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Predictions for the next major event in the QC cast's lives?

Clinton back-pedals so hard he actually travels 45 seconds into the past.
Faye accidentally invents a T-cog while working on an A.I. with a semi truck (lorry) for a body.
May gets Faye and Bubbles to give her wings (functional or decorative).
Marten proposes to Claire.
Faye accidentally invents a T-cog while working on an A.I. with a gorilla body. (Well that's just prime.)
Bubbles, Momo, Winslow, Punchbot, Melon, & Arthur find themselves as stars for a documentary on the everyday lives of A.I.
Faye accidentally invents a T-cog while working on Pintsize. (By the Pit!)
Brun and Clinton go on a date.
Brun and Elliot go on a date.
Brun goes on a date with Clinton and Elliot at the same time.
It turns out Brun has an identical twin sister.  Double dates!
It turns out Elliot has an identical twin brother. Double dates!
Emily makes contact with aliens.
Everybody does the sleep wonk zonk.

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EDIT: Tweaked the number of poll votes to 3. Sorry if anyone already voted.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #1 on: 25 Jun 2017, 05:05 »

I only voted for two options, mostly because I have no idea what a 'T-cog' is supposed to be.

FWIW, I can see Brun accepting invitations on a date from both Elliott and Clinton and doing both simultaneously for a 'real-time comparison of my options'.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #2 on: 25 Jun 2017, 05:15 »

Google turns up a couple of results for "t-cog". One is "The Church of God", which probably isn't relevant. The other is a "Transformation Cog" from Transformers, which apparently is what allows a Transformer to transform.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #3 on: 25 Jun 2017, 08:34 »

Google turns up a couple of results for "t-cog". One is "The Church of God", which probably isn't relevant. The other is a "Transformation Cog" from Transformers, which apparently is what allows a Transformer to transform.
I hadn't any idea of it being used to refer to  'The Church of God', and I keep forgetting what failures Hasbro's European branches are at marketing.
Might I recommend the comic book More Than Meets The Eye (frequently abbreviated MTMTE)?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #4 on: 25 Jun 2017, 14:08 »

Just imagine Faye handing May a propeller beanie when she asks how she's supposed to fly without a jetpack.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #5 on: 25 Jun 2017, 15:49 »

I was also wondering what a t-cog was. Thanks, Zebediah!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #6 on: 25 Jun 2017, 15:57 »

I'm actually surprised there isn't more crossover between Transformers and CQ fans.

Well, ignoring the movies. They suck....

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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #7 on: 25 Jun 2017, 16:06 »

Clinton goes on date with Brun, they run into Emily and somehow wind up on a triple date (Clinton, Brun, Emily)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #8 on: 25 Jun 2017, 19:37 »

Comic's up!

The way this is going, Clinton and Elliot may yet end up in a duel over who is worthier of Brun - with each insisting it is the other ...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #9 on: 25 Jun 2017, 20:02 »

"No."

Lots of things made me smile in this strip.  And I'm on Renee's side for once too!

And hopefully Elliot doesn't do anything drastic, like wanting his own robot hand.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #10 on: 25 Jun 2017, 20:10 »

Renee really just grates against a fundamental part of me and I think it's reaching a point I've gotta express that frustration. I get having screen time, I get being an unlikable character for the added depth of having a character that can be generally seen as a bother, and I even get that she has redeeming qualities. All of that doesn't matter to me anymore seeing her do a quick turn around Elliot. She's gone from a slightly negative person to straight up demeaning in today's strip with little reason to turn on Elliot like that. In fact, for a friend who's self-conscious, she seems to really like to hit them while they're down. Every bit of dialogue of hers denotes some level of venom or toxicity whilst driving to stir up drama or be overall ugly on the inside and is starting to happen so often that I'm not enjoying the comic. Worse yet, I'm feeling there's hints that she ended out of a very toxic relationship and that her attitude is all justified through it and when it's revealed it'll turn to "oh man that sucks, Renee, I feel bad for you."

