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WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« on: 06 Nov 2022, 18:19 »

No poll, sorry. Don't have the headspace to think of a decent question.


Re. today's comic: oh, Elliot. This kind of thinking turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy if you're not careful.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #1 on: 06 Nov 2022, 18:25 »

...sooo... I feel like Elliot might be the tiniest bit insecure.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #2 on: 06 Nov 2022, 21:14 »

...sooo... I feel like Elliot might be the tiniest bit insecure.

Just a bit.

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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #3 on: 06 Nov 2022, 21:21 »

You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."

(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #4 on: 06 Nov 2022, 21:38 »

They're not just NB, they're literally a plural
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #5 on: 06 Nov 2022, 22:11 »

In Elliot's defence, Roko actually lives in that building. She's easier to track down for the keys.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #6 on: 06 Nov 2022, 22:25 »

Didn't Yay get a recharging cubicle in the building?
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #7 on: 06 Nov 2022, 22:29 »

Newspost!!!  :-o

As someone who doesn't touch twitter and most media sites I'm glad to see a newspost again, since I wouldn't keep up with the man otherwise.

Elon Musk is a horrible human being and the world would be better off without him.

Elliot needs chill, but he hooked up with Clinton the king of Nochill so... yeah.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #8 on: 06 Nov 2022, 22:33 »

In Elliot's defence, Roko actually lives in that building. She's easier to track down for the keys.

Yeah but Elliot needs only to speak aloud, his key quandary, and an instance of Yay will be dispatched to deliver said keys whenever and wherever Elliot needs them. Yay also rents a charging booth in the building, and Roko's closet. Yay is everywhere, all the time, with all the things.

That being said, Elliot's reaction to confronting relationship anxiety amuses me because one of his other jobs is literally confronting rowdy people. Can't punch fear in the face, poor guy doesn't know how to deal; in this relationship, Clinton is the stronger of the two, for once.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #9 on: 07 Nov 2022, 01:25 »

Wow, Elliot! Just... wow! Talk about adding 2+2 to get the square root of 8 or something.

I'm actually as clueless as Yay as to what triggered this. However, this is as much as a red flag as the first time Dora's insecurity made her blow her top at Marten. Barring an Author's Fiat, I don't see this relationship lasting, especially if Clinton is offered a good gig in Cubetown.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #10 on: 07 Nov 2022, 02:37 »

You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."

(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)

Got confused for a minute there because I look up most passages in CJB.
Looks like VOICE is one of the very few other English translations that doesn't use a variation of "for we are many".

BTW, looks like the drect translation to English[1] is "there are so many of us".

[1] The CJB is translated directly from Hebrew and Ancient Greek to Modern English primarily for Messianic Jews.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #11 on: 07 Nov 2022, 05:19 »

Aw, Elliot.

Nice to see a longer newspost. Glad Jeph is doing well. I'm really excited for Cubetown. Elon Musk sucks eggs.

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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #12 on: 07 Nov 2022, 06:10 »

You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."

(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)

Got confused for a minute there because I look up most passages in CJB.
Looks like VOICE is one of the very few other English translations that doesn't use a variation of "for we are many".

BTW, looks like the drect translation to English[1] is "there are so many of us".

[1] The CJB is translated directly from Hebrew and Ancient Greek to Modern English primarily for Messianic Jews.

The NAB I grew up with, for us plastic pads, does the same, but it still says "I am legion," so... kind of implied.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #13 on: 07 Nov 2022, 06:31 »

While I love the two of them together, Elliot has so much insecurity in relationships.
I'm unsure that Clinton has the basic social skills to reassure him.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #14 on: 07 Nov 2022, 07:13 »

While I love the two of them together, Elliot has so much insecurity in relationships.
I'm unsure that Clinton has the basic social skills to reassure him.

Elliot's insecurity is painful to witness. I wonder if we will get more of a backstory about him to get a better idea of underlying reasons (if any).

