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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #100 on: 14 Sep 2016, 21:14 »

In fact, we're often told the exact opposite is true!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #101 on: 14 Sep 2016, 22:26 »

Ohmygosh, this is really true? Women appreciate guys who show their feelings? I´m having a personal epiphany here.
I´ve been doing something wrong my whole life!
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Emily looks really big in yesterdays comic. Maybe she´s wearing heels? Or she´s on the tip of her toes in panel two, because in the last panel she has shrunk to her normal size, compared to Dora.
If she was able to look though the fourth wall, I wouldn´t be surprised. As long as she doesn´t turn into QC´s Deadpool....  :-D

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #102 on: 14 Sep 2016, 22:36 »

My archive-fu is failing me, but IIRC, Emily's attitude towards heels is "never again".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #103 on: 14 Sep 2016, 23:07 »

It says sad things about Claire and Clinton's relationship to date that he's expecting his sister's first reaction to be a tidal-wave of ironic abuse. Admittedly, Claire has given him reason to expect it. I'm glad that she's growing out of it and, for that matter, the Clinton is growing up too.

Well, I did say some time ago that Clinton's gender role models were probably pretty bad. No, according to orthodox social rules, males are not allowed to have any emotion except righteous anger. I've always found that ridiculous but I imagine that someone who wasn't raised by their mother in a single-parent family probably has a much harder time resisting that social programming than I ever did.

My archive-fu is failing me, but IIRC, Emily's attitude towards heels is "never again".

For some reason, I've always imagined that Emily's only experience with heels was falling off of them. She has further to fall, after all!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #105 on: 15 Sep 2016, 02:03 »

It says sad things about Claire and Clinton's relationship to date that he's expecting his sister's first reaction to be a tidal-wave of ironic abuse. Admittedly, Claire has given him reason to expect it. I'm glad that she's growing out of it and, for that matter, the Clinton is growing up too.

Well, I did say some time ago that Clinton's gender role models were probably pretty bad. No, according to orthodox social rules, males are not allowed to have any emotion except righteous anger. I've always found that ridiculous but I imagine that someone who wasn't raised by their mother in a single-parent family probably has a much harder time resisting that social programming than I ever did.

My archive-fu is failing me, but IIRC, Emily's attitude towards heels is "never again".

For some reason, I've always imagined that Emily's only experience with heels was falling off of them. She has further to fall, after all!

They have a tendency to snipe at each other which we've known ever since we found out that Claire and Clinton were siblings.  The greatest example was the party at Emily's beach house.  Claire may be refraining from this since she realizes it's immature, but Clinton still expects it since its been their routine much of their lives.  It's all quite realistic and they have a healthier relationship than Dora and Sven. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #106 on: 15 Sep 2016, 04:21 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #107 on: 15 Sep 2016, 05:14 »

On top of that, if an AI created a device that no science can adequately explain, there's ten different reasons why this special device would not be crammed into consumer electronics.
Not quite convinced, consider the work that's been done on genetic algorithms and evolved circuits - eg Thompson http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.50.9691&rep=rep1&type=pdf .  There's a possible line of development there.

Hell, just look at how pharmaceuticals are released in our own world. Then there's the long-term ramifications of GMOs (some will be fine, others are more worrisome). Then there's the laws that get past.
"LOL, what are long term effects? I just want reelected and to find my golden meal-ticket."- some Congressman probably

Granted, I'd wager that the QCverse must have better politician. Either that or certain key families from our universe never came to power there, thus making things substantially better. Either way, I'm curious as to what sort of alternate history the QCverse clearly must have.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #108 on: 15 Sep 2016, 06:04 »

While some people try to think outside the box, Emily thinks outside the Solar System.
No no, you are still thinking Euclidean Space.

Her thoughts are more exotic in that
 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #109 on: 15 Sep 2016, 07:00 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #110 on: 15 Sep 2016, 07:28 »

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Wait, who explained this to Claire?

That's the big advantage women have over men - emotional openness is encouraged and considered a positive personal trait. So she would have literally absorbed it almost by behavioural osmosis from her various role models.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #111 on: 15 Sep 2016, 14:52 »

But during Claire's formative years, she would have been perceived, and presumably treated, as if she were male. When would she have received the cultural conditioning that a perceived-female does?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #112 on: 15 Sep 2016, 15:42 »

Her mother?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #113 on: 15 Sep 2016, 15:43 »

It's only Clinton who said he wasn't taught this stuff. Claire hasn't she was or wasn't either. It's likely that a lot of same information was there for both of them, being siblings in the same household only a couple years apart in age, but they absorbed it in different amounts and ways because of their individual personalities.

