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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)  (Read 51292 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #150 on: 16 Mar 2016, 08:02 »

The only thing that smells better than WD-40 is Hoppes No. 9.
and now I need a range day so I have an excuse to use some.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #151 on: 16 Mar 2016, 08:57 »

Global Moderator Comment As pwhodges said, May would get banned here if she acted like she does in the strip. The issue is what's good for the forum.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #152 on: 16 Mar 2016, 09:53 »

Okay, I need to point this out, just because I hate it when people ruin machinery.

More machinery has been ruined by people mistaking WD-40 for a lubricant than I care to think about.  And if May is making this mistake, it's no damn wonder her shoulder joint wore out.  The personal lube, while not a terribly good machine oil because it evaporates too fast, is a much better choice mechanically speaking than WD-40 because it isn't actively harmful. 

WD-40 IS NOT A LUBRICANT.  It is a hygroscopic antioxidant.  It penetrates rusted joints, helps loosen rust, and drives water off of surfaces where it's applied.  On regular metal parts that's not actively harmful, and it can help free seized joints if they are seized due to rust.  But you need to clean those parts thoroughly once you've got them free, and then follow it up with an actual lubricant.

But joints and gears in moving parts that are supposed to be long-lasting and low-maintenance are made with oil-impregnated bearing surfaces.  On a microscopic level, oil-impregnated gears look kind of like swiss cheese only with the holes further apart.  When they start getting a little warm, the oil inside them expands and goes between the bearing surfaces where it's needed, through microscopic pores in the surface of the metal. When they cool off the oil is drawn back inside.  So they run for years and years with only very occasional oiling to replace the tiny amounts lost. 

WD-40 gets into the microscopic pores and stops the self-lubricating action from working, and it's damned near impossible to get out.  People who "lubricate" sewing machine gears for example with WD-40 doom their machines to an early death.  People who repair sewing machines usually just replace all the gears if they learn that WD-40 has been used - if the machine has run for more than a few hours since it was used they'll be worn out, and if it hasn't, you'll still have to remove all the gears and put them in an oil bath with an ultrasonic agitator overnight to get them clean again and it's less trouble and faster to just replace them.

If you want to lubricate delicate machinery, or replenish self-lubricating gears, use kerosene or a very light machine oil.  Marvel Mystery Oil is a great product.   
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #153 on: 16 Mar 2016, 09:59 »

WD-40 is also apparently good for keeping hornets from building nests.  Spray it under your eves and anywhere else you don't want them building.  Not sure how effective it is, but if it claims to keep hornets away, it's definitely worth trying.

And not sure if fan of May's new hairstyle.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #154 on: 16 Mar 2016, 10:29 »

And not sure if fan of May's new hairstyle.

I think it's less a "style" than a maelstrom resulting from lack of maintenance. She treated the old hair the same way, and it ended up in spikes.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #155 on: 16 Mar 2016, 11:42 »

My favourite mechanical lubricant is actually a light machine oil with molybdenum disulfide (MoS₂) and graphite. Even when the oil is gone, it works as a great dry lubricant.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #156 on: 16 Mar 2016, 13:25 »

Right.  That's probably a better choice if you don't have oil-impregnated gears.  Oil-impregnated gears actually keep the lubricant from evaporating (for about 99 times as long), so running dry isn't an issue. 

Still, I would imagine that for the synthetic set not using non-lubricants to lubricate things would be right up there on the list with the way us biologicals are taught that we should avoid, say, relying on non-food objects as food.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #157 on: 16 Mar 2016, 15:22 »

I'm late regarding Corpse Witch, but yes; she's not just trying to keep her place under wraps or keep the profit. She's threatening Faye. She's not stupid, and I bet she is getting uneasy about Bubbles going into the public sphere with Faye, but she is overestimating herself, and threatening employees, even in illegal matters, is not good for any long term business. I, for one, would not be disappointed if Bubbles whacks Corpse Witch out and walks out; though that might be to 'comic logic' to fly as the comic seems to be getting more and more serious - stuff like Vespavenger might be impossible to replicate now. Especially with Bubbles' background and the whole, you know, illegality of the whole setup. And leaving that can be as simple as 'I'm out' - again, real world, it's possible to just leave, but if the setup is extensive or petty enough, it'll keep dragging you down.

