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« on: 06 Jun 2005, 01:35 »

Man I hope that this isn't too much of a newbie topic, because I don't know whether it's a regularly ok thing for users to kind of hog a topic all to their own. But anyway. I'd like to listen/check out new music, stuff that you'd think I'd probably like but are quite different from what I am used to.

Just for reference, here's my audioscrobbler --> http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/coonstar/

And this is my top 20 albums list (in no particular order)

The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
The Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
The Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
Pearl Jam - Ten
Stars - Set Yourself On Fire
The Futureheads - The Futureheads
The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
Morrissey - You are the Quarry
Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
The Clash - London Callng
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Of Montreal - Satanic Panic in the Attic
Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
Garbage - Beautiful Garbage
The Shins - Chutes too Narrow
David Bowie - Hunky Dory
The New Pornographers - Electric Version

Please recommend me albums/artists that I would still most likely enjoy but are quite different, for I feel the need to expand my musical horizons. Also just for kicks, recommend me some classic big-band jazz stuff? =D
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« Reply #1 on: 06 Jun 2005, 01:43 »

Since you're liking the Futureheads I'd recommend checking out This Ain't Vegas on Jealous records. They're also from Sunderland so you get those cool accents, and play some great punky indie music.

The Minutemen's 'Double Nickels On The Dime' album is a classic, everyone should own it (or at least give it a listen).

Mission of Burma - 'Signals, Calls and Marches'. Easily a contender for the best indie rock album of all time.

Give them a go. Based on your top albums I'd say there's a decent chance you'll like them, but they're also a bit of a departure from that stuff.
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« Reply #2 on: 06 Jun 2005, 02:02 »

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Also just for kicks, recommend me some classic big-band jazz stuff? =D


Can do.  Oh baby, I can so do that.

Start with Count Basie.  All big-band explorations should start with Count Basie.  There are two classic Basie periods: the '30s (the "Old Testament" band) and the '50s (the "New Testament" band).  From the '50s, two absolutely essential albums are The Complete Atomic Basie (and yes, it has a big mushroom cloud on the cover) and Count Basie Swings, Joe Williams Sings.  From the earlier band, it actually pre-dated albums so you're going to have to go with a compilation.  I don't know what your budget is, but there are two great multi-disc compilations out there: The Original American Decca Recordings (also sometimes known as the Complete Decca Recordings) and America's Number One Band: the Columbia Years.  These are both well-worth having, although if they're a bit too expensive for you there will also be numerous single-disc collections.

That's your real hard-hitting swing stuff.  For something a bit different, a bit more sophisticated, there's Duke Ellington.  Another multi-disc compilation which is absolutely essential at some point in your life is Never No Lament.  This is just about as good as a jazz orchestra can get.  Again, there should be one or more "best of" single-disc compilations of this music.  For later Ellington, a classic album is The Far East Suite.

A few other names from the classic swing years to look out for: Fletcher Henderson, Artie Shaw, Benny Goodman (of course - try the famous Carnegie Hall concert from 1938), Woody Herman (1963 is a terrific album, and I think it's a limited release so you should snap it up quickly if you're interested) . . . Anyway, there's a few ideas for you.

Definitely start with one or both of those two later Basie albums I mentioned first, though.  Basie is the man.
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« Reply #3 on: 06 Jun 2005, 04:21 »

As jeph recommends already I will repeat here, AC Newman's newish cd, mr person from new pornographers
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« Reply #4 on: 06 Jun 2005, 06:55 »

The Residents. I mean, how can you not love guys who write songs like Ingrid's Oily Tongue, Lizard Lady, Krafty Cheese, Bach is Dead, Elvis and His Boss, Baby Skeletons and Dogs, Stuffed Genitals and the Next Song are Cut, Jimi Hendrix Dildo and The Mad Sawmill of Copenhagen Germany? Possibly the weirdest band that actually has a tune. (I'm looking at you, TMV.) I reccomend picking up either their latest work (Animal Lover) or some of their early stuff (Meet The Residents, Not Available, Duck Stab/Buster and Glen, Eskimo, Commercial Album, Third Reich N' Roll)
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« Reply #5 on: 06 Jun 2005, 07:29 »

so, Kai... do you like the residents at all?
no?
yeah i didn't think so.


seriously, are you like in the band?
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« Reply #6 on: 06 Jun 2005, 08:10 »

Maybe. I mean, nobody knows exactly who they are, they wear THESE:




 all the time.



