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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #50 on: 27 Jul 2015, 08:53 »

Ah, the man-bun.  International symbol of douchebaggery, sub-species S.N.A.G.*


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I don't know, man buns on huge dudes in heavy metal t shirts, pierced and tattooed to heck, walking a tiny adorable dog is one of my favourite things. The man bun is negotiable, but it adds a certain something. Of course, I've never seen a man bun except on dudes who look like club bouncers, so my experience is limited.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #51 on: 27 Jul 2015, 08:57 »

It's been so long, I can't even remember why Dora cut ties with Sven.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #52 on: 27 Jul 2015, 09:02 »

It's been so long, I can't even remember why Dora cut ties with Sven.

Allegedly it was because Sven approached Faye just before her break-up with Angus and asked her to take him back.

However, that was just the excuse. Dora has always been strongly jealous of Sven - his easy charisma, his effortless success and his strong relationship with their parents. Sven does have many bad qualities (he's narcissistic and has a huge entitlement complex, like a lot of people who were spoilt by their parents). Nonetheless, when Dora talks about him being 'a completely toxic personality', in many ways it is way he exists in her psyche as the avatar of everything she feels is unfair in her life that is the toxic thing. It distorts their every interaction and makes him appear a monster in her eyes.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #53 on: 27 Jul 2015, 11:42 »

Sven thinks it was his own fault that Dora cut him out of her life? Even if it had been his fault, I would not expect Sven to see it. For him to think it was when it really was a massive overreaction on Dora's part is surprising.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #54 on: 27 Jul 2015, 11:43 »

Oh God no not Sven. And he has a twatty samurai bob!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #55 on: 27 Jul 2015, 12:07 »

I prefer "samurai bob" to "man bun".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #56 on: 27 Jul 2015, 12:13 »

I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the conversation between Dora and Sven.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #57 on: 27 Jul 2015, 12:18 »

Dora has always been strongly jealous of Sven - his easy charisma, his effortless success and his strong relationship with their parents. Sven does have many bad qualities (he's narcissistic and has a huge entitlement complex, like a lot of people who were spoilt by their parents). Nonetheless, when Dora talks about him being 'a completely toxic personality', in many ways it is way he exists in her psyche as the avatar of everything she feels is unfair in her life that is the toxic thing. It distorts their every interaction and makes him appear a monster in her eyes.

Damn straight, BenRG! I think you hit the nail on the head with this one.
Now, I'm going to say this and then duck behind the crate or oranges because I know it's a CRAZY unpopular opinion.

I like Sven. And I can see him ending up with Faye, because I think they make each other better. Sven got Faye to open up and try new things, and Faye made Sven realize that "loving them and leaving them" doesn't work.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #58 on: 27 Jul 2015, 12:28 »

I'm with FD here, but also I believe that both have a long path to walk down before we can all (including Jephzibah) accept them as a couple.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #59 on: 27 Jul 2015, 12:34 »

I don't see them as a good match right now because of their personal issues. I think they are working on them though, and who knows what the future may bring. Both right now I think need some time away from the dating to work on themselves anyway. Faye to work on her drinking and finally come to grips with the suicide of her father. Sven to work on seeing women as something other than 'relative' and 'potential bed partner'. His friendship with Hanners is a huge step in the right direction, but as we saw today.. two steps forward and one back...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #60 on: 27 Jul 2015, 15:32 »

So, Sven's back in the mix

Could this lead to a run-in with Faye?

I don't think Jeph has brought him into the mix again after everything that's happened just for the hell of it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #61 on: 27 Jul 2015, 16:24 »

Before his attitude around his ill-advised and creepy love confession, I would have supported a return to the Sven/Faye relationship. Now, though, I'm very much against it, because it feels like it would send the wrong message. If I were to support a return to that relationship again, Sven would have to go through some pretty intense soul-searching and life-changing... and have it happen much further down the line.