Still, I want Bubbles to clonk her.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #158 on: 16 Mar 2016, 15:40 »

It never occurred to me to use WD-40 on sewing-machine gears. I think there is a reason you can buy actual sewing-machine oil from your Singer shop or whatever. What makes me sad is people who use WD-40 on bicycle chains. You can use it to clean chains, although it is a very expensive way to do it, and there are better alternatives, but it is no good at all for protecting the chain and sprockets from wear.

What does annoy me is the way many lubricants are sold to consumers, normally in tiny quantities at grotesque mark-ups. In the case of sewing-machine oil it doesn't bother me, because so little is needed, but bicycle chains, for example, need regular lubrication, especially if you commute in all weathers. Park Tools, a company I generally respect, sells its chain lube in 118ml bottles, and its RRP is A$18!

You'd think that for AIs, maintenance information would be part of their basic "education". But look at the way humans eat badly, don't exercise, smoke, drink too much etc. and it's hard to point the bone at May.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #159 on: 16 Mar 2016, 15:45 »

Let's not forget that May apparently wasn't originally in a chassis, so the need for physical maintenance is a new thing to her. And she loathes this particular chassis so she isn't all that inclined to take care of it. If the parole board even bothered giving May a user manual for this chassis when they assigned it to her, it wouldn't surprise me if she deleted it without reading it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #160 on: 16 Mar 2016, 15:50 »

If you want to lubricate delicate machinery, or replenish self-lubricating gears, use kerosene or a very light machine oil.  Marvel Mystery Oil is a great product.

Automatic Transmission Fluid is also a very good and underrated light lubricant, great for car hood and door hinges, and if you mix it with acetone, you end up with the best rust busting penetrating oil I've ever used.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #161 on: 16 Mar 2016, 17:33 »

Let's not forget that May apparently wasn't originally in a chassis, so the need for physical maintenance is a new thing to her. And she loathes this particular chassis so she isn't all that inclined to take care of it. If the parole board even bothered giving May a user manual for this chassis when they assigned it to her, it wouldn't surprise me if she deleted it without reading it.

Bear in mind as well that the chassis is more than likely owned by the parole board, which is probably lacking a bit in funds so its probably the cheapest chassis on the market. Who knows how many AIs used it as a shell before May, is it any wonder the thing is falling apart now.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #162 on: 16 Mar 2016, 18:10 »

Let's not forget that May apparently wasn't originally in a chassis, so the need for physical maintenance is a new thing to her. And she loathes this particular chassis so she isn't all that inclined to take care of it. If the parole board even bothered giving May a user manual for this chassis when they assigned it to her, it wouldn't surprise me if she deleted it without reading it.

Bear in mind as well that the chassis is more than likely owned by the parole board, which is probably lacking a bit in funds so its probably the cheapest chassis on the market. Who knows how many AIs used it as a shell before May, is it any wonder the thing is falling apart now.

It'd be interesting for May to run into a former inhabitant of her current chassis. A future plot point, perhaps?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #163 on: 16 Mar 2016, 19:06 »

Vaseline. Crisco. Butter. Olive oil. All better choices than WD-40. And what about the LEFT shoulder joint? A little preventive maintenance, maybe?

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #164 on: 16 Mar 2016, 19:53 »

Let's not forget that May apparently wasn't originally in a chassis, so the need for physical maintenance is a new thing to her. And she loathes this particular chassis so she isn't all that inclined to take care of it. If the parole board even bothered giving May a user manual for this chassis when they assigned it to her, it wouldn't surprise me if she deleted it without reading it.

