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Author Topic: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)  (Read 3749 times)

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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #50 on: 19 Mar 2019, 06:51 »

Actually that bugs me a bit when people argue it "doesn't make sense" for AI people to be a certain way or experience a certain quirk of existence, cuz like... how do you *think* 'sense' works?

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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #51 on: 19 Mar 2019, 07:47 »

I have a feeling if you shook Melon you’d hear a bunch of silly sound effects.

Dunno, but you'd probably hear a fair bit of rattling. 


I mean, someting's loose...

Now my colleagues are asking themselves why I'm chuckling all by myself... :-D
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #52 on: 19 Mar 2019, 08:18 »

I have a feeling if you shook Melon you’d hear a bunch of silly sound effects.

Dunno, but you'd probably hear a fair bit of rattling. 


I mean, someting's loose...
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #53 on: 19 Mar 2019, 17:20 »

I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs.  How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about?  Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.

The mechanism has been established in a Patreon-only strip.

The exact details aside, all that really matters is that certain sensory stimulation creates a effect in Roko's neural processes analogous to sexual stimulation in humans. TBH, the 'why' doesn't matter and likely will never be addressed. Much of what QC-verse AIs do seems to be a mystery even to them (let alone to their creators) so there may not be an easily-diagnosable cause at all. I suspect that even Roko doesn't know 'why', any more than she really knows why she has a 'tickle' response in her feet.

I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.

Oddly enough, it was Melon who asked in the Patreon-only strip. Even she doesn't entirely get it, even after Roko explains! :lol:

Which strip was it? I didn't even know he had exclusives on his Patreon, I thought he just had early previews of upcoming strips.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #54 on: 19 Mar 2019, 18:07 »

Occasionally Jeph will produce Patreon-unique comics, some of them have been used on days when either Jeph has used his buffer and/or unable to produce a comic.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #55 on: 19 Mar 2019, 20:14 »

Ah Melon!  Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong.  Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #56 on: 19 Mar 2019, 21:28 »

Ah Melon!  Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong.  Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?
I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #57 on: 19 Mar 2019, 21:33 »

Ah Melon!  Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong.  Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?
I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
If the wrong person prepares the tea:
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #58 on: 19 Mar 2019, 21:47 »

Looks like I made that cup; my tea-making process involves forgetting about the tea and letting it steep for [?error?^#@notfound] minutes.

That or it's Lipton Oolong.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #59 on: 19 Mar 2019, 22:38 »

Wow, Dora's model has really changed. At first, I thought she was Emily.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #60 on: 19 Mar 2019, 23:06 »

Ah Melon!  Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong.  Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?
I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
If the wrong person prepares the tea:
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I read this and thought to myself, "My, wouldn't it be funny to post another image under the text, 'If the right person prepares the tea:'

Googling the phrase "sexy giraffe" is as far as I got with that exercise.

If you're feeling up to it, feel free to google it yourself. Either way, I shan't bother providing an image, as I'm sure you get the gist.

If the right person prepares the tea:
<the image you are imagining here>
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #61 on: 19 Mar 2019, 23:52 »


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Googling the phrase "sexy giraffe" is as far as I got with that exercise.

If you're feeling up to it, feel free to google it yourself. Either way, I shan't bother providing an image, as I'm sure you get the gist.

If the right person prepares the tea:
<the image you are imagining here>


Ah, yes. Rule 34. Or a precursor.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #62 on: 20 Mar 2019, 00:19 »

Ah, Melon! So wonderfully full of good intentions and love and so woefully unable to communicate her needs to people around her! :lol:

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that this Oolong Tea is going to be a Chekhov's Gun of some sort. Roko is going to try sniffing it and whatever hallucination it generates is going to trigger something. What in particular I'm not sure but it's going to happen.

Meanwhile, Dora is looking beautiful today. She's also looking confused and Emily is not making it any easier. Just when she'd more-or-less decided that customers are just weird and she shouldn't try to get them, Emily comes along and plants the seed in her head that everyone else is normal and that Dora's the one who is somehow out-of-step with reality. When Jeph mentions Fairy Girl in the footer text it does remind us that there's something intrinsically crazy about QC Northampton that means the sane may be out-of-place there!

As a final PS, Jeph has clearly heard the complaints that Dora and Emily are occasionally hard to tell apart and that's why he made today's strip. Emily is taller, has different-shaped eyes and a more angular face.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #63 on: 20 Mar 2019, 00:28 »

Also, Dora and Emily have different hairstyles. also, Emily doesn't seem to change hers as often as dora does.


Aaaaaaand: Emily would never look as confused as dora does in panel 3. And Melon probably would know her by now, at least I believe she wouldn't go for "Hello human lady" with Emily.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #64 on: 20 Mar 2019, 00:55 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
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« Reply #65 on: 20 Mar 2019, 01:18 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)

I thought about thinking it, but was 'meh' instead.
I was closer to daaaaaaang!ing Roko in the one before.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #66 on: 20 Mar 2019, 01:28 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)

I thought about thinking it, but was 'meh' instead.
I was closer to daaaaaaang!ing Roko in the one before.
There is something about robutts in this comic...
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« Reply #67 on: 20 Mar 2019, 01:52 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)

I thought about thinking it, but was 'meh' instead.
I was closer to daaaaaaang!ing Roko in the one before.
There is something about robutts in this comic...


