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[24_hour_revenge_therapy]

alright, that's it.  look, i was simply trying, in a friendly way, to explain straightedge to some people who may not have understood it.  most of you got that, and have been friendly.  to the rest of you, well, it's sad that you can't seem to just accept people for their values.  and i'm not talking about the hardline straightedge kids who try and force their opinions down your throat.  i'm talking about kids like me, who are edge, and proud, but more than happy to live their lives and let you live yours.  grow up.

again, to most everyone else, you were very nice.  it's just a few people who ruined it for me.  but, then, this is the internet.  not sure why i thought having an intelligent, respectful conversation was possible in the first place.  oh well.

consider this thread dead.  i'm done with it.  move on.

[Skibas_clavicle]

Aw, sorry about the lack of acceptance dude.

I know it's hard being straightedge, and I admire people who are, as long as they aren't blatantly knocking my beer out of my hand. Keep doign what you're doing and don't let anyone tell you it's stupid.

[muffy]

^ Seconded...
Also, don't fear any more abuse,  I think the board's gone back to mocking emo kiddies again

[johnnylaw]

I used to be straightedge (five years) until I realized that it's really not much more than a fraternity without the drinking and sex.

Fraternity - Indentified by three (or two) letters.  Comprised of testosterone fueled alpha-males shotgunning cheap beer and doling out wedgies to campus math nerds.

Straightedge - Indentified by three letters.  Comprised of testosterone fueled alpha-males doing windmills in the pit and doling out wedgies to the smoking, drinking, meat eating nerds.

If you can do it without the macho-male posturing, more power to you.

ps.  Sorry, I don't have an X watch anymore...

[thehoopiestfrood]

All generalising ever is stupid. Or something to that effect.

Just do what you feel right and don't give other people grief for what they're doing (within reason of course - stabbing and general nastyness excluded). It goes both ways and there's just no need for it.

[fin]

i usually liken it to buddism.  not that they really have anything in common.

damn that got me thinking. while i dabbled with the idea of being sXe for an entire ten minutes, i considered buddism, even if somehwhat shallowly for a good while longer (before i ever knew what straight edge was).

i can see were you are coming from, in that budhism and straightedge are similar although very different. from what little i know about budhism i think it is a far more personal voyage than the group mentaily of sxe and therefore, unlike being straight edge it is something which you youreself belive in and inculde yourself in, whereas being straight edge is defined by the vaules of the group being a buddist is defined by the values of the  individaul's beliefs. IMO this is a very important distinction.

usual unimformed and drunken disclamiers apply. my interprtetation of budhism may be slightly or very shiny and blinkered. correct me.

[Patatat]

Why isn't this thread dead yet...

Its pretty obvious it sucks.

[nickyandthefuture]

from what little i know about budhism i think it is a far more personal voyage

Shouldn't that be impersonal voyage?

Man, I read this thread, but I still don't understand what straight edge actually means.  I mean, I don't do any of the stuff that straight edge people explicitly don't do, but when you define a culture purely in negative terms, it's either completely open to interpretation or the whole thing is just a euphemism for some cliquishness that nobody wants to actually point out.  My grandpa doesn't smoke crack; is he straight edge?

[jeph]

Why isn't this thread dead yet...

Its pretty obvious it sucks.

Agreed.