Bear in mind as well that the chassis is more than likely owned by the parole board, which is probably lacking a bit in funds so its probably the cheapest chassis on the market. Who knows how many AIs used it as a shell before May, is it any wonder the thing is falling apart now.

Actually, apparently prisoners in federal prison can be issued release clothing in the event that they don't have enough money in their commissary fund to purchase clothing, and don't have someone to bring them clothing from the outside. The clothing supplied is generally irregulars, seconds, or mistakes - which falls right in line with how May's chassis has one foot larger than the other and is overallof poor quality.

So, it is entirely possible that that chassis was given to her on release, and not the property of the DoJ. Her parole officer's statement about it being out of warranty kind of hints at that, and felt to me like it was more a case of 'sorry, it's your problem now and you'll have to either spring for repairs or get a new one', not that she's stuck in it regardless of condition. She can still be paranoid about it being bugged, even if it's now her property, but otherwise we've been given no solid evidence that she's only borrowing the chassis.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #165 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:00 »

Yay!  Bubbles got to see a pegasus!

Yay!  Faye and Dora are friends again!

Yay!  Hanners is happy!

Boo, we didn't get an answer to the question.  Although I would imagine, like many real-world offenses, whether and how offensive it is depends a lot on the AI... I can see Momo being offended by it while Pintsize considers it funny.  And Bubbles just has no shits to give about it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #166 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:00 »

When you call someone a dildo is that like calling them a tool? Cept, like, a sex tool? The real questions.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #167 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:01 »

Heheh, tainted by dildos, I am tired and amused by multiple aspects of this particular comic
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #168 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:02 »

When you call someone a dildo is that like calling them a tool? Cept, like, a sex tool? The real questions.

It's like calling them a dick, only it's suggesting they aren't real enough for such classification
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #169 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:03 »

In my head, the way Dora pronounces "manufactured" sounds so hateful!

Warning - while you were typing 4 dildos put in their two cents.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #170 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:04 »

Warning - while you were typing 4 dildos put in their two cents.

And I was two of them. This is a declaration of my sexual prowess, that I am two out of four dildos inserting change into something
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #171 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:06 »

Is a dildo that got all messed up a dildon't? Fuck, I didn't want to spend all night thinking about phallic objects.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #172 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:06 »

Some say that if you collect all 7 of the magical dildos, you can unlock the enchanted Sybian.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #173 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:12 »

Is a dildo that got all messed up a dildon't? Fuck, I didn't want to spend all night thinking about phallic objects.

Nah, this is a dildon't

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #174 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:13 »

Bubbles is not sex positive.

The Pugnacious Peach may not be fully aware of the downside of talking about people behind their backs. Especially when they are people who may well have organized crime connections.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #175 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:19 »

Bubbles is being offensive to dildos in the last panel.  :-P
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #176 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:19 »

 

 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #177 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:23 »

Pint-Size is my go to authority on everything.

My computer has seemed... sad? Recently and keeps trying to delete a bunch of this porn, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #178 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:57 »

Nah, this is a dildon't

LOL OMG

That was so horrible, I had to click the Like button.

To be fair, an insult is an insult. An insult can only be termed a *-ist insult if it contained a *-ist subtext that would apply only to the insultee to the exclusion of the majority of people who might otherwise be or have done the thing for which the insultee was being insulted. If a human boss running an illegal underground robot fight club, having garnished Faye's wages for using extraneous, junk parts to fix a friend up, would have earned Faye's insult as a dildo, then no, it was clearly not synthist of Faye to say that. If Faye, and Faye alone, would NOT have called a human boss running an illegal underground robot fight club, having garnished her wages for using extraneous, junk parts to fix a friend up, a dildo, but would instead have used any other epithet than dildo, or no epithet at all, then yes, Faye was being synthist in calling CORPSEWITCH a dildo.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #179 on: 16 Mar 2016, 21:59 »

I'm wondering how common it is that AI's can't afford necessary repairs. If Momo had a damaging accident, who would pay to fix her? Are there clinics that do that? Can she buy repair insurance? When Pintsize got beat up, Martin brought him to Marigold. Is this sort of informal repair the only AI option?