Also I still feel like Angus' departure from the comic was rather abrupt. He just... leaves. No further attempts to make things work, no talk with Marten or the rest of the gang, we don't even see him saying goodbye to Marigold. I kinda want to see him one last time for some proper closure to that character, y'know?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #62 on: 27 Jul 2015, 16:32 »

I'd say that's a better reflection of real life. Often there are no big soap opera endings. Things just stop happening one day.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #63 on: 27 Jul 2015, 17:18 »

Faye will scorn that man bun harder than she did Angus crying at anime.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #64 on: 27 Jul 2015, 17:36 »

That is not Sven.  That is his evil wannabe twin. Run, Hannelore!!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #65 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:01 »

Lol, gotta say, the slight jar of art in this comic made me think I had somehow ended up on an older page, lol. Took me a moment and page refresh before I noticed what they were saying. lol
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #66 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:03 »

So it's Nevs, not Sven
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #67 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:32 »

Faye will scorn that man bun harder than she did Angus crying at anime.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445

He's gonna get scorned out of New Hampshire with that one then.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #68 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:47 »

You mean into New Hampshire? They're in Massachusetts, you know.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #69 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:48 »

She'll scorn him into New Hampshire, then into Maine.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #70 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:52 »

Got states mixed. And actually I probably wanted to write the town's name (which was Northhampton right?) but then cs133 came with excellence and I just had to leave it as-is.

Let's just say it's kinda late and I'm not good with geography.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #71 on: 27 Jul 2015, 18:53 »

You put an extra h in there. Just Northampton.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #72 on: 27 Jul 2015, 19:03 »

A. No, Dora, you burned that bridge.
B. Good for Hanners, although Arby's is a little too insulting.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #73 on: 27 Jul 2015, 19:19 »

Well, Hanners might want to enjoy her evildoing. If she turned CoD into something less insulting there's a possibility for her to not be able to enjoy delicious Arby's curly fries.

And we don't want that.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #74 on: 27 Jul 2015, 19:32 »

I'm with Hanners on this one.  I love me some Arby's curly fries.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #75 on: 27 Jul 2015, 19:55 »

I'm with Hanners on this one.  I love me some Arby's curly fries.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #76 on: 27 Jul 2015, 20:14 »

As much as I love Hannelore, this one really isn't any of her business, regardless of whether she's right or not. It's one thing to voice an opinion as a friend, it's an entirely different matter to get hostile about it and try to force it.

Well, as hostile as Hanners could/would get anyway, but my point stands. :P
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #77 on: 27 Jul 2015, 20:21 »

Last time Sven made amends to Dora, it was by giving her back her gothic witch princess.  This time, he's gonna have to go full goth.

Hey, Pioneer Valley goth country isn't that much more outré than Pioneer Valley country.  Gotta be a niche.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #78 on: 27 Jul 2015, 20:44 »

Jeph apparently meant to link this, but put .jpg instead of .png: http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/arbo.png
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #79 on: 27 Jul 2015, 20:54 »

It's interesting that Hannelore eats fast food.  Given some of the stories about fast food food, whether they're true or not, you'd think she'd be paranoid about eating those products.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #80 on: 27 Jul 2015, 20:55 »

She probably carries a little perfume bottle of Absolut.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #81 on: 27 Jul 2015, 21:23 »

It's interesting that Hannelore eats fast food.  Given some of the stories about fast food food, whether they're true or not, you'd think she'd be paranoid about eating those products.
This thought came to mind for me, as well.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #82 on: 27 Jul 2015, 21:25 »

I would like to thank some of the people, including BenRG, FD, and osaka (and one or two others), for stating what needed to be said about Sven and Dora.

p.s. Sven's comment to Hannelore is a lot less creepy when you remember that Dora is the woman he used to talk to the most.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #83 on: 27 Jul 2015, 21:31 »

It's interesting that Hannelore eats fast food.  Given some of the stories about fast food food, whether they're true or not, you'd think she'd be paranoid about eating those products.
This thought came to mind for me, as well.
Especially since she's previously been reluctant to try Taco Bell. Not sure why she'd consider Arby's to be less terrifying.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #84 on: 27 Jul 2015, 22:05 »

As much as I love Hannelore, this one really isn't any of her business, regardless of whether she's right or not. It's one thing to voice an opinion as a friend, it's an entirely different matter to get hostile about it and try to force it.

