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« Reply #50 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:28 »

Uhm, any reason why you feel the need to apologize for what may very well be one of the most important bands in history?

And no, that is not a matter of opinion. Whether you like or dislike the Beatles, they were freaking important. This is not debateable. It was fact. They changed music forever. Most of what we have today would not even exist if it were not for them.
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« Reply #51 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:31 »

but they invented pop music. I can understand for having to apologise for that.
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« Reply #52 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:34 »

But the point of apologizing is saying "I'm sorry for this, it shouldn't have happened". Dude the Beatles were fucking NESSESARY. Apologies just do not even work in this situation.

I'm sorry for being an anal retentive bitch, I just cannot even comprehend this situation right now.
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« Reply #53 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:41 »

listen, I don't wanna get into it, I don't think you're going to change his opinion. I say we drop it.
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« Reply #54 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:41 »

may i suggest breathing? ^_^
if you came from liverpool and had them forced down your throat every day of your life..
also, if you got asked by tourists almost every day where the goddamn ellen mcarthur statue is..
its funny that people always blow up at me when they discover my hatred.
but.
trollstormur hit the nail on the head.
and its not just the music but the whole culture behind it.

edit: trollstormur, i am girl.
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« Reply #55 on: 12 Nov 2005, 09:57 »

Basically: Nuke the very old beatles, keep the stuff when they stopped touring and made some good music. Their early work is pretty worthless though, at least to me.
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« Reply #56 on: 12 Nov 2005, 10:41 »

Scotland. Soooo............

Apologies for: The Proclaimers, Lulu, Wet Wet Wet, KT Tunstall,

Compensation: Biffy Clyro, Aerogramme, Mogwai, Belle and Sebastian, Marmaduke Duke, Arab Strap, Aberfeldy, Teenage Fanclub, and Idlewild.
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« Reply #57 on: 12 Nov 2005, 10:53 »

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Basically: Nuke the very old beatles, keep the stuff when they stopped touring and made some good music. Their early work is pretty worthless though, at least to me.


Sounds about right?

A girl who likes 1349? ZOMG MARRY ME AND HAVE METAL BABIES. </stereotypical reaction>

Still, metal babies.

"Is he crying?"

"No, but he's throwing the horns!"

Anyway, why do you have a statue of Ellen Mcarthur? She lives on my island, dammit!
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« Reply #58 on: 12 Nov 2005, 12:02 »

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Anyway, why do you have a statue of Ellen Mcarthur? She lives on my island, dammit!


because i'm extremely absent minded and meant to say eleanor rigby?
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« Reply #59 on: 12 Nov 2005, 13:34 »

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being from California, i would like to apologize for the monster of mediocre rock music that Green Day has become, as well as Goldfinger, Finch, Avenged Sevenfold, Weezer's last three albums, Korn, Linkin Park, etc.  however, i think The Aquabats, Jawbreaker, Mike Park, Jets to Brazil, Agent Orange, The Adolescents, Descendents, Throw Rag, Del tha Funky Homosapien and a bunch of other bands/artists i'm sure i'm forgetting do/did their part in helping to heal the wounds.

and while we're on the subject, i'd like to thank the country of Canada for providing The Weakerthans, The Planet Smashers, and Chris Murray.


You, lovely gentleman, now have my heart! Big ups for mentioning Mike Park, big ups. I totally forgot to mention The Weakerthans in my list though. Also, CHRIS MURRAY'S FROM CANADA?
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« Reply #60 on: 12 Nov 2005, 14:08 »

On the behalf of the city of Bradford, i would like to apologise for gareth gates. On the positive side, a friend of mine knows a girl that used to beat him up in school. So we can pretend that was some VERY proactive justice.
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« Reply #61 on: 12 Nov 2005, 15:25 »

I'm not a huge Beatles fan, but you gotta give the props for Sgt. Peppers and the White Album.  Amazing, and the latter gave us the Gray Album, so...

I'd like to give shoutouts to Britain.  Autechre, Leftfield, Photek, Mclusky...can you do no wrong?

Wait, don't answer that.