Although, TBH, as a big (very tall) and insecure guy myself, it may simply just be him always having been a huge guy. Many people don't understand it, but many tall guys are very insecure.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #15 on: 07 Nov 2022, 07:22 »

Newspost!!!  :-o

As someone who doesn't touch twitter and most media sites I'm glad to see a newspost again, since I wouldn't keep up with the man otherwise.

Elon Musk is a horrible human being and the world would be better off without him.

Elliot needs chill, but he hooked up with Clinton the king of Nochill so... yeah.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that the world would be better off without Musk, but the world would definitely be better off without Twitter in Musk's hands, or actually without Twitter entirely.

While Musk seems to suffer from the typical megalomaniac issues you might expect, and he seems to think he is a messiah or something, I can't help but appreciate that he pretty much singlehandedly has initiated a serious move away from fossil fuels within the car industry.
Yes, the way he does everything is despiccable, especially how he treats employees, how he flaunts rules and regulations where he wants, and how he generally wants to bend the world to his view and wishes, but nonetheless he still also displays a certain visionary mind. They're not mutually exclusive, unfortunately...

Edit: long way of saying that at some point his ideas may have had some real merit, but that he has outlived his purpose and seems to increasingly have fallen prey to his own desire for self-aggrandisement.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #16 on: 07 Nov 2022, 07:26 »

Looking at the newspost, nice to see Elon Musk is still committed to showing how much he hates freedom of speech.  :P

More unironically, I'm glad Jeph is taking the deletion of his Twitter account in good humour.  :)
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« Reply #17 on: 07 Nov 2022, 08:24 »

Now I want Yay to be my password manager.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #18 on: 07 Nov 2022, 12:13 »

Didn't Yay get a recharging cubicle in the building?


You're right! Forgot about that.
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« Reply #19 on: 07 Nov 2022, 12:17 »

Now I want Yay to be my password manager.
Yay already knows all your passwords.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #20 on: 07 Nov 2022, 12:29 »

Good, because I don’t.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #21 on: 07 Nov 2022, 15:03 »

With Yay around, you don't even need passwords. They can login to your accounts just by looking sternly at your computer screen.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #22 on: 07 Nov 2022, 17:39 »

Maybe I can get Yay to log into my PayPal account. It now demands a mobile phone number (which I do not have) and will not accept the landline number I used to create the account years ago.

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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #23 on: 07 Nov 2022, 18:19 »

New comic.

Clinton has some very specific pillow talk.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #24 on: 07 Nov 2022, 18:34 »

...honestly, I have to wonder if Clinton would mind if Elliot spent the night with Renee, as long as they kept their trousers on.  (Of course, whether Renee would mind is another story.)
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #25 on: 07 Nov 2022, 18:51 »

Poor Renee. *lol*

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« Reply #26 on: 07 Nov 2022, 20:40 »

IMO, as a general rule, Renee should probably just assume "all of it".
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« Reply #27 on: 08 Nov 2022, 01:42 »

THAT is NOT how quantuum physics works. Unsurprisingly, I guess.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #28 on: 08 Nov 2022, 02:47 »

I dated someone like Elliot once. It was exhausting. It didn’t last.  It’s one thing to reassure someone from time to time, we all have our insecure moments, but when it’s as easy to trigger as Elliot’s. Yikes.  Good thing for him this is a comic and I don’t see Jeph breaking them up.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #29 on: 08 Nov 2022, 05:14 »

I assume it will follow the usual pattern of such mini dramas.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #30 on: 08 Nov 2022, 07:07 »

Maybe Clinton SHOULD break up with Elliot, yikes.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #31 on: 08 Nov 2022, 07:31 »

Elliot really reminds me of a big dog.

Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention.  Which is wonderful when you're a person who likes to give a lot of attention.

I just realized that I'm calling Elliot an Extrovert.
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« Reply #32 on: 08 Nov 2022, 12:22 »

Maybe Clinton SHOULD break up with Elliot, yikes.

i know right it's hard to deal with people who overreact...
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #33 on: 08 Nov 2022, 16:53 »

Silly Elliot, even if Clinton got into cubetown what makes you think you can't get a baker job there? all those mad science types still need to eat
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #34 on: 08 Nov 2022, 18:07 »


Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention. 