There might be an explanation for that.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #68 on: 20 Mar 2019, 03:15 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)

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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #69 on: 20 Mar 2019, 05:18 »

Melon has no clue, but she has a good heart.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #70 on: 20 Mar 2019, 09:13 »

Dora just hasn't been looking like Dora; the projection of self-confidence that's been a hallmark (even when it's not justified) of the Dora model is missing today.
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« Reply #71 on: 20 Mar 2019, 09:19 »

Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
Faye and Bubbles do good work.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #72 on: 20 Mar 2019, 09:52 »

Dora just hasn't been looking like Dora; the projection of self-confidence that's been a hallmark (even when it's not justified) of the Dora model is missing today.

JJ's drawing style has shifted lately, towards a bit larger eyes. and that might make current dora look like earlier Emily in certain instances At least that's what I think.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #73 on: 20 Mar 2019, 10:39 »

If all the characters reflect a little bit of the artist, and Jeph himself has described Pintsize as "dangerously obsessed with butts;" ....hmmmm.....

Whatever the reason, the man does draw a fine arse.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #74 on: 20 Mar 2019, 11:38 »

Melon has no clue, but she has a good heart.

Well, coolant pump, at least.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #75 on: 20 Mar 2019, 20:32 »

Comic's up.

And I want to like Melon, I really do, but I don't know, maybe less is more.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #76 on: 20 Mar 2019, 22:33 »

Okay, totally shipping Elliot and Roko now.
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« Reply #77 on: 21 Mar 2019, 00:15 »

I think that this is a dream come true for Roko: Being able to excuse herself whilst someone else explains objective reality to Melon!

What makes me laugh here is Melon's childlike innocence. Naturally, she has a hard time imagining why Roko might have invited someone into her apartment. After all, what might you do there that you wouldn't do outdoors? Surely it isn't as much fun indoors?

I just wonder how long Roko and Elliot have been talking about inconsequential things, just unwilling to end the interaction? :-D
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #78 on: 21 Mar 2019, 00:43 »

Wash her face?  Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room? 
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« Reply #79 on: 21 Mar 2019, 00:51 »

Wash her face?  Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?

Nope, Probably she's just taking a look at her butt emblem again. It IS fancy after all.

I just wonder how long Roko and Elliot have been talking about inconsequential things, just unwilling to end the interaction? :-D

I'd say something like ten minutes. Or whatever time it was for them to justify get comfortable.
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« Reply #80 on: 21 Mar 2019, 02:23 »

Wash her face?  Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?

Definitely. Roko may love Melon but I don't think that she's in the mood to listen to Elliot try to convince her that he has a legitimate reason to be in the apartment other than "I don't know how to find where I live".
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #81 on: 21 Mar 2019, 03:18 »

"Roko are you home? I hope so, because your door was unlocked!"

That's the most logical thing I remember Melon saying...
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #82 on: 21 Mar 2019, 03:28 »

Wash her face?  Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?
She did just finish a shift at a bakery. She probably has flour on it.
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« Reply #83 on: 21 Mar 2019, 05:09 »

Wash her face?  Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?

...

(waited to edit)

I think we might be dealing with dysphoria here with Roko. And OCD-like actions might be part of that.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #84 on: 21 Mar 2019, 08:07 »

Comic's up.

And I want to like Melon, I really do, but I don't know, maybe less is more.
Have to agree with this. Melon was originally more of a comedy character for filler strips, more along the lines of Yelling Bird. Having her actually interact on a regular basis with our main characters and contribute to the plot feels weird.
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« Reply #85 on: 21 Mar 2019, 10:00 »

Well, she's not a toy. Same as Steve, Pintsize, Emily, etc.

well they're all toys, sort of, but y'know what i'm saying?

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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #86 on: 21 Mar 2019, 10:11 »

Melon, to me, kinda feels like the same type of joke told repeatedly.
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« Reply #87 on: 21 Mar 2019, 11:05 »

I just think it's cute that Melon is like, "aha!  I can finally get the better of someone for once."  :)
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« Reply #88 on: 21 Mar 2019, 11:08 »

Melon, to me, kinda feels like the same type of joke told repeatedly.

I made no secret of feeling the same way.

Recently, though, I was *almost* ready to cut her some slack. For some reason, today's comic reset me to not liking her appearances. I can't quite put my finger on why.

EDIT: it might be that it's my pet peeve when people (fictional or otherwise) impose the way they act or think upon others. When someone acts or reacts unusually, I'm fine with this (or consciously try to be, at least). Even when it's very unusual and even somewhat disruptive for others. But when those same people act like others share in their experience, I immediately go to "no, it's all you".