Well, as hostile as Hanners could/would get anyway, but my point stands. :P

Yeah, I didn't agree with Dora's choice, but I don't like Hanner's way of addressing it either. It's like sven has a superpower that makes everyone he interacts with behave in extreme ways. Glad to see some Dora stuff though.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #85 on: 27 Jul 2015, 22:09 »

Hmm. Hannelore is using the resources at her disposal to attempt to repair a dysfunctional relationship. She even has a plan B in place "she might be bluffing". Oh god. Hannelore is the sane one. Perhaps that's Dora's realization that she's being an overreacting sexist slur removed by moderator
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #86 on: 27 Jul 2015, 22:11 »

If Hannelore wanted to be insulting, she would have said Starbucks.

Though curly fries are abput the only thing left that I like about Arby's.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #87 on: 27 Jul 2015, 22:17 »

It's interesting that Hannelore eats fast food.  Given some of the stories about fast food food, whether they're true or not, you'd think she'd be paranoid about eating those products.
This thought came to mind for me, as well.
Especially since she's previously been reluctant to try Taco Bell. Not sure why she'd consider Arby's to be less terrifying.

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In other news... Okay, in the same news, Sven makes creepy comment and the deathsquads march. Hanners makes creepy comment and it's okay? Because Beatrice would probably utterly ruin the life of anyone if Hannelore asked her to.

It strikes me as a pretty symmetrical bit of boundary crossing, being examples of things both of them probably would have done in the past, without considering all of the consequences. Both are now at a point where they do think about the follow on from what they do but haven't quite fit that into the rules of polite conversation.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #88 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:04 »

Now I'm wondering what did happen to that couple Beatrice called in HHS on.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #89 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:27 »

Never forget whose daughter Hannelore is! Blood will always tell in the end! Besides, Dora is so good at denial and running away from her problems that some form of coercion is probably the only way to get her out of her comfortable defensive box.

I'm sure that Dora would be more impressed if she thought Hanners' threat was even slightly plausible!

I wonder if Hanners may actually go through with it? Coffee of Doom - The only coffee shop in the world where the landlord works as a barrista! All so she has some kind of leverage to force the boss to confront her personal demons.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #90 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:30 »

Sven burned that bridge? What did I miss? And Hannelore agrees with her?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #91 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:46 »

Sven burned that bridge? What did I miss? And Hannelore agrees with her?

No, Hannelore just knows that it is pointless trying to deprogram Dora's brain from a self-deceit that is close to a foundation stone for what passes for her stable psyche. Better to focus on moving her forward than get sidetracked into an argument that Dora can not allow her to win. There is time enough in the future to disabuse Dora of her delusions about Sven.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #92 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:48 »

Sven burned that bridge? What did I miss? And Hannelore agrees with her?

Sven agrees with her. So, I'm going to go ahead and say that's what happened and let it ride. History is written by the victors, and for her sins, Dora won.

I'm not even saying that Dora was wrong by calling them sins, though Dora is probably looking at it that way. Morality is relative, so who is right is only relevant to the points of view involved. Sven is tacitly acknowledging Dora's point of view as valid and defining for the situation. That'll be the end of it.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #93 on: 27 Jul 2015, 23:56 »

Sven burned that bridge? What did I miss? And Hannelore agrees with her?

In Dora's eyes, yes, but I don't think Hanners agrees. She just doesn't disagree openly, probably because she doesn't want to fight with Dora herself. (OH BenRG hijacked me and said it so much better. AUGH.) And I think it's so Hanners that she doesn't threaten Dora, she threatens to make threats.