I respectfully but vehemently disagree with this assertion.
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« Reply #35 on: 08 Nov 2022, 18:16 »

New comic!

NOT HELPFUL, YAY. *lol*

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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #36 on: 08 Nov 2022, 18:27 »

Yay might actually be a good person to talk to Elliot about it. They can approach it calmly and coolly, which could encourage Elliot not to freak out.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #37 on: 08 Nov 2022, 18:47 »

Silly Elliot, even if Clinton got into cubetown what makes you think you can't get a baker job there? all those mad science types still need to eat
Depends on the ratio of AIs to humans in Cubetown. If there aren't many humans, the scope for that sort of job will be small.
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« Reply #38 on: 08 Nov 2022, 19:25 »

Depends on the ratio of AIs to humans in Cubetown. If there aren't many humans, the scope for that sort of job will be small.

We've seen at least one human there, plus they hire humans so...

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« Reply #39 on: 09 Nov 2022, 02:03 »

Yay might actually be a good person to talk to Elliot about it. They can approach it calmly and coolly, which could encourage Elliot not to freak out.

More importantly, Yay is Elliott's sort-of-friend and thus can approach this as a trusted third person rather than a nosy stranger. "We think that you['re about to blow this one, Elliot."

FWIW, Elliot's anxiety and how it is stopping him from seeking help even though he is aware it is self-sabotaging his relationships reminds me of Dora and her paranoia. Remember that Tai had to draw a line in the sand and threaten to leave if she didn't seek help. Will history repeat itself? If Elliot won't seek help and just insist that a relationship is conditional on Clinton just dealing with his issues from now on then Clinton will leave and have had a lucky escape.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #40 on: 09 Nov 2022, 02:41 »


Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention. 

I respectfully but vehemently disagree with this assertion.

They may not be the same, but they often coincide. And relationships can double that.
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« Reply #41 on: 09 Nov 2022, 03:20 »

Also questionable.
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #42 on: 09 Nov 2022, 16:35 »

Just going by several friends who are perfectly aware that their brains are being assholes to themselves, it still doesn't stop the feeling and thoughts from happening, so hopefully they find a process to mutually deal with it in a constructive way. I know I'd find it very difficult to be in Clinton's situation because while I'm generally really chill and relaxed about interactions with people, having my sincerity questioned is a HUGE trigger for the rare times I get genuinely angry, and that kind of combination is ripe for permanently burning bridges on both sides.
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« Reply #43 on: 09 Nov 2022, 18:25 »

New comic.

Called it! Yay, the friendly neighborhood couples' counselor, is on the case.
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« Reply #44 on: 09 Nov 2022, 18:50 »

Ah, Yay. Still learning how humans work... *lol*

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« Reply #45 on: 09 Nov 2022, 18:51 »

Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.

No wait I was being sarcastic---

uhoh...
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« Reply #46 on: 09 Nov 2022, 21:07 »

Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.

No wait I was being sarcastic---

uhoh...

They are very smart (just ask them), that means that they will easily be able to solve this problem!
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« Reply #47 on: 09 Nov 2022, 22:10 »

Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.

No wait I was being sarcastic---

uhoh...

They are very smart (just ask them), that means that they will easily be able to solve this problem!


 - Until they finally realize that this is a human issue - that is, inherently insoluble and incomprehensible...


(What?! That's how it works, isn't it?)  :roll:
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Re: WCDT Nov 7th - Nov 11th (4911-4915)
« Reply #48 on: 09 Nov 2022, 22:57 »

This will end well. Very well indeed.
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« Reply #49 on: 09 Nov 2022, 23:04 »

It's too bad the obvious hubris means Yay is bound to hit a wall and find out they really can't just fix the whole situation "just like that," because they could have been the perfect entity for Elliot to talk this out with.

And as a very cuddly, affectionate introvert who's very into her alone time and isn't a fan of the pressure of "a lot of attention," citation needed on the frequency of the whole cuddly = needy thing. The people I've met who have way too many requirements for how often and in what ways they want the people in their lives to pay attention to them have not been what I'd call overtly affectionate.
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