Topic: Great bands you do care for?? (Read 34165 times)

Thrillho · « **Reply #100 on:** 13 Jan 2007, 23:21 »

Friends?

When were we friends?

Who the fuck are you?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #101 on:** 13 Jan 2007, 23:27 »

Fight!

Ben yayayayayayayay · « **Reply #102 on:** 13 Jan 2007, 23:53 »

annawanna fight i hurt my leg yesterday!

that hurt my feelings what you said DK

EDIT: just noticed that rhymes

Thrillho · « **Reply #103 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 01:14 »

I'll warn you, I have a pair of blunt safety scissors and I'm not afraid of using them.

camelpimp · « **Reply #104 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 03:14 »

Uh, I don't like Interpol at all? Their lyrics, or Bank's voice, or well, all of it? It's kind of massively boring?

Thrillho · « **Reply #105 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 03:41 »

Quote from: camelpimp on 14 Jan 2007, 03:14

Uh, I don't like Interpol at all? Their lyrics, or Bank's voice, or well, all of it? It's kind of massively boring?

'My school was too poor to teach us about full stops.'

Ben yayayayayayayay · « **Reply #106 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 09:23 »

Quote from: camelpimp on 14 Jan 2007, 03:14

Uh, I don't like Interpol at all? Their lyrics, or Bank's voice, or well, all of it? It's kind of massively boring?

I can see that. Interpol kind of bored me at first, too. But one day I was in a real shitty mood and I was listening to their album and it suddenly just felt good.
I'M, LIEK, A GOTH.

Ernest · « **Reply #107 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 12:00 »

I didn't like Interpol at first. Then one day I realized I'd actually heard more Interpol songs than I thought I had, and I'd liked them. Now I like them, and I know it. I prefer this way.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #108 on:** 16 Jan 2007, 21:35 »

Of all the threads I've made, I'm (semi-)proud that a (half-)joke is the one that refuses to die.

Ernest · « **Reply #109 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 00:25 »

And I'm (semi-)amused that you posted that after nobody had posted on this thread for a full day.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #110 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 01:59 »

I've never understood the "Interpol has horrible lyrics" thing. She Wants Revenge, now those are laughably bad lyrics (and I think it's intentional, because "I heard it's cold out, but her popsicle melts, she's in the bathroom, she pleasures herself" can not possibly be a serious lyric).

But I like Interpol's lyrics. Lines like "I submit my incentive is romance, I watched the pole dance of the stars" are no more obtuse or awkward than, say, "semen stains the mountaintops". At worst Banks' lyrics are kind of mundane, and his delivery is pretty great.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #111 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 03:18 »

i'm not criticizing interpols lyrics. sometimes weak sure, and at time, from what i remember, not too shabby. but please please please never compare interpol to neutral milk hotel. ever.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #112 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 03:40 »

I was just pointing out that Jeff Mangum writes some lyrics that a lot of people could argue are pretty bad. Not everyone appreciates his... uh... "unique" style. As much as I love NMH I do sometimes get tired of the cheerleading (especially since a lot of NMH cheerleaders didn't listen to either album until well after they came out... I've had both albums since '98, get back to me when you've had enough time to get burnt out on them). Aeroplane, particularly, hasn't aged nearly as well for me as On Avery Island; I listen to the latter about five times as often as the former.

Now, an album that still sounds as good today as it did in '98 is something like Bardo Pond's "Lapsed" or Labradford's "Mi Media Naranja". I can throw those in and still be every bit as amazed now as I was then.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #113 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 03:55 »

"Mi Media Naranja" is indeed brilliant. i love it and it has aged well, you're right.
as for NMH, i've had both since 2000 so i guess you have two years on me and i do absolutly love aeroplane but there are times when i actually prefer on avery island. i think it's underappreciated, since most NMH fans i know have only heard the former. for me though, these albums have aged well and i've listened to them fairly consistently since i got them. i don't think praising is akin to cheerleading either. if it's an honest appreciation for a well deserving talent then i think much praise is warranted. true, maybe those albums aren't as special as the the first few dozen times i heard them, but they're still brilliant methinks.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #114 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 04:03 »

Yeah, I agree. I just think a lot of older NMH fans go through "The Five Stages of NMH Fandom":

1. "Oh my God, what is this awful shit?!"
2. (Two weeks later) "Oh my God, this is the best fucking band EVER."
3. (Two years later) "Jeff Mangum is the Bob Dylan of our generation."
4. (Two years later) "Yeah, NMH rock."
5. (Two years later) "I like On Avery Island better."

