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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #100 on: 01 Mar 2008, 09:31 »

I guess since we're not axing this thread, I might as well contribute.

NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer has probably the best writing I've seen in an RPG after the Bioware games.
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 rocked, and their expansions (still haven't played Icewind Dale or Planescape)
The past two Elder Scrolls installments, obviously
FFXII was fun while I had it
You gotta play Planescape, man.  If you want pure story and a dynamic character, it's tops.  Icewind Dale is alright, but isn't Bioware (that was actually done in-house by Black Isle if I remember correctly).  Less story but much more character building and proving your badassery by slaughtering hordes and hordes of goblins.

Everyone's been telling me that.  It all depends on if I have time or not.  This semester has a ridiculous workload, plus I finally got into Morrowind, I plan on playing through Mass Effect at least one more time, I'm getting GTA IV, Too Human, Smash Brothers Brawl, and maybe Age of Conan.  Left4Dead, whenever it comes out...so maybe sometime this summer, if I'm not working at Big Huge or something?  I know how the story begins, and that intrigues me more than enough, I'm just trying to find time for all the games.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #101 on: 01 Mar 2008, 14:48 »

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« Reply #102 on: 01 Mar 2008, 20:04 »

We got interested in it again.  Shit happens.
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« Reply #103 on: 01 Mar 2008, 21:24 »

The difference here is that the necro'd thread has actually resulted in a good discussion, as opposed to the vast majority of necropostings.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #104 on: 08 Mar 2008, 10:56 »

SNES RPGs mang,

Secret of Mana (#1!!!!!)
Secret of Evermore
Chrono Trigger
Legend of Zelda
Illusions of Gaia
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #105 on: 08 Mar 2008, 11:22 »

For my own well balanced view of RPG I need to think about this, because as some know, RPG's definition is "roleplaying Game" now, this may be taken differently but to me that means you are fitting into the role of a character. Be it a ready made one you are forced to play (Final fantasy genre) Or be it one you create and are able to accomplish many goals by doing as you please (Morrowind). Then there are the Japanese grindfest RPGs, the Online MMORPGs.

Seems to me that RPG is a rather big thing, look at World of Warcraft, the game people swear "Changed the world" I won't lie I played it for 2 years then quit back in November due to the fact I didn't appreciate my effort being thrown back in my face by Blizzard. In truth, sure it changed the view of maybe a couple million gamers, perhaps more adn of course it has made a pretty set milestone in the marks of the history books. (10 million gamers, and probably one of the most (if not THE) most succesful  MMO out there.) I mean Final fantasy sure made a milestone in the market, (lets skip on the "FF 9 was better than FF5" debate please).

So in my own short rant here, my favourite RPG has to be one that encompasses a good story, promotes character progression and advancement, reasonabley complex and guides the player through the steps nicely, but not so slow its patronising. I can't think of any game off the top of my head so I will instead list a few of my Preferred RPGs.

EVE online (Yes its an RPG in a very strange way).
Fable
Final Fantasy 1 through 12
Diablo 1 + 2

Now thats probably the créme of the créme of my RPG playing, and I like to think I ahve played a lot, but as I say that is my own opinin, if you wish to disregard my opinion ahs false and lacking any depth, go ahead, I personally feel I enjoyed those games more than I did Morrowind, Fallout etcetera.

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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #106 on: 08 Mar 2008, 13:50 »

Grandia II. I loved the battle system and talked the game to death with my friends. Its still the only RPG that ever made me sniffle and tear up a little bit. I'm a wuss, but it was good.

WoW might not be a close second but its still one I devote a good bit of time to. Can't wait for the WotLK beta.
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« Reply #107 on: 08 Mar 2008, 17:51 »

^Grandia 2 was good, but the dialoge in parts was cheesy.

I also don't like it when my pure strength character gets off'd in my RPG's (reference to Grandia 2)

As far as my favorite RPG.....that's a tough one to answer. I can name my top 4

Anything with the word Zelda in it.....and Legend....and of course the and of.....and isn't on a machine made by panasonic.....those don't even fucking count....
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger*
Final  Fantasy 8

In that order

The Persona Series (except for 2, which I didn't like as much)


*I didn't have a SNES, so I first played it after Chrono Cross on the Bundle pack on the PS1, the one with FFIV. It was awesome, no doubt, but has some serious slowdown and loading issues, that CC didn't have....hell if I know why.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #108 on: 10 Mar 2008, 01:40 »

  Chrono Trigger
  FF9
  Warhammer Online (I'm in beta and it's great!)
  Diablo 2: LoD
  NWN (first one w/ all expansions)
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #109 on: 10 Mar 2008, 08:11 »

Just wondering here, since MMORPG is making a small approach, thism ight seem a tad bit off but what about MMORPGs? more specifically constantly released new content?