Besides it's not like there's an actual book all DFAB people get handed at some point about emotions and communication. That would be amazing and I wish I would have gotten my copy.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #114 on: 15 Sep 2016, 16:36 »

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A friend of mine went through a phase, shortly after realising this, where he would unburden himself every time he met an attractive female. It earned him quite a fair bit of positive attention.

He was being a bit Sven-like, and my attitude towards it was (come to think of it) a bit Dora-like.

Funny that I hadn't made that connection until just now.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #115 on: 15 Sep 2016, 17:22 »

On top of that, if an AI created a device that no science can adequately explain, there's ten different reasons why this special device would not be crammed into consumer electronics.
Not quite convinced, consider the work that's been done on genetic algorithms and evolved circuits - eg Thompson http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.50.9691&rep=rep1&type=pdf .  There's a possible line of development there.

Hell, just look at how pharmaceuticals are released in our own world. Then there's the long-term ramifications of GMOs (some will be fine, others are more worrisome). Then there's the laws that get past.
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Granted, I'd wager that the QCverse must have better politician. Either that or certain key families from our universe never came to power there, thus making things substantially better. Either way, I'm curious as to what sort of alternate history the QCverse clearly must have.

There is a very old thread with a title something like "How did the QC universe get so different from ours?". It had some creative suggestions.
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« Reply #116 on: 15 Sep 2016, 17:57 »

But during Claire's formative years, she would have been perceived, and presumably treated, as if she were male. When would she have received the cultural conditioning that a perceived-female does?

It's not just cultural, we think.

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Boys and girls behave in different ways and one of the stereotypical behavioral differences between them, that has often been said to be forced upon them by upbringing and social environment, is their behavior in play. Boys prefer to play with cars and balls, whereas girls prefer dolls. This sex difference in toy preference is present very early in life (3–8 months of age) . The idea that it is not society that forces these choices upon children but a sex difference in the early development of their brains and behavior is also supported by monkey behavioral studies. Alexander and Hines, who offered dolls, toy cars and balls to green Vervet monkeys found the female monkeys consistently chose the dolls and examined these ano-genitally, whereas the male monkeys were more interested in playing with the toy cars and with the ball....
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    A theory of gender development is presented that incorporates early biological factors that organize predispositions in temperament and attitudes. With activation of these factors a person interacts in society and comes to identify as male or female. The predispositions establish preferences and aversions the growing child compares with those of others. All individuals compare themselves with others deciding who they are like (same) and with whom are they different. These experiences and interpretations can then be said to determine how one comes to identify as male or female, man or woman. In retrospect, one can say the person has a gendered brain since it is the brain that structures the individual’s basic personality; first with inherent tendencies then with interactions coming from experience.

Which can be a real bummer if you identify as one sex, but have the superficial appearance of the other. It confuses others, even if it doesn't confuse you as much.

In short - Claire may have looked superficially male at one point in her life. But she was never a boy, and she always saw the world "through female eyes" so to speak. Possibly more so than most women, as there are so many barriers to transition that she'd have to be unusually discomfitted by her situation so that she was forced to do something about it. Although she's mostly healed from that now, remember she was guzzling Ativan at one stage. Being Trans hurts, though YMMV and early intervention can prevent much of that. Being treated as Trans in this society hurts more. In the QCverse, hopefully not quite so much.

Just remember that although the "gendered brain" model is appropriate to use when discussing gender identity, don't take it too far, most of what we call gender, and by that I mean 80% or more, is socially constructed. Biology is fuzzy too, my neurology is masculinised in a classic CAH female pattern (see below) yet I identify as female because the parts of my brain influencing gender identity (and much else) is definitely F. Treat people as individuals, not stereotypes.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #117 on: 15 Sep 2016, 18:18 »

I bow to your expertise. Thank you.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #118 on: 15 Sep 2016, 20:43 »

I think brains are as gendered as bodies (which is to say, yes there's a few differences and some of them are important, but mostly we can do the same day-to-day things).

As a general strategy, however, it's fairly useless to try to understand women. 

Instead, for most purposes it's far better to concentrate on a simpler problem with a smaller scope; understanding the woman (or man) whom you are interacting with.   Generalities are interesting, but specifics are vital.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #119 on: 15 Sep 2016, 21:14 »

BLEMINDA RETURNS

And she still likes large lattes.