...Residents.
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« Reply #7 on: 06 Jun 2005, 08:22 »

In keeping with my character as well:



Skyclad!

Seriously, I still see no reason why all you indie types shouldn't like them. They're light (if you avoid the first two-three albums), they're lyrically driven, they have FIDDLE! I mean, COME ON PEOPLE. Have you ever heard a fiddle vs. guitar duelling solo? You haven't lived! They sing about everything, from love, to war, to nazi vampires.

Nazi vampires = MEGA-cool.
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« Reply #8 on: 06 Jun 2005, 08:23 »

From the belted vocals and noisy guitar catagory
Shellac- At Action Park
Naked Raygun-Basement Screams (this is their only album i certify as cool)
Jawbreaker-24 Hour Revenge Therapy
Fugazi-Red Medicine
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« Reply #9 on: 06 Jun 2005, 09:38 »

The Decemberists!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: 06 Jun 2005, 10:11 »

i'll second the jawbreaker recommendation

also:
built to spill - perfect from now on
seam - are you driving me crazy


blanking at work.  those are good though.
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« Reply #11 on: 06 Jun 2005, 11:08 »

with the Modest Mouse on your list I'd also go with Built To Spill, and Mission of Burma. As far as the Big-Band stuff goes, Inlander made every good reccomendation ever. Hopefully we can convince you to try some straight ahead, cool, fusion and latin styles of jazz.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 Jun 2005, 12:32 »

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Man I hope that this isn't too much of a newbie topic, because I don't know whether it's a regularly ok thing for users to kind of hog a topic all to their own. But anyway. I'd like to listen/check out new music, stuff that you'd think I'd probably like but are quite different from what I am used to.

Just for reference, here's my audioscrobbler --> http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/coonstar/

And this is my top 20 albums list (in no particular order)

The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
The Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
The Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
Pearl Jam - Ten
Stars - Set Yourself On Fire
The Futureheads - The Futureheads
The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
Morrissey - You are the Quarry
Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
The Clash - London Callng
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Of Montreal - Satanic Panic in the Attic
Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
Garbage - Beautiful Garbage
The Shins - Chutes too Narrow
David Bowie - Hunky Dory
The New Pornographers - Electric Version

Please recommend me albums/artists that I would still most likely enjoy but are quite different, for I feel the need to expand my musical horizons. Also just for kicks, recommend me some classic big-band jazz stuff? =D


*ignores first 5*

I love you. So much.

With your Modest Mouse love, check out Keep it Like a Secret/Perfect From Now On by Built to Spill and Surfer Rosa/Doolittle by The Pixies.
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« Reply #13 on: 06 Jun 2005, 12:45 »

maybe kyuss? i don't know if everyone who likes QOTSA likes kyuss too, but i do.
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« Reply #14 on: 06 Jun 2005, 12:48 »

how about some XTC?  that would be working backward from the futureheads

then again, my boyfriend and his best friend wholly acknowledge their dorkhood for loving the XTC so much.
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« Reply #15 on: 06 Jun 2005, 12:56 »

Merkava, you dont like Stars?

I love em'
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« Reply #16 on: 06 Jun 2005, 14:03 »

I just haven't heard them. I want to check them out, though. I hope Rhapsody has it for streaming. ;D

The Smashing Pumpkins, I don't like.
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« Reply #17 on: 06 Jun 2005, 14:05 »

Agreed, Let us burn that band
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« Reply #18 on: 06 Jun 2005, 15:24 »

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then again, my boyfriend and his best friend wholly acknowledge their dorkhood for loving the XTC so much.


