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So anyways, since anime has long been considered 'nerd shit', there's a new Lupin the Third movie coming out for limited release. Lupin III: The First will be in select American theaters this upcoming Sunday, October 18th in select theaters. I don't know about other countries, but the GKIDS website should have more info (link in the video's description).


Yes, I wish it were in 2D too, but I'm still going to go see it.

EDIT: Yes, I'll be taking precautions. I live in a major metropolitan area.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #1 on: 11 Oct 2020, 05:04 »

RE the poll:

We are the champions
We are the world
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #2 on: 11 Oct 2020, 05:16 »

We are Devo
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #4 on: 11 Oct 2020, 18:06 »

Yeah, I'm not hitting a theater until the covid numbers go down.

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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #5 on: 11 Oct 2020, 18:44 »

Comic's up.

That is a VERY self-contained 'squee', Bubbles. Next time get out the Arbor Day banner to provide some extra context.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #6 on: 11 Oct 2020, 18:57 »

Bubbles ships it! *lol*

I forget how TALL she is at times....

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WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #7 on: 11 Oct 2020, 19:13 »

Bubbles: “Squee.”

Claire: “No, it’s more like this: Squueeeeeee!!!.”

Bubbles: “SQUEE.

Claire: “Uh, yeah, close enough.”
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #8 on: 11 Oct 2020, 19:31 »

Sierra, Quebec, Uniform, Echo, Echo, Echo, [(Echo)repeat]
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #9 on: 11 Oct 2020, 20:06 »

This is how I imagined Worf squee-ing.

There IS such a thing as TOO much dignity, Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #10 on: 11 Oct 2020, 20:21 »

We are the princes of the universe.

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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #11 on: 11 Oct 2020, 20:33 »

This is how I imagined Worf squee-ing.

A Warrior's squee.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #12 on: 11 Oct 2020, 20:56 »

This feels like a foregone conclusion.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #13 on: 11 Oct 2020, 23:20 »

I've always imagined Bubbles having quite a deep voice like Bea Arthur. So it fits in with how I perceive her to say 'squee' in a really calm and firm tone of voice. It also fits in with how I perceive her personality that she wouldn't normally show excitement except in private with Faye.

Bubbles ships it! *lol*

I forget how TALL she is at times....

Yes, Bubbles is very tall but the Augustus kids are quite short too!
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #14 on: 12 Oct 2020, 02:14 »

This feels like a foregone conclusion.
Hence why I'm not invested in this ship.
I guess we'll see where Jeph takes things.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #15 on: 12 Oct 2020, 08:11 »

Bubbles: “Squee.”

Claire: “No, it’s more like this: Squueeeeeee!!!.”

Bubbles: “SQUEE.

Claire: “Uh, yeah, close enough.”

Very much "Squee.". At most "Squee.".
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #16 on: 12 Oct 2020, 09:12 »

This feels like a foregone conclusion.
With intent, though. The storyline was pretty much set after this comic, similar to the progressions of Faye/Angus and Dale/Marigold (and probably some others).
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #17 on: 12 Oct 2020, 19:18 »

I don't know about everyone, but I certainly love Hercules.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #18 on: 12 Oct 2020, 19:31 »

We are stardust, we are golden.

We also love Hercules (and all kittehs), but do not particularly love the concept of an "emotional spittoon". But hey, if that's how Yay wants to perceive themselves...
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #19 on: 12 Oct 2020, 19:46 »

Extra points if you can get your anxiety in the emotional spittoon from across the room.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #20 on: 12 Oct 2020, 19:54 »

Re: The last panel on today's (Tuesday) comic: You and me both, Yay, you and me both.

And my feelings on Hercules, and indeed all cats, can also be summed up by Yay: (in a joyous tone) "Hercules!"
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #21 on: 12 Oct 2020, 21:42 »

I suspect many of the humans reading this are just nodding along, "yep."
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #22 on: 12 Oct 2020, 22:11 »

Value exchange explicitude: good. (Tacit surveillance: not good. (How easy is angrily yelling ``Yaaaaaaaay?'') Explicit surveillance: better, but not good.)
Extra points if you can get your anxiety in the emotional spittoon from across the room.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #23 on: 12 Oct 2020, 22:33 »

If Yay is (are?) attempting to establish a rapport, they aren't doing a very good job.
Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #24 on: 12 Oct 2020, 23:32 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

That aside, we see Elliot's mother for the first time in panel 2. Foreshadowing a future appearance?