Except if that does happen, I still don't think I'll ever end up enjoying her in any of the comic. At this point I genuinely get disinterested in anything she has to say or do and am almost glazing over her dialogue. Like I said, I get character complexity, but if you're a generally dislikable character, readership may go down. Now, this is just a personal opinion so I obviously can't state that Renee will cause readership to go down, but I've seen in the other WCDTs that there is a shared consensus on her being an all around downer on whatever's happening on the strip.

In the end, I guess all I hope for is that there's some sort of comeuppance for her behavior towards even straight up strangers or at the very least her realizing that she's not exactly all that hot-shit and witty as she thinks she is. Perhaps it's slight jealousy? Her friends seem to attract people while she is just there.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #11 on: 25 Jun 2017, 20:24 »

I enjoy that "He might not be a total asshole" translates into "nice" for Elliot. Apparently he is very accustomed to Renee.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #12 on: 25 Jun 2017, 21:18 »

Calling it now, Clinton and Elliott will hook up.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #13 on: 25 Jun 2017, 21:48 »

I'm actually surprised there isn't more crossover between Transformers and CQ fans.

Well, ignoring the movies. They suck....

The new one somehow involves King Arthur, apparently. I kind of want to see Stanley Tucci as Merlin, but not enough to sit through the rest of a Michael Bay Transformers movie.
TJOmega had actually asked for games that Transformers might do a crossover back in January, and I jokingly suggested Dark Souls. I was not at all expecting King Arthur. Though, apparently there was a G1 episode also involving King Arthur, and Dark of the Moon supposedly mashes up two diffferent G1 story arcs.


BTW, "That's just prime." was Optimus Primal's (Maximal leader in Beast Wars) catchphrase.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #14 on: 25 Jun 2017, 22:33 »

Well the jury may be out on Clinton, but I think they tendered their verdict on Renee months ago. 

There's certainly some sitcom hijinks in that Clinton thinks Brun would prefer Elliot because he's a big alpha male caveman and Elliot thinks Brun would prefer Clinton because he looks cool and smart.  In the end both may conclude they don't have a chance and ultimately Brun will have to make the first move. 
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« Reply #15 on: 25 Jun 2017, 22:35 »

Elliot kinda rivals Marten in sheer Nice Guy-ness. It's amusing.

You might consider that Renee is pretty much Faye before she hit bottom and bounced....  :-P

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« Reply #16 on: 25 Jun 2017, 23:15 »

In some ways, I do understand Renee here. Like her, I'm not wonderful with social matters or even emotional empathy. She wanted a relaxing social drink. She didn't want to have to deal with Elliot's angst (which triggers off too easily really) and maybe hold his hand as he deals with it. Additionally, although her words are insulting, there is a message there: She's telling Elliot not to talk himself down when he has a rival for what he wants.

Oddly enough, Clinton is saying more-or-less the same  things to Brun but in his own way!

FWIW, I'm thinking that at least some of Renee's anger is her new knowledge of her attraction to Elliot and the fact that he is clearly fixated on Brun and won't view her in that way.

Finally, I seem to remember that Brun tends to get aggressive when drunk. I'm thinking that she may end up starting a fight with someone and getting ejected. Something tells me that it may be Renee if her room-mate insists on being nasty about Clinton. Heck she may even be trying to defend Elliot, as bizarre as that sounds!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #17 on: 25 Jun 2017, 23:31 »

Calling it now, Clinton and Elliott will hook up.


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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #18 on: 26 Jun 2017, 01:31 »

I find a proposal unlikely given that in-universe their relationship is incredibly young.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #19 on: 26 Jun 2017, 03:13 »


Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...

Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.

Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

(Or... you know... something else entirely!)
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« Reply #20 on: 26 Jun 2017, 04:00 »

Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...
Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.
Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

C'mon, you missed out Clinton's part in all that!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #21 on: 26 Jun 2017, 05:03 »

Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...
Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.
Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

C'mon, you missed out Clinton's part in all that!
That's because he was clocked upside the head by Renee and he's now passed out on the floor.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #22 on: 26 Jun 2017, 05:32 »

I agree with Brun, that’s a terrible suggestion. What is wrong with you, Clinton? :parrot:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #23 on: 26 Jun 2017, 06:28 »

Calling it now, Clinton and Elliott will hook up.
As implausible as it sounds, it's the only logical conclusion by process of elimination.

Brun doesn't seem ready for romance, at least not in the way the guys would want from her. I doubt any advances would go well. At least she doesn't seem to carry her harpoon.
Renee is still using her personality as a contraceptive.
While Claire is intent on sabotaging her relationship by invading Martens privacy (remember, this is what caused Marten and Dora to break up), there's no imminent breakup, thus no imminent new hookups by either of them.
Everyone else at the bar is either an unnamed extra, or Clinton and Elliot.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #24 on: 26 Jun 2017, 06:49 »

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Renee really just grates against a fundamental part of me and I think it's reaching a point I've gotta express that frustration.

It's been fascinating to see how many times a QC character will dredge up a forum member's worst experiences and offend the member's most fundamental values.

I think objectivity would agree with you about Renee's character, or at least about her personality.

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straight up demeaning in today's strip with little reason to turn on Elliot like that. In fact, for a friend who's self-conscious, she seems to really like to hit them while they're down. Every bit of dialogue of hers denotes some level of venom or toxicity whilst driving to stir up drama or be overall ugly on the inside

"Practically a PhD in belittling people" is how I remember Angus describing her.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #25 on: 26 Jun 2017, 06:57 »

"Practically a PhD in belittling people" is how I remember Angus describing her.

Yeah - Faye may be 'abrasive' to the point of 'excessively exasperating', and certainly not one to shy away from applying 'tough love' on occasion, but there's an underlying hint of cruelty in Renee that I haven't sensed in Faye so far.

Come to think of it: If memory serves, Jeph hasn't yet written a completely unsympathetic character. Maybe Renee is QC's equivalent to Candy from Danielle Corsetto's 'Girls with Slingshots'
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #26 on: 26 Jun 2017, 08:16 »

Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...
Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.
Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

C'mon, you missed out Clinton's part in all that!

OMG !!!

I MEANT CLINTON !!!  NOT Elliott!!!

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(That's Weird, huh??!)

Oh, and.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #27 on: 26 Jun 2017, 09:06 »

I don't find Renee all that bad. And without her presence in the strip we might never have heard the phrase "bullshit sad-sack inverse dick-measuring contest".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #28 on: 26 Jun 2017, 09:47 »

In some ways, I do understand Renee here. Like her, I'm not wonderful with social matters or even emotional empathy. She wanted a relaxing social drink. She didn't want to have to deal with Elliot's angst (which triggers off too easily really) and maybe hold his hand as he deals with it. Additionally, although her words are insulting, there is a message there: She's telling Elliot not to talk himself down when he has a rival for what he wants.

This is exactly the sort of thing that someone would call Marten on.  Renee is the only one available to do the job.

Finally, I seem to remember that Brun tends to get aggressive when drunk. I'm thinking that she may end up starting a fight with someone and getting ejected. Something tells me that it may be Renee if her room-mate insists on being nasty about Clinton. Heck she may even be trying to defend Elliot, as bizarre as that sounds!

Is this the bar at which Eliot is a bouncer?  Even if not, I see a potential conflict between professional and person interestes for Elliot.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #29 on: 26 Jun 2017, 09:56 »

Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...
Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.
Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

C'mon, you missed out Clinton's part in all that!

OMG !!!

I MEANT CLINTON !!!  NOT Elliott!!!

So, what is the best way to tell a drunk girl that you would gladly kiss her once she's sober?
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« Reply #30 on: 26 Jun 2017, 10:24 »

Is this the bar at which Eliot is a bouncer?

