Topic: A Song of Fire and Ice Series (Read 37221 times)

RedLeather · « **on:** 06 Sep 2005, 08:57 »

Has anyone read these books By George R.R. Martin? They are really well-put together, There are Three books os far and a fourth coming in november (Squee.) and a fifth with no release date. So i supposeh the purpose of this post is to revere george R.R. martin..and talk about his books i suppose...and discuss any information you might have of number 4 or five?

1. A Game of thrones-X
2. A clash of kings-X
3. A storm of swords-X
4.A feast for crows-O
5. A dance with dragons-O

Okay, due to management problems (....Spoilers and whatnot) I have put an X on what can be discussed and such, but not as far left field as you can as the one with the O's. Easy right?

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire A link!

shrimp · « **Reply #1 on:** 06 Sep 2005, 10:54 »

Yes, read em they were really good, great charcterisation and believable "heroes".

No black and white bad guys good guys there. Sometimes that is exactly what you want, sometimes not. But yeah. Cool. Will have to get book four!

RedLeather · « **Reply #2 on:** 06 Sep 2005, 14:05 »

Long Live Sandor Clegane?

Arkmam · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 Sep 2005, 12:21 »

The only thing bad about these books are the extreme amounts of time it takes for GRRM to write them

RedLeather · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 Sep 2005, 12:44 »

Amen Arkmam, Heh, Although i wonder if it will be harder to follow the books if the timelines switch around between A Feast For Crows and a Dance with Dragons?

est · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 04:26 »

1. i love these goddamn books. i am reading through them at the moment, and find them to be some of the best sci-fantasy books i've encountered.

2. RedLeather, your animated avatar image is 425kb. could you please either change it for something else, or find a version that isn't quite so large? (say, ~100kb max?)

RedLeather · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 08:59 »

Ah..I'll delete it and find somehting smaller, not really sure how to make the penguins tinier than they are, the compression file my friend used said it was at max, -Waves to her penguins- Buh bye!

Eldirial · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 11:27 »

The Song of Ice and Fire series is amazing... just finished reading the first three- when I met my current group of friends about 4 months ago, they made me read them- and I can't complain. It really is one of the few series that the only problem with them is that we have to wait for more.

RedLeather · « **Reply #8 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 15:55 »

*Point* We may be waiting for more but, at least we aren't waiting for the last one already.

est · « **Reply #9 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 19:16 »

also: Dany is hardcore. the scene with the pillow was awesome. after everything she'd done, everything she sacrificed. she knew what she had to do, and bam.

well 'ard.

i'm only a halfway through the first part of book 3, and my friends are telling me that Arya goes mental in the future, which i am very much looking forward to seeing

Eldirial · « **Reply #10 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 19:40 »

Danny is VERY much hardcore- let me know when you have finished- me and my friends have come up with some odd ideas behind what might happen, including who the parent or parents of John Snow just might be...

RedLeather · « **Reply #11 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 19:57 »

Hehe, It's always a fun topic to speculate on The Lord Commander of the Nightwatch. What i wouldn't give to be Dany right now. But i have a question, Who thought Arstan Whitebeard was Ser Barristan Selmy? certainly surprised me a bit.

Also Seeing Arya as a assassin, somehow just fit's the book...but ponder: What happened to *Her* direwolve? Obviously it's not dead, but will it show up again?

Tally: Ghost *Alive* Greywind *Dead* Lady *dead* ( I frorgot the name of Arya's direwolf...Damn me!) *Dead* Summer *Alive* Shaggydog *Who knows?*

Eldirial · « **Reply #12 on:** 12 Sep 2005, 20:08 »

Nymeria, something like that on Arya's wolf.

Caution- those who haven't read all three, don't read to far into this or you might realize some things...

See, we think the Starks will be like the Swat of the seven kingdoms. Ricken will be some crazy axe weilding kid riding a wolf, John some sort of commander with a famous sword, Arya an assasin, Sansa (Or however you spell it) could easily be a trained mistress of coin...

Starks = Kickass

RedLeather · « **Reply #13 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 05:48 »

Or, Ya know, GRRM could *kill* off all the starks...and focus it's attention on another family? Although highly doubtful, since he apparently bothered to bring back Lady Stark....