Also, Yugoslavia gets further Kudos for Laibach.  "Tanz Mit Laibach."  Really, I don't need to say much more.
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« Reply #62 on: 12 Nov 2005, 16:02 »

Tanz Mit Laibach is, indeed, the best industrial dance track ever.
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« Reply #63 on: 12 Nov 2005, 16:13 »

laibach are great.
their "deus ex mchina" is nice.
but why did i think they were german?
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« Reply #64 on: 12 Nov 2005, 19:15 »

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edit: trollstormur, i am girl.


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« Reply #65 on: 13 Nov 2005, 02:34 »

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but why did i think they were german?


*enter useless trivia mode*

they're slovenian to be precise but sing in german, presumably because it sounds evil ;) They are named after the german name for the capital of Slovenia, Ljubljana.
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« Reply #66 on: 13 Nov 2005, 16:23 »

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Also, CHRIS MURRAY'S FROM CANADA?


yup.  he's living in Los Angeles now, yeah, but he's originally from Canada.  he was in a band up there called King Apparatus.
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« Reply #67 on: 13 Nov 2005, 17:38 »

KaosPilot:

In addition to some of the bands you already mentioned, I'd also like to thank you and your countrymen for The Delgados, Boards of Canada, and The Beta Band!
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« Reply #68 on: 13 Nov 2005, 17:46 »

Oh, and an important apology -- I'm originally from Virginia, so I'd like to say that I'm very very VERY sorry about the Dave Matthews Band.  

Cheers for Missy Elliot, Ella Fitzgerald, and The Carter Family, though.
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« Reply #69 on: 13 Nov 2005, 17:55 »

So Dave Matthews is from Virginia? If I lived in Virginia, I think I'd shoot myself.



 I just learned Puddle of Mudd are from Kansas. This too is shoot yourself material.Bring me my bullets, My brain needs lead.



Seriously, people, I am SO fucking sorry.
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« Reply #70 on: 13 Nov 2005, 18:50 »

I doubt any of you would know any of the dire New Zealand bands that we've produced, but I apologise for the television show "popstars" which some kiwi mastermind came up with. "popstars" begat "Your country here Idol", so yeah. I'm sorry.

If any of you have had the pleasure of listening to any bands on the Flying Nun label you will probably forgive us tho. The Clean, The Bats, The Verlaines, 3Ds etc FTW!

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« Reply #71 on: 13 Nov 2005, 21:43 »

Flying Nun is for Yes. NZ has yet to offend my ears. Your experimental music (The Dead C, Birchville Cat Motel) is great too, despite what some around me think.
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« Reply #72 on: 13 Nov 2005, 22:20 »

Well... I'll try and concentrate on Quebec since the rest [of Canada] is being pretty well covered...
I'm sorry for
Celine Dion, Jonas, Simple Plan and I'm sure many many others

At least we provided... erm... did anything good we did ever get out of here?
I'd say La Bottine Souriante (traditional folk) is pretty darn excellent..
And Cryptopsy if you're into that kind of stuff..

jeez, what DID get known (good and/or bad) from Quebec?
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« Reply #74 on: 13 Nov 2005, 23:37 »

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I doubt any of you would know any of the dire New Zealand bands that we've produced, but I apologise for the television show "popstars" which some kiwi mastermind came up with. "popstars" begat "Your country here Idol", so yeah. I'm sorry.

If any of you have had the pleasure of listening to any bands on the Flying Nun label you will probably forgive us tho. The Clean, The Bats, The Verlaines, 3Ds etc FTW!


Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom are from New Zealand. For that I love your country forever.
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« Reply #75 on: 14 Nov 2005, 06:22 »

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Well... I'll try and concentrate on Quebec since the rest [of Canada] is being pretty well covered...
I'm sorry for
Celine Dion, Jonas, Simple Plan and I'm sure many many others

At least we provided... erm... did anything good we did ever get out of here?
I'd say La Bottine Souriante (traditional folk) is pretty darn excellent..
And Cryptopsy if you're into that kind of stuff..

jeez, what DID get known (good and/or bad) from Quebec?