I gather that the robot fight club (Jeph, can we get an official name for the place?) caters to a subculture of semi-economically-attached AI's, many of whom have no decent prospects in the aboveground economy (May being a good example of how bleak prospects there would be). It could be that their best bet for repairs is to get beat up in a fight and then come to Bubbles and Faye. May was afraid to do this, as her parole could be revoked if she tried it.

Out here in the real USofA, from time to time they set up temporary free clinics for people to come with untreated medical problems. Generally there's a huge response, suggesting a large unmet need for medical care. I wonder if the same is true for AI's in QC land.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #180 on: 16 Mar 2016, 22:01 »

(Jeph, can we get an official name for the place?)

The Skatepark

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #181 on: 16 Mar 2016, 22:02 »

...Is it too late for me to mention that it was Bubbles who agreed to repair May in the shop, and Faye was just acting on Bubbles' orders? Yeah, Faye might have been willing to help out on her own, but in this case she didn't have to.

If someone else already said this nevermind. I got lost among the vitriol and counterarguments and whatnot when trying to see if anyone else had said it first.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #182 on: 17 Mar 2016, 00:09 »

Jeph definitely reads the forums, doesn't he?

As for the insult... Isn't it literally like calling a biological a 'dickhead' or something? Both in intent and in comparison, too! If it's offensive, I would argue that it's meant to be!

Meanwhile, Bubbles is trying a different kind of escape from work pressures. If she turns up wearing a MLP sweatshirt one day, I won't be able to stop laughing.

I'm wondering how common it is that AI's can't afford necessary repairs. If Momo had a damaging accident, who would pay to fix her? Are there clinics that do that? Can she buy repair insurance? When Pintsize got beat up, Martin brought him to Marigold. Is this sort of informal repair the only AI option?

I gather that the robot fight club (Jeph, can we get an official name for the place?) caters to a subculture of semi-economically-attached AI's, many of whom have no decent prospects in the aboveground economy (May being a good example of how bleak prospects there would be). It could be that their best bet for repairs is to get beat up in a fight and then come to Bubbles and Faye. May was afraid to do this, as her parole could be revoked if she tried it.

Marigold has been shown to be skilled enough to carry out even significant repairs, at least to simpler 'companion' chassis. From Parolebot's comments to May about warranties, it sounds like manufacturers, major retailers and licensed maintenance firms handle this, much as it is IRL with appliances. However, it is likely expensive if the chassis is out of warranty.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #183 on: 17 Mar 2016, 01:01 »

And then Bubbles had a vision of a huge purple dildo with large white wings, rearing dramatically against the sky....
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #184 on: 17 Mar 2016, 03:01 »

Does it smile? Is it singing? I know she's met Pintsize but I don't think she's met Dilly.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #185 on: 17 Mar 2016, 05:01 »

"Do not taint Pegasus Cove with talk of dildos!" is now one of my favorite quotes of recent memory.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #186 on: 17 Mar 2016, 05:11 »

I just want to say that I am loving the Hanners/Bubbles friendship.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #187 on: 17 Mar 2016, 05:47 »

As for the insult... Isn't it literally like calling a biological a 'dickhead' or something? Both in intent and in comparison, too! If it's offensive, I would argue that it's meant to be!

I think the question is whether it is, separately from the intended insult to the target, an insult to all AIs to imply that they don't rate being called a real dickhead.

