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Well, that went poorly. What next?

The morning after discussion and hangover
Clinton blows his chances with Roko on his way home
Checking in with Roko
Faye and Yay become arch frienemies
May gets her comeuppance and brought back to Earth
Checking in with Winslow and the support group
Checking in with Hanners or the rest of the original cast
Brun has an important self realization; she too very much likes Hercules the cat.
Clinton wakes up on Roko's couch
Clinton, drink more water.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #100 on: 04 Nov 2020, 13:43 »

I would love to see that.  I'm definitely reading Brun as falling somewhere on the ace spectrum, which is kind of unfortunate, because all too often autistic characters are portrayed as asexual *because* they're autistic.  Jeph has shown enough that I'm perfectly happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it would still be nice to see Brun in a relationship like the one you describe.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #101 on: 04 Nov 2020, 16:14 »

I have to say I will be very surprised if Jeph mishandled that.

He and I do not have much direct interaction, but I am autistic and have seen nothing from him that suggests he'd have that kind of blind spot.

I can assure you I would note it if it turned out he did.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #102 on: 04 Nov 2020, 18:36 »

New comic.

The comics are quite amusing this week. It's like Jeph read the previous WCDT and decided to explain his reasoning (which might actually be the case, AFAIK).
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #103 on: 04 Nov 2020, 18:43 »

I love Brun's reaction to the threesome suggestion: "Blerg!"

Even tho I shipped it. Anyway...

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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #104 on: 04 Nov 2020, 19:25 »

Love the knee-jerk "Blegh"  :laugh: 
Mental imagery is a big thing with Brun, isn't it?
Wonder if she responds that way to other mental images? :
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #105 on: 04 Nov 2020, 19:40 »

Thank you, Brun, very cool.

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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #106 on: 04 Nov 2020, 20:10 »

Mmmmm, yeah no. I understand about complicated levels of attraction like emotional, intellectual attraction etc. Sure. But raw, physical attraction? That's chemical. As in, pheromones. It's either there or it isn't. Because science.

Sorry, just internal hormones for us humans. We don't produce sex pheromones.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #107 on: 04 Nov 2020, 21:26 »

I honestly see that type of affectionate voyeurism being more likely to emerge between Renee and Brun, if Renee could ever break free of mom-mode enough to relax. It just seems like Brun is happiest when she’s able to relax and be herself and it doesn’t seem like she’s experienced dating as a place where that happens.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #108 on: 04 Nov 2020, 21:33 »

It would simplify things if she were attracted to both of them. It would complicate things if she were attracted to one of them.

Not saying a poly relationship in that form is inherently bad, but I think it would make things even more uncertain in this specific storyline.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #109 on: 05 Nov 2020, 12:12 »

The comics are quite amusing this week. It's like Jeph read the previous WCDT and decided to explain his reasoning (which might actually be the case, AFAIK).

The alternative explanation would be that the WCDT has adapted to Jeph's style of storytelling over a decade of going over his every comic with a magnifying glass ...  :wink:
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #110 on: 05 Nov 2020, 16:41 »

Surely not 😁
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #111 on: 05 Nov 2020, 18:34 »

New comic up.

If a robot has only been in it's body a few years, do they need to be IDed for a bar? Or no?

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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #112 on: 05 Nov 2020, 18:40 »

Clearly a robot's human equivalent age (HEA) is determined algorithmically based on how much of their job involves bugs. This is why Melon isn't able to go to bars
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #113 on: 05 Nov 2020, 19:43 »

New comic.

The comics are quite amusing this week. It's like Jeph read the previous WCDT and decided to explain his reasoning (which might actually be the case, AFAIK).

Unless Jeph's attitude toward this forum has changed in the last few years, any in-comic reaction to it is more likely to be in the form of a ****-you than any kind of accommodation. The mods periodically assure us that Jeph has as little to do with the forum as possible. Given previous phases of it, and my own experiences with "discussion forums" at my old newspaper job, I understand completely.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #114 on: 05 Nov 2020, 20:11 »

Huh.

This comic seemed a bit... flat, to me. Not sure why. Guess I was hoping for something more to start off the weekend with?
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #115 on: 05 Nov 2020, 20:30 »

Huh.

This comic seemed a bit... flat, to me. Not sure why. Guess I was hoping for something more to start off the weekend with?

No cliffhanger?
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #116 on: 05 Nov 2020, 20:53 »

Yeah, that sounds reasonable. I've gotten used to those 😊
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #117 on: 05 Nov 2020, 23:00 »

New comic up.