Presumably; why else would he have asked Clinton for his ID when they arrived?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #31 on: 26 Jun 2017, 11:13 »

Is it normal for bouncers to wear a shirt with a different business' logo?
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« Reply #32 on: 26 Jun 2017, 11:21 »

Is it normal for bouncers to wear a shirt with a different business' logo?

I imagine that as long as a bouncer isn't advertising the competition, the bar wouldn't really care. Just as long as it looks tidy.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #33 on: 26 Jun 2017, 11:51 »

Well, Clinton, I guess what goes around comes around.

Still, he's grown so much from that hyper-awkward nerd he was when he started out I can't help but be happy for him.

As for Elliot... Poor dude can't seem to NOT be in weird love-triangle situations.
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« Reply #34 on: 26 Jun 2017, 13:19 »

Drunk Brun straight up asks Elliot to kiss her...
Elliott... knowing she is drunk - won't.
Hilarity ensues as Brun falls into a depression as no-one actually likes her...

C'mon, you missed out Clinton's part in all that!

OMG !!!

I MEANT CLINTON !!!  NOT Elliott!!!

So, what is the best way to tell a drunk girl that you would gladly kiss her once she's sober?

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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #35 on: 26 Jun 2017, 14:45 »

I'm starting to agree on Renee; in the beginning she just seemed like your typical, snarky QC lass, particularly in contrast to Brun's bluntness, but then she started to turn abrasive, and now she just seems outright mean-spirited. With Faye, it was all in good spirit, you could feel the heart beneath it, whereas Renee is becoming outright unlikeable at this point. It does match Angus's description of her, though, which I'd forgotten all about - I'd completely blanked on the fact that we'd even heard about her before we met Brun.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #36 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:18 »

Oh... wait wait wait wait. Isn't this bar the Horrible Revelation? If so, I predict that fancy costumes will occur, due to the overwhelming awkwardness.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #37 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:21 »

Oh... wait wait wait wait. Isn't this bar the Horrible Revelation? If so, I predict that fancy costumes will occur, due to the overwhelming awkwardness.

Furthermore, Elliot can't ask Brun out tonight, because he is on the clock.  They would have to have some fairly strict rules about that for bouncers, wouldn't they?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #38 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:23 »

Bubbles, Momo, Winslow, Punchbot, Melon, & Arthur find themselves as stars for a documentary on the everyday lives of A.I.

Not a documentary--a reality show!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #39 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:28 »

I'm starting to agree on Renee; in the beginning she just seemed like your typical, snarky QC lass, particularly in contrast to Brun's bluntness, but then she started to turn abrasive, and now she just seems outright mean-spirited.

I get why people don't like Renee, but consider her dialogue in this particular strip (#3511):  If I pasted an image of Faye over Renee in panels 3 and 4, would her lines seem at all out of place?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #40 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:42 »

That is a poor argument/excuse. It is never about a single line. Near anything can be misinterpreted if taken out of context or people can say things that are not typical for them. Renee has shown time and again that she is not a nice person. Even to people she considers friends. It goes well beyond being prickly or snarky and often into the outright mean spirited. And something can be both true, and nasty. Renee's final comment is an example, and rather self centered, making it about her and her desires, instead of Elliot. Maybe she is a friend to Brun and Elliot, but most of the time she sure isn't nice to them.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #41 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:54 »

We've seen bits of Renee's personality, especially in her more recent appearances. Abrasive she might be, but at the same time, Renee seems to be quite thin-skinned and easily offended by small things.

Now, it might be we're just seeing an (extremely) overly-protective side of her concerning Brun, but some of what she says leaves me feeling a little wary.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #42 on: 26 Jun 2017, 18:14 »

For one, dont forget she has crush on Elliot(that was tested by extremely elaborate experiment). And now that they are at bar, he frets over her friend. Is  her reaction so surprising given that?
Secondly, remember her first reaction when Brun told her about fire&apartment&Clinton? She certainly shown her friendship by worrying about her(i suspect we will never learn just what was she referencing back then).
Thirdly, for other people, well estabilished relationships can look quite weird or even hostile.