For an imperfect analogy, your argument could be a bit like saying using the b-word for a woman is "literally" like calling someone a dog, e.g. the old-timey use of "cur" as an insult. Sure, it's literally true, but it's so missing the point.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #188 on: 17 Mar 2016, 06:05 »

In regards to AnthroPC repairs, they seem to be treated a lot like computer hardware, for lack of a better comparison. They get warranties, and you can probably buy extended maintenance plans for them. But once those plans expire, you are on your own for the costs of any repairs or replacements. There might even be an insurance industry to maintain ongoing contracts, kind of similar to automotive insurance as well. This is one case though where AIs are significantly different than humans. A human is stuck with their original chassis their entire life. No matter how badly damaged it gets,  you can't just switch out the way an AI can. If you lose parts to it, they can be replaced. But it's still a custom patch job.

A lot of repair work seems to be dependent on the chassis. Simple ones like what Pintsize or Winslow inhabit can be fixed via home repair. Marten seems to handle most of Pintsize's frequent repair work. For more complex stuff he turned to an expert with Marigold. May and Momo's chassis seems more complex, enough that it's a specialized skill and toolset to work on them. But not so much that you need extensive schooling for. To wit: The repairs were apparently more than Marigold could do. But Faye is learning them on the job. So we're probably talking automotive or robotics level skill set here, as opposed to a doctor's skill set. Something you can go to a school to learn and get accredited for, but you could also learn via an apprenticeship. Where as a doctor requires pretty extensive, multi year and multi discipline training before they get to start working on people.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #189 on: 17 Mar 2016, 08:01 »

On the insult of dildo, let's go back to Dilly for a bit. Wasn't Dilly sentient when he escaped?

I mean, it's a bit of a stretch, but if we think about it, Dilly would be a step above dicks in that regard.

(I think I should remind people that I joined the forum specifically to make a comment about Dilly and musical tastes so there's that)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #190 on: 17 Mar 2016, 09:09 »

I always wondered why "dildo" is an insult. Dildos are pretty awesome and make people happy.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #191 on: 17 Mar 2016, 09:21 »

I always wondered why "dildo" is an insult. Dildos are pretty awesome and make people happy.


It's like calling them a dick, only it's suggesting they aren't real enough for such classification
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #192 on: 17 Mar 2016, 10:02 »

Yea, but dildos are better than dicks. Way better.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #193 on: 17 Mar 2016, 10:23 »

Why do I get the feeling this thread is about five seconds from turning into that speech from Team America?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #194 on: 17 Mar 2016, 11:15 »

Let's face it - this is a world with sentient toasters. There are GOING to be literal, sentient dildos.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #195 on: 17 Mar 2016, 11:51 »

Pintsize was creating one. The one I've been calling Dilly, to be precise.

Or at least it sang. Pretty sure it was sentient tho because first it ran away and then he appeared on the back cover for Prolapse Monthly.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #196 on: 17 Mar 2016, 12:59 »

A lot of repair work seems to be dependent on the chassis. Simple ones like what Pintsize or Winslow inhabit can be fixed via home repair. Marten seems to handle most of Pintsize's frequent repair work. For more complex stuff he turned to an expert with Marigold. May and Momo's chassis seems more complex, enough that it's a specialized skill and toolset to work on them. But not so much that you need extensive schooling for. To wit: The repairs were apparently more than Marigold could do. But Faye is learning them on the job. So we're probably talking automotive or robotics level skill set here, as opposed to a doctor's skill set. Something you can go to a school to learn and get accredited for, but you could also learn via an apprenticeship. Where as a doctor requires pretty extensive, multi year and multi discipline training before they get to start working on people.

On the other hand, doctors work on people, whose parts can't be replaced/fixed easily if they make a mistake. If such a mistake happens while repairing Chassis, replacing/restoring them to the original working condition is much easier; I don't think the extent of the skill set is the difference, but the tolerance for mistakes.

The only ones who might need a proper degree to repair might be highly complex AI/Chassis like Spaceship and Station, but that would be so even without them being controlled by powerful AI.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #197 on: 17 Mar 2016, 15:06 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #198 on: 17 Mar 2016, 20:52 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3176 to 3180 (14 - 18 March 2016)
« Reply #199 on: 17 Mar 2016, 20:57 »

Emily gets to call her Miss Bubbles?  Awwww.

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