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Re: The Mandalorian
« Reply #100 on: 27 Nov 2020, 16:03 »

I was looking forward to seeing Ashoka Tano but I felt like today's episode was kind of underwhelming even with that
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« Reply #101 on: 27 Nov 2020, 20:21 »

I actually loved this episode. It kept in the western/samurai feel of the show, gave us backstory on a key character and had 3 huge reveals:

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I was whelmed, and hyped for where we're going.
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« Reply #102 on: 29 Nov 2020, 11:35 »

So I'm just watching Ep1, Season 1 and ... I'm pretty sure Werner Herzog is consciously exaggerating certain 'German' mannerisms in his pronounciation. It's actually a bit grating, tbh. I'm wondering how this sounds to Anglophones? Could it be that he does that because he thinks this sounds ... badass ... to Anglo ears?

To me, it just sounds ... well, like someone consciously exaggerating stereotypically 'German' bad pronounciation habits (or rather, what Anglophones think is a 'typically German' pronounciation). Not threatening. Not intimidating. If anything, it sounds like he badly needs to go to the restroom.
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« Reply #103 on: 29 Nov 2020, 13:04 »

So I'm just watching Ep1, Season 1 and ... I'm pretty sure Werner Herzog is consciously exaggerating certain 'German' mannerisms in his pronounciation. It's actually a bit grating, tbh. I'm wondering how this sounds to Anglophones? Could it be that he does that because he thinks this sounds ... badass ... to Anglo ears?

More 'cliche villain,' I think.
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« Reply #104 on: 29 Nov 2020, 15:50 »

Ok, I'm sold. This is great SW fun.

(Han still drew first, though)



More 'cliche villain,' I think.

Hmmh. Still think like he sounds like he's holdiing in a wee.


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« Reply #105 on: 29 Nov 2020, 17:42 »

Hmmh. Still think like he sounds like he's holdiing in a wee.

I now need to rewatch the episode with this mental image.
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« Reply #106 on: 29 Nov 2020, 19:15 »

So I'm just watching Ep1, Season 1 and ... I'm pretty sure Werner Herzog is consciously exaggerating certain 'German' mannerisms in his pronounciation. It's actually a bit grating, tbh. I'm wondering how this sounds to Anglophones? Could it be that he does that because he thinks this sounds ... badass ... to Anglo ears?

To me, it just sounds ... well, like someone consciously exaggerating stereotypically 'German' bad pronounciation habits (or rather, what Anglophones think is a 'typically German' pronounciation). Not threatening. Not intimidating. If anything, it sounds like he badly needs to go to the restroom.

Is it weird that I didn't get "German" from his pronunciations? Honestly it seems more about his cadence, spoken prose, and enunciation that I just really dig. I could listen to him read the nutritional facts off a bag of chips. Especially in the 7th episode, but that may be more how his lines were written married up with his accent. He does remind me of a bond villain though, and if I didn't know his name was a dead give away of being German I would have thought he was Scandinavian like Mads Mikkelsen. It does seem close to his natural accent from watching him on the Late Night Show with Conan O'Brien and when he played an alien talking about human culture on Rick and Morty.
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« Reply #107 on: 30 Nov 2020, 23:18 »

I mean, to me he definitely did sound like a continental who learned english from another continental, not necessarily German though. Now that I think about it maybe he was trying to sound more Aristocratic about it, being some Imperial and all? And same as Tova, I put it up to riffing on the 'Cliche' villain' approach to accents.
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« Reply #108 on: 01 Dec 2020, 03:26 »

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Hmmh. Still think like he sounds like he's holdiing in a wee.

I now need to rewatch the episode with this mental image.

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« Reply #109 on: 02 Dec 2020, 05:21 »

Yeah, that's just how Werner Herzog sounds, to the point that I always recognize his voice before his face. It's not a thing he did for this character. He was even on Parks and Rec! Spoilers, it's a late episode, but yeah.
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« Reply #110 on: 02 Dec 2020, 09:13 »

What bugs me a bit about the Disney+ canon: It's not even been half a century and everybody is like' "Hohum Jedi? What's a Jedi? Can you eat it?" Honestly, if I'd been a Jedi Purge survivor like Kenobi, and those ingratiates had forgotten 10.000 years of service in a mere handful of decades, I'd say Fuck Those Fuckers.

YesYes Palpatine 'suppressed talk about the Jedi'. I highly doubt the Empire managed to out-compete the Stasi in terms of snitches per capita.
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« Reply #111 on: 02 Dec 2020, 09:25 »

I think that the issue is that so few people actually saw a real force adept in action that they were already part urban myth at the time of the Purge and they were so easily reduced to a tattered and hidden remnant that most people question if they were ever really anything but a bunch of nutty cultists.

Then you run into Anakin Skywalker's apprentice, who is only too pleased to demonstrate why she is the Last Woman Standing from the Clone Wars.
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« Reply #112 on: 02 Dec 2020, 09:42 »

Really? In 24BBY, a stroppy Padawan with a penchant for loosing his saber can go "This is Jedi business" to a packed bar and everybody goes minding their own - and not even 40 years later, nobody knows what a Jedi is anymore?