Since I have played deity knows how many MMORPGs, I have encountrered the abuse that my effort gets from dedicated play. Whay I mean to say is that when I spend all my time getting that "Sword of the Apocalypse +40" and come two months its no longer the best weapon but one that gets laughed and mocked because its "Easy to aquire and been super nerfed" Nerfed meaning reduced in its capabilities.

So come more recentley i've stopped playing all MMORPGs except free oens or ones that introduce a unique system where the more effort put in you are rewarded, not punished. Although they are rare and demand a  lot of patience.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #110 on: 10 Mar 2008, 11:48 »

Anything like that that's free?
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« Reply #111 on: 10 Mar 2008, 15:36 »

I will say it again, Phantasy Star IV. Seriously, any game where you can fight an enemy called "prophallus" HAS to be awesome.
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« Reply #112 on: 10 Mar 2008, 19:00 »

Ya know, I've been curious about that game. But I got the Phantasy Star collection, and honestly, Phantasy Star 1 traumatized me. I know, it's like refusing to play FFXII because you just played FF1 and it SUCKED, but Phantasy Star 1 raped me and Phantasy Star 2 looked like it was going to do the same.
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« Reply #113 on: 10 Mar 2008, 19:56 »

As far as character development and outright fun that I have had playing the game the RPGs at the top of my list are as follows.

Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Tales of Phantasia
Final Fantasy Tactics (yes its a strategy RPG)
Final Fantasy VI
... and Wild Arms mainly for nostalgia

Oh and I love Eve Online but I can't play it because it randomly decides to crash my computer whenever it feels like it
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #114 on: 11 Mar 2008, 18:32 »

So this isn't significant enough to have its own thread, but details from the next Obsidian game have leaked from Game Informer. Looks like Surfer Girl called it.
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Alpha Protocol
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Developer: Obsidian Entertainment
Platform: PS3/360/PC
Publisher: Sega
Release: Spring 2009

"A modern day espionage focused action/RPG that takes you on a suspenseful ride in the vein of James Bond, Jack Bauer, and Jason Bourne. Take a wet-behind-the-ears greenhorn agent up through the ranks to become a bona-fide super spy."
-Main character is Michael Thorton, a fully trained but inexperienced young operative who has the world turned upside down when a mission goes wrong.
-Title "Alpha Protocol" is a phrase that is used when operatives go underground to work off the grid. Usually reserved for senior agents.
-Battle system is similar to Mass Effect but have more in common with Uncharted. It revolves around real time combat with an emphasis on gun play and high tech gadgets.
-Third person perspective, action orientated gameplay
-Close quarters combat can be a last resort or primary method of fighting depending on how you spend skill points you have earned.
-Skill system is based most closely on Fallout. It's classless, you have 10 skills and 10 ranks in each skill. Skills don't simply improve things like accuracy, they improve the way your character will perceive situations.
-The game will suit all play styles from the run and gunner to the stealth assassin.
-Extremely in depth dialog system that is a mix of Mass Effect and Indigo Prophecy. Once conversations happen, that's it, no revisiting the NPC to try to talk again and again. System is named the Dialog Stance System. You dictate your characters tone in a conversation by pressing a corresponding face button. Options can be cool and suave others can be brash/impatient.
-You can have multiple active missions in different countries and travel freely between them.
-Lots of girls and romance subplots. You'll meet tons of different girls on missions and yes you can bag them all.
-Current control scheme for selecting powers and weapons is similar to Bioshock.
I think it looks promising for a new IP. Possibly a dialogue-heavy version of Hitman or Splinter Cell.
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« Reply #115 on: 11 Mar 2008, 22:59 »

Sounds awesome, but they had better finish their game this time.
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« Reply #116 on: 12 Mar 2008, 14:06 »

Ya know, I've been curious about that game. But I got the Phantasy Star collection, and honestly, Phantasy Star 1 traumatized me. I know, it's like refusing to play FFXII because you just played FF1 and it SUCKED, but Phantasy Star 1 raped me and Phantasy Star 2 looked like it was going to do the same.

It's actually pretty tame overall; while the other two were VERY HARDCORE HARD, it seems to be a bit more manageable. Also has really cool music and carries on after PSII -- PSIII is to all intents and purposes a side-story.
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« Reply #118 on: 22 Mar 2008, 04:12 »

I'd go with Torment (by Blizzard?) as my favorite PC RPG. It's original and it can go anywhere. I also like the amount of liberty you have in that game, especially when it comes to the dialogues, which are a big part of the game. The characters and setting are without equals.