That all being said, she... I dont know, i wouldnt say she is mean or anything like that yet, but she may have that vibe? Certainly her actions make her seem better person than what impression she does.

Edit: Also, its  probably not our favourite anachronistic bar. Look at a painting in background. That doesnt look like something from HR.
Edit2: Hm, but Elliot is bouncer here, so maybe it is.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #43 on: 26 Jun 2017, 19:44 »

The issue with her bringing Brun in after the fire was that she was quick on the draw to accuse Clinton of being a straight up monster, even though Brun described him and his actions as friendly and compassionate. There's being worried about your friend being taken advantage of, and then there's what Renee did, which was project a vile archetype on Clinton, a person she had not met and knew nothing about other than being the guy who helped Brun after her bar burned down. This became even worse when she started dictating a lifestyle on Brun without thinking, though I'll give her the credit that she did relent after being confronted on it.

The problem is that in context or out of context, Renee has left an impressionable distaste in my opinion of her and it's hard for me to think of ways where that opinion would change.

I saw some say that it's like Faye without the heart involved, which is true. Faye's snark and all around attitude always ends on a note of wanting to see her friends be ok, or at least is compassionate to them under all of it. While I don't want to see a Faye 2.0 or knock-off or anything in Renee, her character archetype is just plain dislikable in and out, and I mean this from an in-comic perspective and as a reader. You can have a vile, unlikable person and still have them enjoyable to read in a comic, while Renee is downright not enjoyable to read and detracts from my personal enjoyment of the comic since I feel her place in the comic has no reasoning other than to be the insult-generator. Fun for a short, brief time, but seeing as she's gotten so much screen time in the last few months of the strip, I'm personally burnt out and done with the character.

EDIT: But let me mention that today's strip is definitely wonderful with Brun and Clinton. It's a magical thing to see two drunk people yell-agree with eachother
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #44 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:04 »

Comic!

With Clinton and Brun hitting it off, I have a feeling Renee might suddenly decide to follow up on her attraction for Elliot.

I hope so, too. That way nobody is left alone.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #45 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:12 »

Are confections not candy? Or is he saying it's bullshit because he thinks marshmallows are not candy? That being said, how could they not be candy?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #46 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:20 »

The definition of candy in the uk is quite specific, I believe - boiled lollies essentially. Confectionary is a sweet more generally. The terms are synonymous in North America.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #47 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:24 »

boiled lollies
...why would you boil a lollipop?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #48 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:28 »

Are confections not candy? Or is he saying it's bullshit because he thinks marshmallows are not candy? That being said, how could they not be candy?

My uncle used to work for a well known chocolate company and if I remember correctly you have two fairly broad categories as to what confectionery actually is.

Bakers' confectionery usually includes sweet pastries, cakes and other baked goods.

Sugar confectionery includes sweets, candy, candied nuts, chocolate, sweetmeats and so on.

Sweets, lollies and candy would be the commonly used terms for types of sugar confectionery in Britain and Ireland, Australia and New Zealand and the US and Canada respectively.

So Marshmallows would probably be classed as sugar confectionery due to how they consist of sugar, water and gelatin.

boiled lollies
...why would you boil a lollipop?
Again, lolly is usually an Australian/New Zealand term and in this instance, a boiled lolly is a boiled sweet which is hard candy.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3511 to 3515 (26 June to 30 June 2017)
« Reply #49 on: 26 Jun 2017, 20:33 »

Because that's how candy is made, essentially. You boil sugar and water until it reaches soft crack (like a caramel, sugar is pliable), or hard crack (like a lollipop, sugar is hard and do NOT make fun sugar spikes with it because they will cut you and it will bleed and hurt)

I don't consider marshmallows candy. I just realized that. And I want to make some with actual marsh mallow. Hook me up, Brits!

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