As I said before: Ion Dissonance. I like them a lot, although they are probably even worse than Cryptopsy.
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« Reply #76 on: 14 Nov 2005, 11:25 »

Well, I'm not sure if I should be representing my new home of Scotland, or my old home of England.
If Scotland, I offer Mogwai, Boards Of Canada and Bify Clyro. I apologise for Franz Ferdinand, and probobly alot of other things.

England is a rather larger affair, so I'll work with genres. Sorry about Brit-pop, both the Oasis / Blur time (except for Pulp), and the new crap (Kaiser Cheifs, The Dull No-One Cares, etc). I'm also deeply sorry for Garage.
On the plus side, we gave you Drum n Bass, IDM, Grime, Dubstep and Post-rock (Well, we came up with the word, anyway).
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« Reply #77 on: 14 Nov 2005, 12:15 »

I'm sorry america killed punk.

our bad.
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« Reply #78 on: 14 Nov 2005, 18:57 »

I'd like to ask for forgiveness since Canada begat Nickleback and everyone associated with them (Default, Theory of a Dead Man).

In return, we give you Islands and Stompin' Tom Connors.

Edit: I checked on AMG, and apparently South Africa is to blame for Dave Matthews. They also brought Manfred Mann into this world, so I'm not sure where they stand.
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« Reply #79 on: 15 Nov 2005, 07:46 »

Yeah, I think Dave Matthews himself is South African, but the band got together in Charlottesville, Virginia.  I'm happy to pass the blame to South Africa, though!
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« Reply #80 on: 15 Nov 2005, 08:14 »

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New Jersey:
THE BAD
My Chemical Romance
Thursday

THE GOOD
Bruce Springsteen
The Smithereens

Yeah we haven't done anything decent since the 80's, I'll admit it.


I'd like to add The Feelies to the THE GOOD list.  Especially for the first two LPs.

As for me

I apologise most profusely for Kasabian
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« Reply #81 on: 15 Nov 2005, 09:09 »

i would like to tack a Streetlight Manifesto rider onto the New Jersey GOOD list.
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« Reply #82 on: 15 Nov 2005, 09:10 »

Weren't Fast Times from New Jersey? They kicked ass in large amounts. I still have fond memories of the crowd surfing challenges they set when they played here with Imbalance years ago.
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« Reply #83 on: 16 Nov 2005, 04:20 »

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Weren't Fast Times from New Jersey? They kicked ass in large amounts.

Precisely so!
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« Reply #84 on: 16 Nov 2005, 05:41 »

I'd like to apologies for Max Martin, the guy who wrote pretty much every song for Backstreet Boys and Brittney Spears. And also for Roxette (actually, I apologise for everthing that Per Gessle has done, but I guess Roxette is the only one of his bands that any forigner have to suffer trough).

uh, and I'm also very, very sorry that the creator of "crazy frog" happens to be Swedish, but he actually already apologised to the world himself, so I guess I don't have to do that.

But on the bright side, we do have bands such as Perishers, David & the Citizens, Soundtrack of our lives, Dungen, Bad Qash Quartet, Tiger Lou, Bob Hund and The Ark.. and Abba, of course. Altough I feel I should apologies for them too sometimes.
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« Reply #85 on: 16 Nov 2005, 07:13 »

I would like to apologise for such horrid Canadian acts as: Sloan, The Tragically Hip, Bryan Adams, Brian Mulroney, Alanis Morrissette, Great Big Sea, The Barenaked Ladies, 54/40 and Canadian Idol. All that stupid stuff.

But, in Canada's defense: The Constantines, Moneen, The Unicorns, Sea Snakes, the Hidden Cameras, Neil Young (!), Joni Mitchell, The Weakerthans, Wolf Parade, Fembots, You Say Party! We say Die! and every incarnation of AC Newman's amazing songwriting.

Oh, I forgot to apologise for the big one: Billy Talent. I am sooo sorry. Can you ever forgive us?
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« Reply #86 on: 16 Nov 2005, 22:06 »

Brian Mulroney?