I do an occassional Pen & paper Rpg too, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Quite an original RPG too, very gritty. One of my characters is a cleric/witch hunter who due to various trauma's has become mad as a doorknob... I mean, he suffers from nymphomania and heroic idiocy (and that's a lot of fun to play with, dangerous combination. I'm a hazzard to everyone near me, especially pretty female NPC's ;))...
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« Reply #119 on: 22 Mar 2008, 12:19 »

Not Blizzard, Black Isle.
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« Reply #120 on: 22 Mar 2008, 12:28 »

Blizzard hasn't made a good game in years, although I guess they were still making pretty good ones back in '99 when Torment was released.

I miss Black Isle.  So many good games under their belts or published under that name.  *sniff*
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« Reply #121 on: 22 Mar 2008, 12:43 »

I'm a big of a fan of BIS as anybody, but honestly, their reputation as a game developer is really overinflated. The games they're most often associated with that people use to illustrate their greatness are Fallout and Baldur's Gate 2, both of which they didn't have creative control over. Their development record is, well, spotty. It has some great games, like Fallout 2 and PS:T, but also a lot of dogs that people forget about, like Lionheart and (farther back into Interplay day) Descent Into Undermountain. The mixed record of Obsidian is much closer to the BIS standard than people care to admit.
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« Reply #122 on: 22 Mar 2008, 18:40 »

I don't have the same issue with Obsidian everyone else does.  My only beef with them is that they seem to run out of funding before every single game they ever make a bid on is finished.  KOTOR2 and NWN2 are the key examples.  Mask of the Betrayer?  One they had time to work on and polish up?  Awesome.  Sequel, sure, but it was pretty neat.

I don't recall Lionheart getting terrible reviews, just mediocre ones.  I was thinking more about the Fallout titles, PS:T, and both Dark Alliance games for the PS2.
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« Reply #123 on: 22 Mar 2008, 19:14 »

Lionheart was essentially outsourced to Reflexive entertainment. I wouldn't put that one all on BIS's door.
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« Reply #124 on: 22 Mar 2008, 19:19 »

Lionheart had a really interesting premise, and a great first third, but once you got out of that initial city, the game starts to become a grind. And the UI was really bad.
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« Reply #125 on: 22 Mar 2008, 21:20 »

Well now, I can see how you'd get the comparison to Obsidian.  They've got a really nasty habit of half-starting games then having to grind to finish them.
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« Reply #126 on: 23 Mar 2008, 00:38 »

Yeah, but Black Isle had some real gems. I'm still waiting for Obsidian to produce a gem.
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« Reply #127 on: 23 Mar 2008, 00:44 »

Aren't you the guy who won't play Mask of the Betrayer because NWN2 was spotty when he first got it? Or is that some other guy?
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« Reply #128 on: 23 Mar 2008, 01:06 »

I haven't played MoTB because I got rid of NWN2. Haven't had the chance, yet.
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« Reply #129 on: 25 Mar 2008, 13:14 »

Earthbound
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy IV, VII, and VIII
Parasite Eve
Lufia II
Chrono Trigger
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« Reply #130 on: 25 Mar 2008, 13:56 »

Final Fantasy VI
Final Fanyasy IV
Terranigma
Illusion of Gaia
Suikoden II
Chrono Trigger
Lunar: Silver Star Saga
Wild ARMS 2


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« Reply #131 on: 25 Mar 2008, 18:48 »

I forgot one that blew me away: Xenogears! Spectacular!
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« Reply #132 on: 25 Mar 2008, 19:06 »

If you like a year long game.
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« Reply #133 on: 25 Mar 2008, 19:40 »

Man, every thread I see you in, you're a downer.  Why so negative?  It's like I accidentally ran over your dog.  Is there something you like that you could maybe gush about instead of stuff you don't like?  I'm not trying to attack you or anything, you just always seem to be in a bad mood.  I don't know how else to describe it.  I think your avatar is wearing off on people.

To stay on topic, yeah, the Soul Blazer trilogy was pretty sweet. 
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« Reply #134 on: 25 Mar 2008, 19:43 »

Why did this thread not end when Chrono Trigger was named?
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« Reply #135 on: 25 Mar 2008, 21:21 »

To stay on topic, yeah, the Soul Blazer trilogy was pretty sweet. 
Oh yeah, I agree.  When you've got a trilogy of games loosely based off each other and the turd in the series is still pretty good fun, I say you have a winner.

I wouldn't mind seeing a real top-down action game again.  It's a dead genre, which is sad because so many good titles came out of it.
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« Reply #136 on: 26 Mar 2008, 00:23 »

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3581/a_japanese_rpg_primer_the_.php

This article has a lot to say on many of the titles mentioned here. Might be worth a look if you're curious.

One thing I did see as I was curious about what they thought of Phantasy Star was that they said that Yuji Naka was a designer for Phantasy Star. I always understood his roles in the series was chiefly as a programmer while design was by "Phenix Rie" Rieko Kodama (Alex Kidd, Skies of Arcadia*), and Naka had no role in PS IV at all.