I don't know why OAI doesn't get as much love as Aeroplane either. To me it has better lyrics "Gardenhead/Leave Me Alone", "Naomi", "Song Against Sex", hell, the whole fucking album. To me "I swear I have nothing to prove, I just wanna dance in your tangles to give me some reason to move" is literally the best lyric I have ever heard in any song, ever. Ever.

And songs like "Oh Comely"... there was a time I worshipped that song and played it at open mic nights and everything, but for some reason now I find it a little boring. I never liked "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" (the song). Now, both parts of "Two Headed Boy" and "King of Carrot Flowers" and "Holland, 1945", yes, those songs are still epic.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #115 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 04:10 »

lyrically i prefer OAI in a lot of ways too. i think the entiery of april 8th (darker than many of his songs) and someone is waiting is fantastic. same with where you'll fine me now and....well this post is a little redundant b/c like you said, the whole album.
there's just one part of oh, comely that i really love:

"And I know they buried her body with others
Her sister and mother and 500 families
And will she remember me 50 years later
I wished I could save her in some sort of time machine
Know all your enemies
We know who our enemies are"

this is up among my favorites moments from any song (lyrically, but even more so when mangum actually sings it on the album).

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #116 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 04:28 »

When I first realized what he was actually saying "You're in the bathroom carving holiday designs into yourself hoping no one would find you, but they found you and they took you and you somehow survived" I got chills... for a while I didn't pay much attention to that song and didn't really listen to the lyrics.

The best part of "Oh Comely" for me is:

Your father made fetuses
With flesh licking ladies
While you and your mother
Were asleep in the trailer park
Thunderous sparks from the dark of the stadiums
The music and medicine you needed for comforting
So make all your fat fleshy fingers to moving
And pluck all your silly strings
And bend all your notes for me

Eventually, every thread becomes about Neutral Milk Hotel. It's inevitable.

Thrillho · « **Reply #117 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 05:26 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 17 Jan 2007, 01:59

I've never understood the "Interpol has horrible lyrics" thing. She Wants Revenge, now those are laughably bad lyrics (and I think it's intentional, because "I heard it's cold out, but her popsicle melts, she's in the bathroom, she pleasures herself" can not possibly be a serious lyric).

But I like Interpol's lyrics. Lines like "I submit my incentive is romance, I watched the pole dance of the stars" are no more obtuse or awkward than, say, "semen stains the mountaintops". At worst Banks' lyrics are kind of mundane, and his delivery is pretty great.

I have two prime examples of why I hate Paul Banks' lyrics. Now, like I said, I do love this band and I will gladly sing along to the crap he spews (I sing like a motherfucker to 'Obstacle 1.' He never sounds more like Ian Curtis than when he sings 'you go stabbing yourself in the neck.')

Example One:'Well, she was my catatonic sex toy, love-joy diver.'
What?

Example Two:'The trouble is/that you're in love with someone else.'
NO SHIT.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #118 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 05:36 »

Hahaha... I never thought Banks sounded too much like Ian Curtis, to me he sounds more like the dude from the Church or the dude from the Chameleons.

And hey, I like the "catatonic sex toy" line... but as I said and you pointed out, yes, some of his lyrics are rather mundane... like "All I want is to be the very best to you" and whatnot... but I personally think "Her stories are boring and stuff" is on some level a purely genius lyric.

Thrillho · « **Reply #119 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 05:41 »

I think that lyric is genius because it hides behind being shit. It's so terrible, that it reads like it's deliberately terrible, which gives the IMPRESSION of genius, which is genius in itself.

If you get me.

I just can't get over that 'you're in love with someone else' line for some reason. I swear I can't listen to that song, ever, because of that line. It's like saying, 'the trouble is, I've been shot in the chest.' 'The trouble is, I have cancer in five places.' Way to fucking go on that observation.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #120 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 06:22 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 17 Jan 2007, 05:41

I think that lyric is genius because it hides behind being shit. It's so terrible, that it reads like it's deliberately terrible, which gives the IMPRESSION of genius, which is genius in itself.

Yes, it passes through "bad" and comes out the other side.

I don't think any other band could pull off a line like "I'm tired of spending these lonely nights teaching myself not to care" without sounding totally pretentious.