Even if Palpatine had found every last record about the Jedi in the entire Galaxy, you'd need to suppress a memory of a major pillar of Galactic society for at least three generations for it to start to die out. And there's species that live considerably longer than humans in that farfaraway Galaxy.

What do you figure how many people had seen Richard Coer de Lion in his lifetime? Or Joan of Arc?


Which makes me wonder - There is a bona fide Jedi Rebellion Hero around in 10ABY. Apparently, everybody knows what they were doing when the second Death Star blew up - but nobody knows that the guy who blew up the first one and who takes half the credit for defeating Palpatine is a Jedi? IIRC, in the EU, Mon Mothma was only too happy to fling her Jedi sibling heroes into everybodies' faces, to reassure the systems of the Republic so they wouldn't go Separatist.

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« Reply #113 on: 02 Dec 2020, 16:38 »

I think most places that are like, "What's a Jedi," are the Outer Rim where few people are or go
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« Reply #114 on: 02 Dec 2020, 19:29 »

I think most places that are like, "What's a Jedi," are the Outer Rim where few people are or go
Pretty much this. Also During the Clone Wars, Republic propaganda down played the deeds of the Jedi and mostly focused on the Clones and other Republic related actions. Post-Jedi Purge there was a huge Imperial propaganda goal to demonize them, in hopes of getting people to flush out and report any survivors. It's one of the reasons why the Rebel Alliance venerated them, as a symbol of the old republic. Which is why they really picked up on using "May the Force be with you" as a phrase. We the audience know very well what a Jedi was and unless you were in the core or mid rim worlds, or actively participated in the Clone Wars with a Jedi around, you may not have heard of them, had a limited understanding of them, or heard what was assumed to be exaggerated stories. The outer rims were pretty lawless and largely ignored by the old republic. The Empire on the other hand made sure their presence was felt everywhere.
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« Reply #115 on: 04 Dec 2020, 02:59 »

I think most places that are like, "What's a Jedi," are the Outer Rim where few people are or go

Unless you're in one of the few series of the Extended Universe that didn't get nixxed (Alien Chronicles). Then it's "What's the Force?" while some characters are still Force-sensitive.
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« Reply #116 on: 04 Dec 2020, 14:30 »

This may be my favorite episode of the Mandalorian so far, until next week maybe

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« Reply #117 on: 04 Dec 2020, 21:38 »

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« Reply #118 on: 05 Dec 2020, 08:25 »

[snip]Honestly it seems more about his cadence, spoken prose, and enunciation that I just really dig. I could listen to him read the nutritional facts off a bag of chips.[snip]
I suppose I can see where you're coming from with that. Though, for me, that accolade goes to 'Mr. Shoes' voicing Amaroq.
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« Reply #119 on: 05 Dec 2020, 08:49 »

Cowboy BeeBop style Mandalorian Season 1 intro


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« Reply #121 on: 05 Dec 2020, 23:07 »

Ah, I get you now.
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« Reply #122 on: 12 Dec 2020, 21:34 »

I think episode 7 is the best episode of season 2 so far. Especially with how the prisoner character was handled. Really humanized them.
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« Reply #123 on: 12 Dec 2020, 22:57 »

Also, nice 'Office Space' reference 😁
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« Reply #124 on: 13 Dec 2020, 02:28 »

Relevant Side Note:

Two of the new series announced by Disney+ this week are likely direct spin-offs of The Mandelorian. I'm sure that the golden handcuffs that are being offered to Dave Filloni and Jon Favreau will be impressive to see!
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« Reply #125 on: 13 Dec 2020, 08:15 »

Also, nice 'Office Space' reference 😁

I genuinely loved that line! I squealed with laughter. Not sure if it was in the script or if he improvised the line, but it was damn good.
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« Reply #126 on: 15 Dec 2020, 21:09 »

I think episode 7 is the best episode of season 2 so far.
Agreed. After this episode, I hope Mayfeld ends up being the Doug Judy to Mando's Peralta, and shows up once a season. I'd be surprised if that doesn't happen, but I really hope it does.
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« Reply #127 on: 18 Dec 2020, 20:57 »

I loved the finale. It was great! I went on twitter afterwards and was kind of surprised to see a lot of cynicism towards it. Personally I thought it was fun, intense, and dramatic. I am curious on what they're going to do for season 3 though...

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« Reply #128 on: 18 Dec 2020, 21:01 »

I went on twitter afterwards and was kind of surprised to see a lot of cynicism towards it.

I can't say that I am. It seems inevitable.
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« Reply #129 on: 18 Dec 2020, 22:08 »

It's twitter. Twits are gonna tweet.

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« Reply #130 on: 19 Dec 2020, 06:53 »

Yeah those are valid nitpicks but some people are treating this season likes its season 8 of GoT. This baffles me.

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« Reply #131 on: 19 Dec 2020, 09:16 »

Soooo....

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« Reply #133 on: 20 Dec 2020, 05:58 »

Soooo....

I said as much to my wife after the episode. However we don't really know. There's a lot that can happen between now and then.

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« Reply #134 on: 20 Dec 2020, 06:21 »

Soooo....

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« Reply #135 on: 20 Dec 2020, 13:54 »

Soooo....

I said as much to my wife after the episode. However we don't really know. There's a lot that can happen between now and then.

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