I had never heard the term meet-cute before recently, and now I discover that it's quite an old expression. Huh.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #120 on: 15 Sep 2016, 21:22 »

Why are macchiatos so expensive?  Isn't that just a wicked dry cappuccino?
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« Reply #121 on: 15 Sep 2016, 21:38 »

A macchiato is an espresso with a smear of milk. No idea why it would be so expensive. Nor why there would be more than one size. Customers shouldn't ask about espresso at all, apparently.  :-o
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #122 on: 15 Sep 2016, 21:44 »

I want to watch the romantic comedies Emily watches.  They sound fun.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #123 on: 15 Sep 2016, 22:32 »

BLEMINDA RETURNS

And she still likes large lattes.


Is that the Bleminda from the past strip or the actual Bleminda that Emily might have mistaken her for? 

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« Reply #124 on: 15 Sep 2016, 22:51 »

I bow to your expertise. Thank you.

I should be thanking you for asking such a perceptive question. One deserving of a reply at length.
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« Reply #125 on: 15 Sep 2016, 22:55 »

I think brains are as gendered as bodies (which is to say, yes there's a few differences and some of them are important, but mostly we can do the same day-to-day things).

As a general strategy, however, it's fairly useless to try to understand women. 

Instead, for most purposes it's far better to concentrate on a simpler problem with a smaller scope; understanding the woman (or man) whom you are interacting with.   Generalities are interesting, but specifics are vital.

I wish I'd said that. +1 Insightful, and may I please steal your first line for future use (with attribution)?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #126 on: 15 Sep 2016, 23:04 »

BLEMINDA RETURNS

And she still likes large lattes.


Is that the Bleminda from the past strip or the actual Bleminda that Emily might have mistaken her for?

I don't think there was ever an actual Bleminda. Emily seems to have made up the name as part of her training to sass the customers.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #127 on: 15 Sep 2016, 23:28 »

BLEMINDA RETURNS

And she still likes large lattes.


Is that the Bleminda from the past strip or the actual Bleminda that Emily might have mistaken her for?

I don't think there was ever an actual Bleminda. Emily seems to have made up the name as part of her training to sass the customers.

I might be wrong but she looks like she's spent a bit of time in the sun. Her skin's a bit darker and her hair just has that bleached quality.
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« Reply #128 on: 15 Sep 2016, 23:29 »

Once again, we are reminded that Emily exists in a unique world not entirely like that experienced by anyone else. I'm not even going to bother to ask how a grizzly murder could be part of a 'meet-cute' because I suspect that my brain wouldn't be able to follow Emily's chain of reasoning. However, I can only assume that, if she writes fan-fiction, anything she posts under a 'romance' tag ends up being flagged to the moderators fairly quickly.

Now... Is Jeph confirming to us that Emily is still interested in Clinton and doesn't understand that she's been giving him 'no thanks' coded signals? I've been wondering that for a while now.

Meanwhile, Bleminda has started to forget that this isn't her name due to positive feedback (good coffee).


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« Reply #129 on: 15 Sep 2016, 23:37 »

Once again, we are reminded that Emily exists in a unique world not entirely like that experienced by anyone else. I'm not even going to bother how a grizzly murder could be part of a 'meet-cute'. However, I can only assume that, if she writes fan-fiction, anything she posts under a 'romance' tag ends up being flagged to the moderators fairly quickly.

Now... Is Jeph confirming to us that Emily is still interested in Clinton and doesn't understand that she's been giving him 'no thanks' coded signals? I've been wondering that for a while now.

Meanwhile, Bleminda has started to forget that this isn't her name due to positive feedback (good coffee)/

It reminds me of that episode of The Office where Dwight recalls the time he mistakenly saw Wedding Crashers instead of Grizzly Man, but stayed to the very end because bears are unpredictable and could attack at any time. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #130 on: 15 Sep 2016, 23:39 »

I know someone who has a "coffee name." Whenever she orders a coffee, she gives her exotic coffee name instead of her real one. I always thought that was a neat idea, but it can kind of backfire if you're with someone who knows you but isn't in on this.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #131 on: 16 Sep 2016, 00:32 »

I, for one, would enjoy a rom-com centered around grizzly murders. Horror romantic comedy is an underused genre.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #132 on: 16 Sep 2016, 00:40 »

The anime Elfen Lied pushes those buttons (I'd suggest School Days, but really only the last episode qualifies).
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« Reply #133 on: 16 Sep 2016, 00:56 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #134 on: 16 Sep 2016, 01:33 »

I'm imagining a Tucker & Dale type comedy of errors mixed with a lesbian rom-com.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #135 on: 16 Sep 2016, 02:42 »

"So many problems could be avoided if people just said what they were feeling." That's a dangerous path, Emily.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #136 on: 16 Sep 2016, 02:58 »

So many problems could be avoided and replaced with other different problems.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #137 on: 16 Sep 2016, 03:33 »

So many problems could be avoided and replaced with other different problems.