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I just can't get over that 'you're in love with someone else' line for some reason. I swear I can't listen to that song, ever, because of that line. It's like saying, 'the trouble is, I've been shot in the chest.' 'The trouble is, I have cancer in five places.' Way to fucking go on that observation.

See, now I'm not going to be able to listen to that song either. Good thing I never cared too much for it anyhow.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #121 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 07:10 »

Preferring On Avery Island to In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is the same as prefering Isn't Anything to Loveless. I can see someone doing it, but it would be a matter of personal taste, not "it doesn't age as well." Plus arguing that Aeroplane doesn't age well makes little sense to me, since I tend to think of "not aging well" implying that an album is great for its time or genre but doesn't sound as fresh or amazing today. For example, I like the Kinks, but much of their music is so obviously of its era that its more quaint than anything to me--The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society is a great album, to be sure, but it doesn't sound like anything else but a late 60s British rock album. Compare this to, say, The Beatles White Album, which is from the same era, but doesn't sound nearly as dated to me.

That's how I feel about Aeroplane. It doesn't sound like any obvious genre or era of music.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #122 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 07:19 »

to be fair i don't think OAI sounds like any genre/age either. i think by not aging well, and i don't want to speak for zero but i will, he meant that he had heard it so many times in the past 8 years that it's lost some of it's lustre. i think looking at guernica for 8 years might have the same effect so it's an understandable sentiment. "aging well" is probably a bad way to phrase it but the fact is that sometimes even the most brilliant of works grow a tad old with very consistent and repetitous listening.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #123 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 07:21 »

But that would mean you like something else more because you haven't run it into the ground yet.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #124 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 07:28 »

is that an unfair or unacceptable reason for preffering something??
i think there can be a large difference between thinking something is good and liking something. i love both NMH albums and i'd be hard pressed to say which one i prefer. but i do think ITAOTS is a better album. that doesn't mean i have to prefer it though. i'm undecided. same goes for many other albums and movies. take, for example, the movie "gold raiders." it's unbelievably bad but i love it. liking something b/c it's fresher is, i think, perfectly fine.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #125 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 08:59 »

What I mean by Aeroplane not aging well is that it has a very immediate visceral impact which is diminished over repeated listens. In this way, I think that people who hear it for the first time tend to exagerrate its greatness, because they haven't spent enough time with it to reconcile its flaws.

I disagree completely about the Kinks, by the way. If anything, I would argue that The White Album sounds more dated than Village Green, though not necessarily worse.

And actually, I do prefer Isn't Anything to Loveless, for much the same reasons I prefer Avery to Aeroplane - I just think the songwriting is better. Nearly half of Aeroplane is nothing but one acoustic guitar and singing. Those songs are great, yes, but I prefer Avery's more diverse sonic palette.

Hat · « **Reply #126 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 11:13 »

I have really tried to listen to Avery Island, but every time it comes up on random album, that first two seconds of Song Against Sex rapes my ears and I try for another album.

Seriously, how is that a good way to start an album?

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #127 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 13:05 »

The opening of "Song Against Sex" is the indie-rock aural equivalent of the little girl with long black hair in Japanese horror movies.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #128 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 20:56 »

I want you to explain that analogy because it makes little sense to me.

I concede your points about Aeroplane though I personally think it is and will always be one of my favorite albums. Not because it's some indie rock bedpost and I'm required to like it, though. Recently the ex-leader of my favorite band, Trey Anastasio of Phish, said he was listening to nothing but Aeroplane for weeks on end. It's too bad that hasn't rubbed off on his recent solo albums because they are pretty awful.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #129 on:** 18 Jan 2007, 02:32 »

aeorplane will too always be among my all time favorite albums. but on avery island did things aeroplane didn't. it's more diverse and took more challenging routes (just look at the final track) and it deserves praise for that. the lyrical style would certainly appeal to some people more as well. i love both so i'm not sure if i find it more appealing but i almost think the images from on avery island are more poignant in many cases.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #130 on:** 18 Jan 2007, 02:32 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 17 Jan 2007, 20:56

I want you to explain that analogy because it makes little sense to me.

The first couple seconds of "Song Against Sex" jump out at you suddenly and make you go "What the damn?!" in much the same way that little girls with long black hair jump out at you in Japanese horror films.

thanadras · « **Reply #131 on:** 18 Jan 2007, 06:39 »

The Tragicallly Hip
Sloan

Both great bands I like.

Ben yayayayayayayay · « **Reply #132 on:** 18 Jan 2007, 08:05 »

Keep talking about NMH

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