X.T.C. love = dorkhood?  BLASPHEMY!!
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« Reply #19 on: 06 Jun 2005, 15:45 »

Psssh, the Smashing Pumpkins represent some of the most decent shit on that kist.

Speaking of Skyclad, if you like the Pumpkins and can download stuff, get 'Fainting by Numbers', 'You Lost My Memory' or 'Jumping My Shadow' by the 'Clad if you have a p2p proggy, you'll appreciate their angsty, bitter (but sarcistically hopeful) side. I used to quite like the pumpkins 'back in the day', some songs especially.

Thinking of more suggestions within your field, and within the field of stuff that's actually good, Danzig, Nightingale, The Sisters of Mercy (everyone should like them anywar), Killing Miranda, Orange Goblin (another band that deserves universal love), and maybe some punk? Punk is cool.

Yeah, and SKYCLAD!!!!"
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« Reply #20 on: 06 Jun 2005, 15:51 »

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« Reply #21 on: 06 Jun 2005, 15:58 »

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Yeah, and SKYCLAD!!!!"



Just to keep up..


Residents!
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« Reply #22 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:15 »

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Psssh, the Smashing Pumpkins represent some of the most decent shit on that kist.




That's a good one. Guess I caught you drunk again. ;D

And I'm listening to The Residents.

*yaaaaaaaaaaaawn*

And to The Decemberists

*much bigger yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn*
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« Reply #23 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:18 »

Mock not my spelling mistakes, I've only had a few. That's why the posts have a coherent objective, if not coherent fingering.
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« Reply #24 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:19 »

Uh, actually, I wasn't commenting on your spelling.
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« Reply #25 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:21 »

What were you mocking then? The Pumpkins are way better than most of that stuff, apart from, like, Bowie and maybe The Smiths.
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« Reply #26 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:38 »

Everyone, thanks for the recommendations so far- I shall attempt to look into all of them =D Aww shucks no hating on the Pumpkins in this topic! =P They're just that one band that I am dedicated to, because they have so much lasting value, and they were kind of my gateway band into better music. Even if you don't like their music, you can't deny that they have the skills.

Yeah I already listen to the Decemberists =D The Mariner's Revenge Song = RULE

Honestly, I kinda don't like the Pixies >_> I've listened to Surfer Rosa, Doolittle, and the Death to the Pixies greatest hits- nothing just really grabbed me, sorry o_o //music taste has no cred.

This is almost embarassing but, who wants to recommend me some power metal? =P
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« Reply #27 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:41 »

Khar does. But I'll throw Manowar and Dragonforce into the ring... and then probably get told they're not power by Khar in a minute. But they're bloody good.
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« Reply #28 on: 06 Jun 2005, 16:45 »

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And I'm listening to The Residents.

*yaaaaaaaaaaaawn*



What by The Residents? Some of their stuff is not nearly as good.
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« Reply #29 on: 06 Jun 2005, 17:26 »

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This is almost embarassing but, who wants to recommend me some power metal? =P


Ahem:

Dragonforce, Domine, Avantasia, Wuthering Heights, Tad Morose, Rhapsody, Edguy, Turisas, Morgana LaFey, Angra, Dream Evil, Falconer, Sonata Arctica, Demons and Wizards, Secret Sphere, Primal Fear. For cheesy as crap but very cool stuff, Ninja Magic and Winterlong. Also, Therion's latest twin album, Sirius B in particular, are pretty power, and pretty damn cool too. Operatic metal for the win!

Heavy Metal that is similiar in theme: Manowar, 3 Inches of Blood, Hammerfall, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest (if you HAVEN'T heard those two DO SO NOW), Viking Skull, Iced Earth I suppose.

If you start liking that kind of stuff, some good Battle and Viking Metal might also be in order: Ensiferum, Later Bal-Sagoth and Bathory's Viking albums: Hammerheart, Blood on Ice and the Nordland albums in particular, though they all rock.