Pretty much every one of my life's achievements have been this.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #138 on: 16 Sep 2016, 03:36 »

Romantic comedies with body counts: There's Heathers, and, um...  :?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #139 on: 16 Sep 2016, 03:39 »

Scott Pilgrim vs. The World had the potential to go there but didn't.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #140 on: 16 Sep 2016, 03:41 »

A lot of problems could be avoided by keeping your mouth shut. Too.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #141 on: 16 Sep 2016, 04:53 »

A lot of problems could be avoided by keeping your mouth shut. Too.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #142 on: 16 Sep 2016, 05:38 »

BLEMINDA RETURNS

And she still likes large lattes.


Is that the Bleminda from the past strip or the actual Bleminda that Emily might have mistaken her for?

I'd say she's the same Bleminda, and it's just become an inside joke/nickname (assuming she's a regular who's been there more times than we've seen)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #143 on: 16 Sep 2016, 06:35 »

Well, Emily is running register today. That's who normally takes a person's name. I wouldn't put it past her to just call everyone Bleminda.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #144 on: 16 Sep 2016, 06:41 »

I know someone who has a "coffee name." Whenever she orders a coffee, she gives her exotic coffee name instead of her real one. I always thought that was a neat idea, but it can kind of backfire if you're with someone who knows you but isn't in on this.

My sister, real name undisclosed but will say that it comes from the literary work of Antonio Machado, always responds to "Ana" in coffe shops / Starbucks. She tried using her real name once and it took longer to get the person in the counter to understand the name than to get the coffee done.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #145 on: 16 Sep 2016, 07:00 »

...give an ordinary name instead of my (unusual) real one to avoid confusion
One takeaway shop I worked in did none of these things, instead we put a description in the order book and worked from that. It was a distinct art! We didn't normally let on to customers that was how we worked. It was more normal round where we were in those days to hand out tickets with numbers on, and every now and then someone might ask if we were going to give them a number. Very often we'd oblige , and write down the number in the book along with the usual description. So the customer would be sitting there seeing all the other orders handed out without any apparent identification, and then when we got to them we'd call out the number without having done it for anyone else...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #146 on: 16 Sep 2016, 11:17 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #147 on: 16 Sep 2016, 11:18 »

I think brains are as gendered as bodies (which is to say, yes there's a few differences and some of them are important, but mostly we can do the same day-to-day things).

As a general strategy, however, it's fairly useless to try to understand women. 

Instead, for most purposes it's far better to concentrate on a simpler problem with a smaller scope; understanding the woman (or man) whom you are interacting with.   Generalities are interesting, but specifics are vital.

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Go ahead.  As I've said before, that's just my opinion but you can use it too if you like.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #148 on: 16 Sep 2016, 11:34 »

Once again, we are reminded that Emily exists in a unique world not entirely like that experienced by anyone else. I'm not even going to bother to ask how a grizzly murder could be part of a 'meet-cute' because I suspect that my brain wouldn't be able to follow Emily's chain of reasoning.

I don't think I've ever seen a rom-com with poachers as the protagonists, but I that seems perfectly reasonable to me given the premise.  "Hey!  You shot the bear I'd been tracking for three days, you asshole!  That was mine!"  And then hijinks ensue, culminating in the pair of them running from the park rangers and police, having to check into hotels as husband and wife to escape notice, etc. 

Or you could cast it differently, where one of the protagonists is a park ranger who has the assignment to kill a grizzly that's attacked several people, and the other is an idealistic picketer under a "Don't Murder The Bear!!" sign. 

But I don't think either of those would have anything to do with the movie Emily was looking at.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3306 - 3310 (12th to 16th September 2016)
« Reply #149 on: 16 Sep 2016, 11:45 »

Romantic comedies with body counts: There's Heathers, and, um...  :?
Shaun of the Dead? And I disagree with Benergy, Scott Pilgrim absolutely had a body count.
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