THAT Brian Mulroney? You will be my hero if you tell me that he had a singing career that I haven't heard about.

Honestly, that would make this an awesome year.
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« Reply #87 on: 17 Nov 2005, 09:26 »

Sadly, he never had a singing career. I just thought it would be funny to all the rest of the Canadians to namedrop him.
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« Reply #88 on: 22 Nov 2005, 13:53 »

haha i laughed.

i loathe brian mulroney. but he had an entertaining chin. that will do.

canada really created some incredible music. i would like to add greg macpherson, cuff the duke, rae spoon, valdy, propagandhi, and, althought previously mentioned, the weakerthans, because i love them so much.

ew, i just remembered ben mulroney. how frightening.

and i profusely apologize for all the pop-punk. i am so sorry.

and of course, celine dion and shania twain. if i had a gun and a violent attitude, they would be shot.
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« Reply #89 on: 22 Nov 2005, 13:59 »

Simple Plan, Nickelback and the ilks of both are things I am terribly sorry for. Everyone else on the UK Singles Jukebox has duly noted them as part of my cultural heritage, giving me my only reason for seppuku thus far.

However, we pretty much invented the indie rock collective. Also, Death From Above 1979. And Sloan. And Moneen. And locally, we gave you Despistado. Now we give you Sylvie.
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« Reply #90 on: 22 Nov 2005, 14:44 »

The UK Singles Jukebox... That's on Stylus isn't it? Do you write for them?
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« Reply #91 on: 22 Nov 2005, 15:33 »

John Cameron, aka That Indie Fuck, The Guy Who Hates tatu, etc. I'm going to submit my name for actual music reviews, too.
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« Reply #92 on: 22 Nov 2005, 18:24 »

death from above!!!

that definately takes away all the terrible music we have produced.
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« Reply #93 on: 22 Nov 2005, 21:37 »

Lester Bangs was into Anne Murray.
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« Reply #94 on: 22 Nov 2005, 21:56 »

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Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom are from New Zealand. For that I love your country forever.


Wait, that's a band?  I thought it was just the coolest early 90's cult shareware EGA space invaders clone ever.

I believe the UK produced the entire genre of trip-hop...the gestalt of The Sneaker Pimps + Portishead is enough to wash away many, many sins.
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« Reply #95 on: 23 Nov 2005, 15:20 »

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Lester Bangs was into Anne Murray.




We can't all be perfect. Besides, Lester Bangs was so awesome I can totally ignore some things.
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« Reply #96 on: 23 Nov 2005, 16:22 »

about 80 posts, half of them canadian it seem, and none of you have mentioned the sheer life-changing gift that is Leonard Cohen. tsk tsk tsk

having said that, romania has offered nothing to the international music scene, so I have no prezzies nor any apologies for you.

And before you start moaning, 2 things: o-zone are moldovan and the cheeky girls are a product of british manufacture who have not even made it in romania (and if you knew the bredth of shit on the airwaves there, that's saying something)

also, i should probably say something about britain cause i've lived here for most my life, but i won't cause it's already been coved sufficely and pretty well - one or two minor qualms aside.
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« Reply #97 on: 23 Nov 2005, 18:55 »

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I would like to apologise for such horrid Canadian acts as: Sloan, The Tragically Hip, Bryan Adams, Brian Mulroney, Alanis Morrissette, Great Big Sea, The Barenaked Ladies, 54/40 and Canadian Idol. All that stupid stuff.


To be fair, we didn't invent Canadian Idol.  Our hands are somewhat clean.
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« Reply #98 on: 23 Nov 2005, 19:59 »

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about 80 posts, half of them canadian it seem, and none of you have mentioned the sheer life-changing gift that is Leonard Cohen. tsk tsk tsk


Life-changing gift? I mean he's good, but not that good. I would like to add him to my list.
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« Reply #99 on: 24 Nov 2005, 06:42 »

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Ah, cool. I was interested because my friend Will writes for that bit of Stylus, or maybe edits it, I forget. And he does love the dodgy pop, even made me sit through a Girls Aloud record once...
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