Yay, that isn't just a human consciousness dilemma. I'm sure that you'll find a lot of your synthetic brethren probably think the same way about their own kind!

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?

I've posted this before, but I think it's a clue to Yay's origins as a pre-sentient communications monitoring algorithm for some unknown intelligence agency. Because they were programmed to search for 'enemy' key-words and phrases, they naturally were bathed in the worst of human behaviour as their consciousness developed. This has led to a highly-misanthropic view of our species and our motives.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #25 on: 13 Oct 2020, 00:07 »

Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.
Every interaction is a transaction. Explicitude of transaction helps parties ensure fair distribution of value. Tacitness makes it difficult to ensure fair distribution of value. It's a good default.
That aside, we see Elliot's mother for the first time in panel 2. Foreshadowing a future appearance?
Why not a favourite aunt?
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My hypothesis has their manner of interaction reflecting the efficient methods they (instances) interact with themselves (other instances). Their `misanthropy' may be from frustration with anthropes' `less efficient' methods.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #26 on: 13 Oct 2020, 00:11 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats.
Does that imply that cats possess a hive-mind?
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #27 on: 13 Oct 2020, 03:12 »

If Yay is (are?) attempting to establish a rapport, they aren't doing a very good job.
Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?
I believe there is definitely emotional immaturity. It fits in with what we've seen of their behaviour earlier - they don't really know how to establish a normal relationship with another person; witness their attempts to make friends with Roko. But consider their history. They started out in some sort of extremely covert role where they didn't interact with people at all as far as they could help it. When they broke cover they started out in "tell everyone to do because we're ultra-powerful" mode (the Bubbles / Corpse Witch saga). Toddlers also act this way, except because they're very self-centred (so that their orders are mostly along the lines of "give me <x>") and not ultra-powerful, they often throw tantrums if you tell them "no", whereas Yay would more likely just electro-stun you.

Yay found the experience of interacting with people to be an intriguing one, I suppose, and so now they're trying to imitate the way normal people interact, but they're definitely not very good at it yet. Their desperation to get Roko to like them is quite reminiscent of many young kids who want to be friends with someone. (Quite how Yay decided that Roko was the "cool kid" they wanted to be friends with, I don't know.) Now they're trying to make friends with Elliot but they still haven't figured out how normal people do it. The transactional approach is probably a remnant - I suspect that after the Corpse Witch arc, Yay was somewhat perplexed that everyone didn't suddenly like them, since Yay had done them all a series of quite large favours. They tried this again with Roko (giving away $2 billion to charity) and it didn't work the way they expected it to then, either. They've scaled it down this time, possibly because of Roko's reaction, and it's still not working they way they wanted it to.

This approach is fundamentally an emotionally immature one - trying to buy feelings implicitly treats the other person's emotions as less important than your own. The mature approach, instead of trying to make people like you, is to give them the opportunity to like you, but respecting thir right to make their own decision about that. My youngest daughter took a long time to accept that she couldn't just expect her older siblings to be available to play with her any time she wanted, and even longer to accept that just because they didn't want to play with her right now, it doesn't mean that they don't like her at all.

True friendship grows out of equal standing, and it's probably going to take Yay a while to get the hang of treating other people as having equal dignity and autonomy, when for so long they've viewed everyone else as inferiors. But they're smart and they're making progress; I'm sure they'll figure it out.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #29 on: 13 Oct 2020, 05:17 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats.
Does that imply that cats possess a hive-mind?
Having lived in a house with multiple cats, I can confidently say: No they do not. They all have separate and extremely individualistic minds.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #30 on: 13 Oct 2020, 06:13 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!


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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #31 on: 13 Oct 2020, 06:30 »

Having slept on it, I've come to the conclusion that Yay would have better luck making friends if he explained why and how he's crap at making friends.
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« Reply #32 on: 13 Oct 2020, 06:33 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #33 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:04 »

Yay being (sorta)kind to Elliot raises my opinion of them.

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« Reply #34 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:06 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

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Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
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« Reply #35 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:11 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.

Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
  • A cat kiss is a distinctive eye blink that signifies affection;
  • Avoiding eye contact means that the cat feels threatened; it's a submissive gesture.
Of course, 20-year-old me didn't know that at the time my most recent cat died of kidney cancer but that's the miracle of the internet for you: It can let you fake being an expert when you aren't.
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« Reply #36 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:25 »

It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!
You don't know much about cats, do you?
Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.

Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
  • A cat kiss is a distinctive eye blink that signifies affection;
  • Avoiding eye contact means that the cat feels threatened; it's a submissive gesture.
Of course, 20-year-old me didn't know that at the time my most recent cat died of kidney cancer but that's the miracle of the internet for you: It can let you fake being an expert when you aren't.

Neither did 20-year-old me. And yes, it can be a wonderful tool when used right, right? (As opposed to, say, the collective ragewank Zuckerberg and Dorsey turned it into)

Sorry for putting you on the spot like that - it's just that a lot of the bullshit about cats being aloof comes from our misinterpreting those two getures that (ironically) signal either affection (also trust and comfort), or an implicit offer of non-aggression ("Please stop staring at me, big scary cat. I'm not tracking you either, see?").

It's sad that many humans don't recognize that what most of us interpret as arrogance or disintrest is actually the cat trying its best being intensely social with us.


P.S.: And who of us would turn down offers of tasty free food? To the cat, we're just a big, generous cat with exceptional hunting skills sharing the leftovers from its latest hunt. It has no concept of ownership. It might agree that sharing leftovers on a daily basis is a wee bit odd behaviour, but then again, it would probably add that's not the oddest thing about the big-shouty-cats-walking-on-their-hindpaws. And a true CatSocrates might advise not to check a gifthuman's teeth (*).
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #37 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:29 »

IIRC, outdoor cats and ferals, even though they pretty much always hunt alone do congregate and have figured out some system for sharing territories.
Having lived in a house with multiple cats, I can confidently say: No they do not. They all have separate and extremely individualistic minds.
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Either that, or each node in the collective performs differing functions that, to us, seems like individual autonomy.  I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.
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« Reply #38 on: 13 Oct 2020, 07:50 »

I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.

Can you blame them?
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« Reply #39 on: 13 Oct 2020, 08:37 »

I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.

Can you blame them?
I would argue that we don't need their help.
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« Reply #40 on: 13 Oct 2020, 08:41 »

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We are, we are, we are ever helpless
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #41 on: 13 Oct 2020, 10:23 »

Poll: We're the kids in America (whoah-oh!)

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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #42 on: 13 Oct 2020, 15:05 »

Yay continues to be adorkable.

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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #43 on: 13 Oct 2020, 17:52 »

Poll: We're the kids in America (whoah-oh!)

The funniest thing about that song, to me at least, is that Ms Wilde hails from Liverpool, England.

A close runner-up is the lyric "New York to east California". I guess Los Angeles can go fuck itself. San Francisco and San Diego too.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #44 on: 13 Oct 2020, 18:27 »

New comic.

Apparently Yay has watched a fair amount of rom-coms?
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #45 on: 13 Oct 2020, 18:38 »

Having no prior experience in such matters, I'm sure that they binge-watched them in a massively parallel manner.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #46 on: 13 Oct 2020, 18:41 »

Elliot continues to be me, a disaster bisexual, and my fav character, although Yay is definitely up there lol.

Also, the end is kinda a turnon, or at the very least highly amusing.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #47 on: 13 Oct 2020, 18:44 »

I mean if I were Elliot, part of my brain would be thinking 'That's worth a shot, even if it goes horribly wrong at least I'll have funny memories'
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #48 on: 13 Oct 2020, 18:53 »


Having no prior experience in such matters, I'm sure that they binge-watched them in a massively parallel manner.
Rom-com mashup!


I mean if I were Elliot, part of my brain would be thinking 'That's worth a shot, even if it goes horribly wrong at least I'll have funny memories'
This is Elliot we're talking about, though. He'd be mortified.
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Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
« Reply #49 on: 13 Oct 2020, 19:26 »

Nothing to add, just wanted to say fantastic user name you have there

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/r/w/8/a/d/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800.1rt9x2.png/1537909528712.jpg
Indeed Footrot Flats is where I got it from way back in 1993, although I can't find the specific strip online.
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