*This game was also on the list, but she was not mentioned there either. If she's got two games near the top of the list, she ought to get some credit.
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« Reply #137 on: 26 Mar 2008, 06:58 »

Man, every thread I see you in, you're a downer.  Why so negative?  It's like I accidentally ran over your dog.  Is there something you like that you could maybe gush about instead of stuff you don't like?  I'm not trying to attack you or anything, you just always seem to be in a bad mood.  I don't know how else to describe it.  I think your avatar is wearing off on people.

To stay on topic, yeah, the Soul Blazer trilogy was pretty sweet. 

Sorry if I come off as a troll, It's just easier to sound mean than to come off as the nicest man in the world (which I just so happen to be, also, the most modest).

Actually, I love Xenogears. It's just a hella long game. Seriously.

I love the Soul Blazer trilogy. The only "bad" one (read: not as good as 50% of RPGs) is the original, while Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma are exceptional SNES RPGs.
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« Reply #138 on: 26 Mar 2008, 07:22 »

Suikoden and wild arms were good. but my all time favorite RPG has got to be Knights of the Old Republic.

KotoR II would have been cool... if they finished it.
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« Reply #139 on: 26 Mar 2008, 08:27 »

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I used to be a complete dick to everybody in the offtopic forums at Gamespot except for like 10 posters.  But it got repetitive, so I went back to being nice. 
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« Reply #140 on: 26 Mar 2008, 10:41 »

Soul Blazer was your least favorite of that series?  It's actually the one I enjoyed most.  I always considered Illusion of Gaia to be the series red-headed step child.

Hack brought up another good one.  Suikoden was awesome.  Suikoden 2 was one of the best RPGs ever.  I personally liked Suikoden 3 a lot as well, simply because I enjoyed the rotating main character idea.  Never got around to playing 4, so I didn't have a chance to Suikoden 5 or Suikoden Tactics yet.
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« Reply #141 on: 30 Mar 2008, 01:14 »

Man, I've just gotten back into gaming this year. I've been in a slump for the past 5 years since I decided books were a much better entertainment souce, plus they're a fuck load cheaper. This thread has definitely got me wanting to download a shit ton of old SNES roms and an emulator.

Top 5 RPGs:

FFX
FF7
Legends of Legaia
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Kingdom Hearts

Nothing much else to add to this thread really. Wooo RPG's.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #142 on: 30 Mar 2008, 16:30 »

I wish they had an ini file I could edit to change the walk speed.  Then my bitching about traveling would be stopped.

open the console with ~, then type (sans quotes):
"player-> setspeed x"

set it to 1000 or something ridiculous, go where you're going, and set it back to normal.

Or go get the Boots of Blinding Speed.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #143 on: 30 Mar 2008, 17:55 »

Oh.  I'm not gonna set it super high, I just want to set it to 2-3 times faster than what it is.  Make my running speed (which drains stamina) my normal speed.
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« Reply #144 on: 30 Mar 2008, 18:35 »

Then you can probably do with just grabbing the boots. +200 Speed, Blind 100%, so a Resist Magicka effect is handy tohave running when you equip them.
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« Reply #145 on: 30 Mar 2008, 19:14 »

A friend of mine invented a spell he called "Mario Travel" which gave him something like 1000 jump skill.  He's soar through the world, pulling out his dagger of levitation right before he hit the ground.

I thought it was rather ingenious.
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« Reply #146 on: 30 Mar 2008, 20:06 »

I'm a thief, and it appears that I have to use the console, as spellcrafting and resistance are not my fortes.
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« Reply #147 on: 30 Mar 2008, 20:36 »

You know, I never had that issue in Morrowind (ie: being limited in what I could do) but then again, I never really felt the need to roleplay any given style of play.  Because of how the game works, I couldn't help but metagame and make my guy good at everything.
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« Reply #148 on: 31 Mar 2008, 13:28 »

It's not that that's what I'm limited in doing it, it's because I'm trying to actually roleplay my RPG characters now.  I didn't use to, I would just take the easiest combination and run with it, but after a spate of awesome D&D sessions playing a Half-Orc Bard, I decided to give the roleplaying aspect of RPGs a good run.  So far it's been interesting.
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Re: favourite RPG
« Reply #149 on: 02 Apr 2008, 07:47 »

I have enjoyed..(opens draw next to computer)

Arcanum
Divine Divinty
Baldurs Gate
FF7
Morrowind.


I have tried IWD,PT,NWN an many others but they didnt cut the mustard. Perhaps I would have loved Planescape, but I was "done" with that kinda RPG after Baldurs/Arcanum/DD.

Morrowind spoiled NWN

FF7 was a BEAST, wish someone would do a remake.
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