Hell, just download these tracks. This was a CD that came with an issue of Metal Hammer a few months ago and almost single-handedly restored my faith in the metal press:

Judas Priest - Battle Hymn
Judas Priest - All Guns Blazing
Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm
Turisas  - Battle Metal
Dream Evil - The Book of Heavy Metal
Viking Skull - Beer, Drugs and Bitches
3 Inches of Blood - Deadly Sinners
Hammerfall - Riders of the Storm
Primal Fear - Heart of a Brave
Sonata Arctica - Ain't Your Fairytale
Finntroll - Fiskarens Fiende
Ensiferum - Lai Lai Hei
Angra - Spread the Fire
Rage - Flesh and Blood
Rhapsody - Unholy Warcry
Iced Earth - Declaration Day

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AND SKYCLAD!
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« Reply #30 on: 06 Jun 2005, 21:55 »

*cough*  I wouldn't call it power metal, but I've found Opeth to be a very solid, well balanced, and musically elegant introduction into the metal genre.  I'm not big on metal myself, so I can recommend it to someone just getting into the genre with confidence that it will probably appeal to you if you approach it with an open mind, because it did to me.  

Hmmm...  I'm a bit curious if you enjoy grunge-era music?  I see Pearl Jam is in your list.
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« Reply #31 on: 06 Jun 2005, 22:32 »

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*cough*  I wouldn't call it power metal, but I've found Opeth to be a very solid, well balanced, and musically elegant introduction into the metal genre.  I'm not big on metal myself, so I can recommend it to someone just getting into the genre with confidence that it will probably appeal to you if you approach it with an open mind, because it did to me.  

Hmmm...  I'm a bit curious if you enjoy grunge-era music?  I see Pearl Jam is in your list.


Nah I'm not really into grunge. I think Ten is the only grunge album I respect and enjoy.

Hmm which Opeth albums should I specifically check out? I have a few friends who listen to Opeth but the stuff they've shown me I never got into. What's their most accessible album?
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« Reply #32 on: 07 Jun 2005, 04:40 »

The most accessible...probably Damnation. But that's an all soft 70's Prog Rock style album and not like the rest of their stuff.
Probably Blackwater Park I guess for a first time listener.

And get listening to that Power Metal as well, it's good stuff. Good job there are some Metalheads around for such things you know.
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« Reply #33 on: 07 Jun 2005, 05:18 »

quick question: How important is it to you that bands sing in english?

Initially, I'd probably recommend Muse based on what you have on your list, but looking at your Audioscrobbler I see Sondre Lerche coming up in your top 20.  I'd check out The Delgados; you might like them.
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« Reply #34 on: 07 Jun 2005, 05:36 »

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The Smashing Pumpkins, I don't like.



I have to agree with all the anti-smashing pumpkins sentiment .... but i think it's my hatred of billy corgan's whiny voice; perhaps if they had another singer i might like them (and they possibly might even sound half decent) and being on topic....

Try some Hot Hot Heat!
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« Reply #35 on: 07 Jun 2005, 07:39 »

So... wait... Billy Corgan is too whiny, but Hot Hot Heat is okay?
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« Reply #36 on: 07 Jun 2005, 08:45 »

Smoke or Fire!
The Unseen!
The Hold Steady!

For The Win!*

*For The Win is an expression, not a band.

Seriously though, the new Smoke Or Fire album "Above The City" is probably the most awesome thing I've heard in a month. Nevermind that its on Fat Wreck.
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« Reply #37 on: 07 Jun 2005, 13:02 »

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So... wait... Billy Corgan is too whiny, but Hot Hot Heat is okay?


Guess you're not a Cure fan, eh? :P

At least HHH writes great songs.
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« Reply #38 on: 07 Jun 2005, 13:16 »

*Listens to some Hot Hot Heat sound samples on Amazon*

And yeah, the Smashing Pumpkins!
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« Reply #39 on: 07 Jun 2005, 13:20 »

You don't count. :P

It's not that I hate the Smashing Pumpkins, it's just that I've never found a single song that I liked by them and that the sound just annoys me.