Eldirial · « **Reply #14 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 16:56 »

I think at least some of the Starks will last- don't even start on the whole theory of Bran taking over Hodor to become a knight.

We have odd ideas.

And if John Snow might not actually be Eddards son.

RedLeather · « **Reply #15 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 19:28 »

Ser Hodor, the great and mighty...Hodor! Heh, I'unno, i have a theory though, it's probably already been discussed by many people...What would happen if Bran just left his human body entirely? Like Jojen/Meera keep warning him about?

Eldirial · « **Reply #16 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 19:33 »

Well, I imagine that depends- they touch on Hodor being really dumb, etc- so I could see Bran inhabiting him or Summer... but I don't think he will make that mistake. I image the "three eyed crow" will teach him otherwise.

est · « **Reply #17 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 23:50 »

Hodor Hodor Hodor!

Eldirial · « **Reply #18 on:** 13 Sep 2005, 23:52 »

HOOOOOOOOODOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!

I wanna see Hodor v the Mountain that Rides.

RedLeather · « **Reply #19 on:** 14 Sep 2005, 05:32 »

The Mountain That Rides, i think died, or somehting close, because of his two-step dance with the Red Viper. Poison and all that.

Eldirial · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 Sep 2005, 06:30 »

Naw, I'm pretty sure he might survive that- I know he wasn't doing all that well last time he was checked on, but this is the Mountain.

I've found... if you dont get told someone is dead, they very well may not be.

And hell, even if you ARE told they are dead sometimes they are not.

RedLeather · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 Sep 2005, 08:36 »

Case supporting Eldirial's theory: Catelyn Stark...Can't talk, but sure as heck can point out (..Maybe a spoiler? Anyway the "Bonus" chapter in my storm of swords book has the Band of Outlaws without a banner/Dondarions group as having Catelyn Stark alive)

Eldirial · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 Sep 2005, 14:35 »

I just think someone, perhaps the pyromancers, will be brought in to fix up Gregor- I don't even wanna know what they can do now. X.x... with magic returning and all.

chamberk · « **Reply #23 on:** 14 Sep 2005, 21:01 »

One thing I thought should be mentioned: A Feast for Crows is going to be concerned with characters on the southern part of the continent - Jaime, Cersei, Sansa, probably... and then the next book, Dance of Dragons, will concern itself with the northern regions and people overseas. AFFC was getting too long, so Martin decided to cut those two halves of the story into two separate books. It's sad, because I wanted to read more about Jon and Dany and Arya, but right now I'm glad to get ANYthing from that series. ANd hell, a good deal of the northern stuff will be already written, so the wait for ADOD shouldn't be as bad. November can't come soon enough.

RedLeather · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 Sep 2005, 05:27 »

Nyeh, I know....-Looks at her time machine- It just won't work! -Twitch.- keeps taking me to "Dystopian Future Central" ...Or Dune. -Shudder- Anyway, back on topic...Pyromancers? Healing? I could just imagine one putting wildfire in Gregors wounds.

Eldirial · « **Reply #25 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 09:17 »

Pyromancers... Well, Im not sure healing would be what they ended up doing, but with all these powers coming back to them now, I wouldnt put it past them to be able to stich him back together somehow.

RedLeather · « **Reply #26 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 15:31 »

Or, ya'know, more likley re-animate the Mountain That Walks as an all-loyal and nothing-knowing corpse. That'd be fun. No Pain. Just an axe down the enemies spine.

Eldirial · « **Reply #27 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 16:37 »

But so far, only priests of the Red God can do that... I dunno if the Lanisters have any of them just sitting around.

RedLeather · « **Reply #28 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 16:39 »

Ah, but magic is returning, so if a god of a supposed all-powerful god can do it, why not alchemists who can kill people by the tens and thousands (Depending, of course, on how much 'piss' the alchemist has)

Eldirial · « **Reply #29 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 22:07 »

Hmmm, I imagine so.

I want Danny to end up with an elite crew of warriors, Married to John Snow.

HEY! I can dream.

It would be cool.

And Strong Belwas kicks ass.

RedLeather · « **Reply #30 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 22:10 »

Of course he does, He's one thousand fet tall of Awesome! (....heh, Yay for other comic references!) To bd he's a eunich though, poor bastud.