I don't know if I want it to work. On the one hand, I couldn't imagine fighting with my brother so bad that I would cut ties. Sven's always been there for Dora, he followed her (stupid) rules (no flirting with employees, no matter how hard they come on to him... even though that's really none of her business), he took her in after her break-up with Marten and he at least tries to give good brotherly advice. (And he helped her MOVE. At least TWICE.)

On the other - Dora has to fix her problems alone, especially her massive pride and impulsive explosions. Tai might help, since she's not such a pushover and lets Dora feel the consequences of her actions instead of apologising right away. Hanner's heart is in the right place, but if Dora can't see her own faults and mistakes, she can't be accepting of others.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #94 on: 28 Jul 2015, 00:38 »

Its really quite interesting - Hanners actually uses her wealth to do evil. I dont remember her ever doing that before.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #95 on: 28 Jul 2015, 00:58 »

She's done it before. She got her mum to close down a restaurant that accidentally gave Marten food poisoning.

In general, though, it's more like she recognises that using her parent's influence for evil is always there as an option, a last resort. That's if murdering her friends doesn't work out.
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« Reply #96 on: 28 Jul 2015, 01:14 »

am i the only one sick to freaking death of doras bratty attitude. its like wah  my brother has it easy because of natural talent.  wah my friends want to bone him wah.  honestly i think literally everybody else in the comic (including faye (even with her recent troubles)) has outgrown or is shortly going to out grow her
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« Reply #97 on: 28 Jul 2015, 02:01 »

FWIW, I'm expecting Dora to do something stupid tomorrow. She'll either send Hanners home for the day for insubordination or the two will have an argument in which Dora will come across as paranoid and terrified of the rest of the world. She might even close the shop early and retreat home to sulk.

I've been expecting Dora to snap for some time (since she fired Faye, actually). The only question as yet unanswered is whether she'll attack or run.

The best thing to happen to her would be to run into Faye coming home from the URFL* and the two to finally have that conversation in which they apologise to each other and Faye tells Dora just how alike they are in so very many ways.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #98 on: 28 Jul 2015, 03:11 »

am i the only one sick to freaking death of doras bratty attitude. its like wah  my brother has it easy because of natural talent.  wah my friends want to bone him wah.  honestly i think literally everybody else in the comic (including faye (even with her recent troubles)) has outgrown or is shortly going to out grow her

Not completely, but then Sven is my least favourite character in the comic.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3011-3015 (27 - 31 July 2015)
« Reply #99 on: 28 Jul 2015, 03:25 »

The best thing to happen to her would be to run into Faye coming home from the URFL* and the two to finally have that conversation in which they apologise to each other and Faye tells Dora just how alike they are in so very many ways.
For what does Dora have to apologise to Faye? For not enabling her alcoholism? For not letting her endanger Dora's business*? For being upset with Faye lying to her to cover up her drunkenness? For behaving like Faye's boss?

am i the only one sick to freaking death of doras bratty attitude. its like wah  my brother has it easy because of natural talent.  wah my friends want to bone him wah.
And of course "Grrr! He hits on my friend and employee, on my business premises*, during the working day, in an extremely creepy, entitled, and inappropriate manner." That, after all, is what Dora means when she says that Sven burned the bridges with her. To describe her view as a "delusion", an observer presumably believes that it did not happen, or that his behaviour was acceptable, or that he has some sort of right to be judged indulgently by his sister regardless of how he behaves. And in-universe, apparently even Sven does not believe that.

On the other - Dora has to fix her problems alone, especially her massive pride and impulsive explosions.
Pride is the name we give to that, in other people, which we call self-respect in ourselves. Naturally it is regarded as a sin.

*It has always been a thread in QC that Dora's business is very important to her. I wonder whether, if Jim fired an employee for drunkenness, he would have attracted the same hate that Dora seems to. Because, you know, business is for men; a woman who acts like a boss is a bitch.
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