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NWA
« on: 22 Feb 2007, 07:14 »
Straight outta muthaphukkin' Compton as Eazy-E might say were he alive.

There's been a few rumours going around that the remaining members of NWA are going to reform, possibly with Snoop replacing Eazy-E. Now I know that gangsta rap doesn't have a great following on here, but I've always thought NWA stand somewhat head and shoulders above most of gangsta rap.

I don't expect it, but I do hope that this reunion happens and that it makes some great material. I can't imagine the pleasure overload I'd get from Eminem featuring on a new NWA song.

So is there anybody else here that gives a shit? Or am I going to be 100 miles and runnin'?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #1 on: 22 Feb 2007, 08:01 »
You have a point about the Snoop thing.

As far as them being the template for everything bad about gangsta rap, that may be true as far as the lyrics (particularly the second album), but I think a lot of the music is some of the best in rap's history, lots of soul and live drum samples.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #2 on: 22 Feb 2007, 08:07 »
I think saying that a band laid the template for something is a bit of an awkward reason at best to dislike them. After all, look at it this way:

  • The Ramones laid the template for Simple Plan.
  • Robert Johnson laid the template for Steven Seagal.
  • The Beatles laid the template for Oasis.
  • Kraftwerk laid the template for every shitty electronic artist ever.

The list goes on and on. Laying the template doesn't mean you're bad - if someone takes what you started and makes it crap rather than aspiring to bring it to new heights, the blame for that can hardly be yours.

Frankly I thought NWA were pretty ace, and although Snoop and Dre were pretty anti-E in the post-NWA period, well, Eazy was kind of a maniac, taking the misogyny and violence of NWA to extremes in his solo work. If someone wrote and performed a song like "My Baby'z Mama" after a project I was involved in, I'd probably diss 'em too. Also you are allowed to insult someone and change your opinion later, and considering that Eazy was counted among those that Snoop declared were "taken from us too soon" at the Snoop concert I was at it sounds like he's changed his opinion. It sounded rehearsed as all hell, but that doesn't neccesarily indicate that he didn't at some point mean it.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #3 on: 22 Feb 2007, 11:39 »
I suppose it might be how everyone in BM is all 'HAIL EURONYMUS!' even if they did think he was a twunt.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #4 on: 22 Feb 2007, 12:55 »
This happened in 2003. They reissued the greatest hits album with "Chin Check" and "Hello", both of which featured Snoop. Chin Check was a radio hit for a while.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #5 on: 22 Feb 2007, 15:18 »
I know that THAT already happened, but I'm hearing rumours about an album with that line-up. And, though it is hardly the most respectable source, someone has added a 2007 album with a working title to wikipedia.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #6 on: 22 Feb 2007, 17:22 »
How is Oasis bad?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #7 on: 22 Feb 2007, 17:54 »
How isn't Oasis bad?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #8 on: 22 Feb 2007, 17:57 »
HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh man, Skittish, that's a good one.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #9 on: 22 Feb 2007, 18:09 »
N.W.A. is definitively not for me because I don't have either of the essential characteristics given by their name.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #10 on: 22 Feb 2007, 18:29 »
I guess that's a light-hearted comment, but it's pretty ridiculous when you take it to its conclusion.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #11 on: 22 Feb 2007, 18:39 »
Gregs, I'm guessing you don't listen to a lot of Sex Gang Children?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #12 on: 22 Feb 2007, 18:42 »
Or maybe you do.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #13 on: 23 Feb 2007, 05:41 »
it would be great if NWA came back.
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« Reply #14 on: 23 Feb 2007, 05:50 »
Quote from: KharBevNor on 22 Feb 2007, 11:39
I suppose it might be how everyone in BM is all 'HAIL EURONYMUS!' even if they did think he was a twunt.

Yeah but Euronymus did the solo in "War" and that's fucking cool, even if its is all sloppy and poorly executed....

I think Eurynomous cops a lot of shit just cause he's fucking dead, Mayhem were shiity and still are (though I don't mind Grand Declaration of War so much) but he wasn't such a bad dude and he's label had some fucking good bands on it like Sigh and Abruptm...

anyway back to gansta rap, umm "Bodycount Mother Fucker, Ice Fucking T!!!!!!"
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Re: NWA
« Reply #15 on: 23 Feb 2007, 05:57 »
I wish someone had recorded Charlton Heston reading the lyrics to Body Count's Cop Killer at a Time Warner meeting.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #16 on: 23 Feb 2007, 08:34 »
I was joking, though I still don't listen to N.W.A. because I don't like their music or their lyrics/politics. But I can't relate to them on any level because I'm a middle class white dude from suburban Ohio.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #17 on: 25 Feb 2007, 14:58 »
I would not welcome this at all.  I think that NWA had a place, but that place is now gone.  They made a handful of standout tracks (Express Yourself, Fuck the Police, Straight Outta Compton, 100 Miles & Runnin', Gangsta Gangsta and maybe Dope Man) but the rest of the albums were generally lacklustre.

Ice Cube is a has-been whose best albums are behind him.  Amerikkka's Most Wanted and Predator were pretty good, as was a couple of West-Side Connection songs.  But barring guest spots in other people's songs (Burn Hollywood Burn!) pretty much everything I've heard after that has been crap.  I see a pattern here, as his best movies are behind him now also.  He should stick to making mediocre movies or something.

Ezy-E is dead, and pretty much everyone's taken shots at him after he died.

Ren hasn't done anything worthy of note post-NWA.

Dre is a total fucking sellout.  Oh yeah, let's dis everyone I've ever worked with, work with B-Real from Cypress Hill while B's in the process of attempting to sue Ice Cube for something insanely stupid, and produce another flash in the pan white dude.  Awesome work.  Here's your fucking Grammy.

In addition, Snoop Dogg is a really fucking boring rapper whose shit I've never liked.  When he's not ripping off Parliament songs wholesale for his title track he's producing really fucking awful porn films.  What a great guy!

So yeah.  NWA are pretty much dead to me.  I'll enjoy some of their old tunes, but I'm highly dubious about the quality of any new stuff that comes out.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #18 on: 25 Feb 2007, 16:01 »
Est is right about everything, folks. Well, maybe a bit harsh on Snoop ('Drop It Like It's Hot', come on) but otherwise, yeah.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #19 on: 25 Feb 2007, 19:35 »
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...'Drop It Like It's Hot', come on...

Your point?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #20 on: 26 Feb 2007, 00:47 »
My point is, of course, that it is a totally sweet tune.
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« Reply #21 on: 26 Feb 2007, 07:44 »
Whenever I hear white dudes drone on about rap, I picture in my head Micheal Bolton from Office Space beating the shit out of a fax/printer.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #22 on: 26 Feb 2007, 13:05 »
Isn't the stat like 60 or more percent of rap is bought by suburban middle class white males? I'm too lazy to look it up.


Anyway, I agree that they had their time and their place, and if Snoop, or heaven forbid Eminem were involved in a "reunion", I'd hope E would come back as a zombie to kill them all.
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Re: NWA
« Reply #23 on: 26 Feb 2007, 16:20 »
Um, Scrambledgregs, why is it that you seem to think white people should not or cannot be interested in hip-hop?
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Re: NWA
« Reply #24 on: 26 Feb 2007, 16:23 »
This man clearly is all he can think of when he thinks of white folks and hip-hop.

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« Reply #25 on: 26 Feb 2007, 16:56 »
I am excited about the release, though I am quite aware its potential of being a great album are relatively slim. This is mainly do to the fact that sometimes reorganizations like this can lead to different but still strong music. And yes, it can lead to utter shit too.
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