I'm all for messy distortion, but when you run into something like Yo La Tengo or the Pumpkins, well, then you annoy me. ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 07 Jun 2005, 13:30 »

I'd like to add Blind Guardian to Khar's list of power metal bands.
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« Reply #41 on: 07 Jun 2005, 13:32 »

^ Whoa, I left them off?

So I did! And they're one of the most obvious ones.
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« Reply #42 on: 07 Jun 2005, 16:51 »

hm, the smashing pumpkins...

i reccomend wolf eyes. or merzbow. or both.
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« Reply #43 on: 07 Jun 2005, 16:57 »

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So... wait... Billy Corgan is too whiny, but Hot Hot Heat is okay?

 
Hey hot hot heat is like typical funky pop singing not like billy corgans voice 'ttttttttttttttttttttwwwwwwoooooooooooonaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiight' and i'm talking about the actual sound of the vocals and not lyrics ............. i dunno i just have a very personal and irrational fear of the sound of his voice
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« Reply #44 on: 07 Jun 2005, 17:22 »

Oh don't misunderstand me on this one. I've nothing against Hot Hot Heat or The Cure. And, yes I do also like Smashing Pumpkins.

I just can't see not like Billy Corgan's voice but loving the dude from Hot Hot Heat.
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« Reply #45 on: 07 Jun 2005, 17:27 »

Well I do and it's not just me ..... I know other people who find Billy Corgan's voice irritating but ahhh it doesn't matter I guess it's whatever floats your boat....
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« Reply #46 on: 07 Jun 2005, 17:35 »

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hm, the smashing pumpkins...

i reccomend wolf eyes. or merzbow. or both.


Actually, and I'm not being daft with this, but Wolf Eyes can be pretty accessible so that's not too bad a recommendation. Merzbow... well, he's pretty patchy isn't he?

I'm going to add Arab Strap to the recommendations. Depressing indie filth from Scotland, and rather damn fine.
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« Reply #47 on: 07 Jun 2005, 17:43 »

Hmm, Billy Corgan's voice wasn't originally insanely whiny. Siamese Dream was practically whine-free except for Disarm (which is a great song), but when Mellon Collie hit - the whine took over. Adore the whine was completely minimalized (and a very pretty and soft album it is), but it returned with Machina.  Hee. Yeah I understand that Corgan's vocals aren't just for some people, but it doesn't mean that the band is terrible. But for some strange reason, I feel that Corgan's vocals are absolutely perfect with the Pumpkin's style. I can't imagine another vocalist taking over and singing all those different kinds of Pumpkin songs, no matter how good of a vocalist they are- and still have the same impact.

Yeah I already listen to Hot Hot Heat, heck I went to their show a month or so ago. I went through a quick Muse phase last year when Absolution was first released- listened to all their albums except for the live one constantly, but after a few months I just grew tired of them and just couldn't get back into them again.

I've heard Damnation by Opeth before, I didn't get into it. Hmm, another album?

Okay, I'm just about to listen to some Minutemen right now =D
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« Reply #48 on: 07 Jun 2005, 19:00 »

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Oh don't misunderstand me on this one. I've nothing against Hot Hot Heat or The Cure. And, yes I do also like Smashing Pumpkins.

I just can't see not like Billy Corgan's voice but loving the dude from Hot Hot Heat.


I see. For me, Corgan's voice is fine. It's just the rest I don't like. Mabe I need to listen to them again or something, as my musical tastes have changed a bit. Can you believe I didn't like The Pixies a while ago? And that I actually LIKED Yo La Tengo!? O_O
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« Reply #49 on: 07 Jun 2005, 19:05 »

im gonna suggest ratatat, as everybody loves ratatat

in fact... gimme a minute

here is their entire album, dont tell anyone though


also, my current obsession is metric, i personally thinkg old world underground is a masterpiece, you should check it out
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