Maybe it's because I've had to spend a lot of my life figuring out how others seem to think and feel extremely unlike the way I tend to, but people who are either unable or unwilling to step outside their heads at ALL and just kind of assume everyone is like them rub me the wrong way. I don't exactly *blame* Melon, because she seems to be cognitively impaired in some way, but character development like this still... I don't know what word to use. Unsettles me? Annoys me?
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« Reply #89 on: 21 Mar 2019, 11:42 »

Melon, to me, kinda feels like the same type of joke told repeatedly.

I made no secret of feeling the same way.

Recently, though, I was *almost* ready to cut her some slack. For some reason, today's comic reset me to not liking her appearances. I can't quite put my finger on why.

EDIT: it might be that it's my pet peeve when people (fictional or otherwise) impose the way they act or think upon others. When someone acts or reacts unusually, I'm fine with this (or consciously try to be, at least). Even when it's very unusual and even somewhat disruptive for others. But when those same people act like others share in their experience, I immediately go to "no, it's all you".

Maybe it's because I've had to spend a lot of my life figuring out how others seem to think and feel extremely unlike the way I tend to, but people who are either unable or unwilling to step outside their heads at ALL and just kind of assume everyone is like them rub me the wrong way. I don't exactly *blame* Melon, because she seems to be cognitively impaired in some way, but character development like this still... I don't know what word to use. Unsettles me? Annoys me?

That is a good reason to not like someone.

Yes, Melon probably only was intented more as comic relief, but she's fully canon now. Up to now every character of some regularity got some kind of redemption possibility. If there's no place for Melon to grow, she'll be restricted to what she is: a slight nuisance, used as comic relief. Or she'll be eaten by an allobot.
Also, I've got the feeling the more people start complaining about Melon in a certain way, the more Melon we'll see.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #90 on: 21 Mar 2019, 12:44 »

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Maybe it's because I've had to spend a lot of my life figuring out how others seem to think and feel extremely unlike the way I tend to, but people who are either unable or unwilling to step outside their heads at ALL and just kind of assume everyone is like them rub me the wrong way. I don't exactly *blame* Melon, because she seems to be cognitively impaired in some way, but character development like this still... I don't know what word to use. Unsettles me? Annoys me?

Some people, or characters, just make your brain itch. It's understandable. And then you feel bad, especially when they can't help it.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #91 on: 21 Mar 2019, 19:40 »

Comic is up!

Hope Roko isn’t having a Poltergeist moment.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #92 on: 21 Mar 2019, 20:37 »

Just compulsively washing her face.

Can an AI have a breakdown?
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« Reply #93 on: 21 Mar 2019, 21:05 »

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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #94 on: 21 Mar 2019, 21:05 »

Just compulsively washing her face.

Can an AI have a breakdown?

I would say we're looking right at it. Oef.
I hope Eliot doesn't divert from his own instinct because of melon's response.
(Oh man I seriously dislike it when people undermine 'helping' senses of others like that, I feel like that's almost never a good idea. You need to have a very solid reason to why you *know* your idea about the "to be helped" person would be better at that moment. And people are already so unsure of themselves, don't want to impose, that you do damage the situation so easily.)
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« Reply #95 on: 21 Mar 2019, 22:56 »

Well. There's more to it than just her wanting to escape Melon, I guess.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #96 on: 21 Mar 2019, 23:15 »

Seems like Roko isn't responding to washing her face the way she used to. Let's just hope she didn't destroy her dermal covering... but that'd be a good reason to return to UR.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #97 on: 22 Mar 2019, 00:14 »

No, Roko, I'm afraid that you can't wash away your new body, no matter how hard you try.

Yeah, it looks like Jeph has decided to not just magically wave away Roko's problems. I'm glad that Elliot is there right now because I doubt that poor Melon has even slightly the right mental or emotional equipment for this situation. I doubt that I would either, beyond insisting that the person stay with me so that I can ensure that they don't self-harm.


I hope Eliot doesn't divert from his own instinct because of melon's response.

I can's see anything wrong with Melon's response. All that she's doing is saying 'I don't know and I don't have the common sense to identify a red flag', which shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #98 on: 22 Mar 2019, 00:49 »

Oh god. She doesn't see herself in the mirror. It looks like her, but it isn't her. Not really her. And every time she looks away from the mirror, she desperately hopes that the next time she looks up she'll see herself looking back, but she doesn't. And every time it crushes her a little more.

I fucking HATE mirrors. More than anything. Except maybe fitting rooms.

While I generally really appreciate the fact that Jeph doesn't make Claire's story about being trans* (that she isn't just "the trans* character"), I think she's probably the best equipped to understand how Roko is feeling right now. I kinda hope they get a chance to talk.
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Re: WCDT strips 3961-3965 (18-22 March 2019)
« Reply #99 on: 22 Mar 2019, 01:57 »


Dammit...
Just when we were starting to think "Hey! Looks like Roko's got a handle on this thang!"

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