If a robot has only been in it's body a few years, do they need to be IDed for a bar? Or no?
My guess is robots don't need to be ID'd at all. The reason there's an age limit on minors drinking is because it can damage brain development, lead to alcohol dependence, and cause early liver damage (various sources). Because AIs lack a human brain, don't use alcohol, and don't have livers, there's no need to restrict minimum Drinkr age.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #118 on: 05 Nov 2020, 23:25 »

Well, that's a traditional QC arc ender with Jeph drawing attention to the fact that no-one in real life delivers exposition or engages in wacky friendship hijinksTM over several minutes at work because there's a queue forming!

I've got to be honest here: I have not been enjoying QC as much as I used for for a while and, since this arc started, it's got a lot worse. The strip has felt like it's lost its momentum and that Jeph has been struggling to find a new focus since as far back as Faye and Bubbles getting together. Like a lot of writers, he's been able to find a few new ideas (most notably Roko's dysphoria and May's more overtly political body issues but there are other interesting ones too). However, for some reason has not been able to really work with them consistently or, perhaps, just doesn't have the heart to make any of his characters suffer through it for too long.

Now we have this characterisation- and chemistry-free plastic and one-dimensional Elliot/Clinton ship that is so arbitrary that Jeph had to have the characters stand on the panel and explain to the readers in exposition style why everything we thought we'd seen them think and feel was wrong and do so for two weeks.

So, yeah... I guess what I'm saying is that I'm going to give the strip until the next time my Patreon renews and, if things don't really improve, I'll probably quit. Sorry about that.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #119 on: 05 Nov 2020, 23:53 »

2020's been one hell of a decade packed into a single year. It could be that taking its toll on Jeph. Everybody's exhausted in North America. Some more than others. The bar's been set pretty low, so here's hoping 2021 can clear it and be at least marginally better if not substantially so.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #120 on: 06 Nov 2020, 00:36 »

Like with every artist, the quality of the art waxes and wanes over time. 'Quality', of course, being highly subjective. What appeals to one person doesn't necessarily work for someone else.

And yes, 2020 has been one <bleep> of a year. I can imagine that taking its toll on Jeph.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #121 on: 06 Nov 2020, 02:54 »

Now we have this characterisation- and chemistry-free plastic and one-dimensional Elliot/Clinton ship that is so arbitrary that Jeph had to have the characters stand on the panel and explain to the readers in exposition style why everything we thought we'd seen them think and feel was wrong and do so for two weeks.

This is basically exactly how I feel about this, thanks for articulating it.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #122 on: 06 Nov 2020, 03:05 »

just gonna... slide back in here and add a voice for continuing to love the arc. I think bringing back the burrito place employees is adorable and made me laugh. I can just picture the one first in line with lit-up eyes, haha.

Brun is my hero. I adore her and want more. And the exposition? Sure, maybe irl people would be more likely to communicate such text walls in written form. But I am enthralled and entertained and *inspired* by the possibility of so much great spoken communication between friends. (the unfortunate timing of said conversation here being, of course, excellent intentional comedy.) lovin it <3
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #123 on: 06 Nov 2020, 10:30 »

Elliot takes consideration to a fault.

Elliot/Clinton is a setup to show that each is open to a relationship. Just not with each other. (Wonder how Roko's bread-making apprenticeship is going.)

We need a better nickname for tall blue and snarky.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #124 on: 06 Nov 2020, 10:31 »

Elliot takes consideration to a fault.

We need a better nickname for tall blue and snarky.

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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #125 on: 06 Nov 2020, 11:26 »

Elliot takes consideration to a fault.

We need a better nickname for tall blue and snarky.

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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #126 on: 07 Nov 2020, 04:19 »

just gonna... slide back in here and add a voice for continuing to love the arc. I think bringing back the burrito place employees is adorable and made me laugh. I can just picture the one first in line with lit-up eyes, haha.

Brun is my hero. I adore her and want more. And the exposition? Sure, maybe irl people would be more likely to communicate such text walls in written form. But I am enthralled and entertained and *inspired* by the possibility of so much great spoken communication between friends. (the unfortunate timing of said conversation here being, of course, excellent intentional comedy.) lovin it <3
You're not alone! I'm also enjoying this arc and I adore Brun too. It seems like there are quite a lot of people who haven't been enjoying it, so it's nice to hear from someone who is.   :-D

Personally I don't really get the complaints about characterization. Other people obviously have different opinions and that's cool, but neither Elliot nor Clinton have seemed out of character to me.   

I hope we get names for the burrito shop people soon. They've being having an increasing number of cameos lately and I'm wondering if perhaps the burrito shop might be the next location to become a regular part of the comic.
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Re: WCDT 4386-4390 (Nov 2nd - Nov 6th, 2020)
« Reply #127 on: 09 Nov 2020, 07:59 »

I'm not seeing Clinton and Elliot acting chemistry-less or plastic. They seem the same to me as any other pair of people in this comic that has flirted with, self-sabotaged in front of, etc. each other, and talking things out with a friend is a time-honored QC tradition that ought to be common practice everywhere. They're also almost always really articulate about what they're feeling.
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