary" as I'm sure you are aware but you seem to have missed that the term "mileage", means "volume of fuel consumed per unit distance travelled" and is generally expressed in miles per gallon.

I may be wrong but I've seen YMMV used in contexts (and used it myself), where "mileage" means roughly "accumulated experience in the topic under discussion" (be it math, best strategy in some game, or life experience in general). IOW "distance travelled along a more abstract journey". I would use "gas mileage" to make sure that I'm referring to fuel consumption in particular.

But I'm a furriner, and this would not be the first time I have clung to a wrong belief about the meaning of a phrase. While friends are too polite to point out my mistake :-/

[pwhodges]

Not wrong.  The phrase has a specific literal use and a common idiomatic usage alongside it.

[ZoeB]

Alphawolf55 gets a like from me just for Thrillho's bad attitude, and mod bullying.

Sexist insults aren't allowed. That's not exactly a huge impost, I think. I, and I think anyone, can get by without violating this minor restriction, yet express themselves with suitable vigour.

If I may suggest an alternative - here's one containing every letter in the alphabet.

'Sir, you are an apogenous, bovaristic, coprolalial, dasypygal, excerebrose, facinorous, gnathonic, hircine, ithyphallic, jumentous, kyphotic, labrose, mephitic, napiform, oligophrenial, papuliferous, quisquilian, rebarbative, saponaceous, thersitical, unguinous, ventripotent, wlatsome, xylocephalous, yirning zoophyte'.

Not that you deserve that. Nor even to be circumscribed, let alone castigated.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

Yes they did. "YMMV" is an acronym including contraction of "your mileage may vary" as I'm sure you are aware but you seem to have missed that the term "mileage", means "volume of fuel consumed per unit distance travelled" and is generally expressed in miles per gallon.
I have personally never seen it used to mean anything else, even when the units are litres and kilometres, so you came across as trying to make some sort of snarky comment about people being inconstant, which is ridiculous given the origin of the YMMV term; originally a legal disclaimer found in automotive advertising media that maid claims about the products typical fuel efficiency, it has come to mean an acknowledgment that everyone's personal circumstances are different and, therefore, trying to guarantee a claim is valid in all cases would be ridiculous so it would be best if everyone acknowledged that.
Hence the confusion.

You know your joke bombed when someone writes a dissertation on the punchline.

[Omega Entity]

Maybe he'd never heard the phrase outside of a car commercial?

[ReindeerFlotilla]

Playing with different meanings. It's like the safety instruction, "Keep Out Of Reach Of Children." Everyone knows there's an implied "this product" in that. But I like to think of it as a general rule for living. You're just better off if the little buggers can't get at you.

In this case, I was reading "mileage" the same way your mechanic does when they ask for the odometer reading or the way oil is  marketed for older cars.

I also get about 1.608 kilometers to the mile, but that probably has varied over time.

[Is it cold in here?]

It's all having fun.

My favorite variation on "Keep out of reach of children" is "To avoid danger of suffocation, keep away from babies and small children". Pretending to misunderstand that one was a great treat.

[jwhouk]

And pets. Don't forget the pets.

[electromgneticDstroyosaur]

BTW, I don't think anyone commented on the fact that Claire answered the call from Marten's phone.  If she'd been as pissed off with him as some people conjectured, she would have let it ring.

I don't think Claire did pick up, though.  Faye's wording feels an awful lot like a voicemail to me.

[ZoeB]

Maybe he'd never heard the phrase outside of a car commercial?

Those in Australia and the UK have never heard it, period. We've only seen it in the metaphorical context. It has never appeared in adverts here.

When I first drove a car in the US, I saw "objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are" - and was enlightened. Instantly a Meatloaf song made sense. Before then, just one of many cultural mysteries. "Batteries not included" likewise.

"I can't believe it's not butter" I get. "Where's the beef"... not so much.

I'm sure Americans are equally bemused when Australians talk about a "Clayton's" this or that. Meaning Ersatz, replacement. As in "Our maths teacher's off sick, so we have a Clayton's (ie substitute) teacher"

See also http://ozwords.org/?p=3240