Eldirial · « **Reply #31 on:** 16 Sep 2005, 22:20 »

My buddies, who got me to read the series, are allways deciding "who is who"... and we have one friend, who only reminds us of two people. Varys, and Belwas (Only when he is mad)...

Lets just say, Matt doesn't like only getting to be eunichs. Never really makes him smile.

RedLeather · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 12:38 »

I wouldn't smile either! Hehe...I wonder, was varys a snake in a past life? Seems like it.

Eldirial · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 12:49 »

Varys is an ass...

Though it does seem that deep down, he is trying to get Danny in power- so I guess I can go for that.

But seriously... Song of Ice and Fire definatly has allot of characters to dislike... hell, look at Arya's list!

RedLeather · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 14:12 »

Of course, I wonder...I don't have my books with me (I lent them out to a person i hope to convert to GRRM) Did the Hound die? or did Arya just leave him? and will her "List" get longer? xP

Eldirial · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 15:37 »

The Hound's fate is untold- I imagine purposfully. I imagine he has quite a role to still play- he's a kickass guy... in a semi-evil kinda way.

Arya's list is mostly taken care of... Tickler, Poliver, The Mountain, (The Hound I imagine she no longer wants dead), Joffery, Amoury Lorch, etc.

I allmost want the Mountain to be alive, so the Hound can kill him.

And I want to see Jamie Lanister decide that a certain "maid of Tarth" is a better companion.

Could happen.

RedLeather · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 15:41 »

Of course she is, Someone has to defend his poor nubby-self.

Eldirial · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 15:58 »

Quote from: RedLeather

Of course she is, Someone has to defend his poor nubby-self.

He needs to shut up and learn to fight with his other hand- I'm sure he can handle it.

RedLeather · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 16:03 »

I've fought people with my left hand..(Mind you, this is Modern times and fencing gear, but still!) It's fun, i suppose, because people are like ..thrown off,

Back on topic: Hehehe...Yes, yes he does need to shut up...I wonder, what would Maester Aemon say if he met Dany?

Eldirial · « **Reply #39 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 17:05 »

Hmmm.. wow. That's an interesting question, and I must say I have No clue what the maester would say. Hmm.

Eh, Jamie could strap his shield to his nubbie.

RedLeather · « **Reply #40 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 18:20 »

It'd have to be ....a very large shield, albeit, maybe a shield with a serrated edge?

Eldirial · « **Reply #41 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 19:03 »

Hmmm... I dunno what he should do.

You would figure someone who is supposedly one of the best fighters in existance would be able to figure out a good way to fight.

RedLeather · « **Reply #42 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 19:25 »

You also wouldn't think a former Knight of the Kingsguard would dress up as an old (Really, really old) squire. Hmm...If only GRRM's universe was real, i'd like to visit The Wall one day...since apprently it's freakishly...Wait...
I just thought of something

Will the dwarf likley meet Arya in The Free Cities of Bravoosi?

Eldirial · « **Reply #43 on:** 17 Sep 2005, 19:32 »

Well, assuming Arya doesn't somehow go to the wall instead, yes, I imagine... and if he convinces her he isn't evil, mayhaps they will become traveling companions.

RedLeather · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 08:09 »

But *IS* the dwarf eeeevil? o.o

Eldirial · « **Reply #45 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 08:17 »

I don't really think he is.. but I am sure Arya has a different opinion.

RedLeather · « **Reply #46 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 08:52 »

Hehe, probably, i wonder, with just us two discussing this...how many pages do you think we kin' make?

I so want a valyarian steel sword..-Whimper.-

Eldirial · « **Reply #47 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 11:40 »

It can easily go far! Mayhaps we will generate intrest in the books- they are rather good.

And as for valyeian steel (Can't spell, I know)... I just don't know if I would prefer Longclaw or Ice.

RedLeather · « **Reply #48 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 11:46 »

Mayhaps indeed! >> Maybe we should supply a linky link to either the books at amazon, or wikipedia? (Yup, they have their own Wiki Link.) Oh and

-Clings to longclaw- Gr! Mine! o.o

Eldirial · « **Reply #49 on:** 18 Sep 2005, 11:57 »

Eh, fair enough- I'll remake Ice and weild it. I imagine I'm big enough to use it correctly.

Hmmm... yes, linkage would be good- perhaps in the first post?

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