Topic: The Guitar Topic (Read 1983309 times)

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2900 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 17:20 »

Huh? What about the D major on the fourth, third, second, and first strings? I heard that called first position, and the first finger is on the second fret there.

Thrillho · « **Reply #2901 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 17:41 »

That's just the first position for that chord. The second position is presumably the B-shaped barre chord at the 5th fret.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2902 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 17:45 »

So... First position chords are the closest to the nut you can fret them? I really don't know the reasoning behind most of what I know, I am usually more interested in playing better than knowing the terminology. Though not knowing how to play in a certain key really made it difficult to improv without sounding horrible.

Thrillho · « **Reply #2903 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 18:28 »

I'm sure that's what I've been told, that as far as frets, the first position is the first fret. As far as chords, the first position is the closest to the nut you can fret it, and second is the next closed, etc.

Spluff · « **Reply #2904 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 18:54 »

Are you talking about the open D chord? Because if you are, that would be considered open position because you're using an open string.

Harun · « **Reply #2905 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 22:06 »

*tunes to open C and goes Kaki on everyone's ass*

dystancholitects · « **Reply #2906 on:** 30 Aug 2008, 22:50 »

My collection isn't quite as impressive as some of the others here; my main bass is an Antoniotsai custom Vietnamese five-string bass which looks pretty, but has a slightly muddy tone. I also have a Warwick Streamer LX four-string bass, a Jay Turser four-string Hofner copy, a Hagstrom II vintage guitar, and an incredibly shitty Sorina Stratocaster. My amp is a Sunn Solarus from 1967.

EDIT: Forgot my Yamaha acoustic.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2907 on:** 31 Aug 2008, 06:52 »

By the time you notice the Sunn is missing, I'll be three states away, MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thrillho · « **Reply #2908 on:** 31 Aug 2008, 11:15 »

Quote from: Spluff on 30 Aug 2008, 18:54

Are you talking about the open D chord? Because if you are, that would be considered open position because you're using an open string.

I'm not sure you get what I was talking about. But then there's every chance it was wrong anyway, so never mind.

dystancholitects · « **Reply #2909 on:** 31 Aug 2008, 11:36 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 31 Aug 2008, 06:52

By the time you notice the Sunn is missing, I'll be three states away, MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That thing is way too huge to steal. But if you do manage to, I'd suggest replacing the tubes; they'd never been replaced when I bought it and it crackles like a bitch, and I haven't found time to buy new ones yet....

Otherwise, a little Craigslist searching should get you a sweet deal; they pop up often, around $650.00.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2910 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 13:03 »

Quote from: Spluff on 30 Aug 2008, 18:54

Are you talking about the open D chord? Because if you are, that would be considered open position because you're using an open string.

Yeah, the D is open, G is at 2, B is at 3, E is at 2. So the open A with D,G,and B at 2 would be open A? What would the G major rooted on the 6th string be?

Samsara · « **Reply #2911 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 16:01 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 01 Sep 2008, 13:03

Quote from: Spluff on 30 Aug 2008, 18:54
Are you talking about the open D chord? Because if you are, that would be considered open position because you're using an open string.
Yeah, the D is open, G is at 2, B is at 3, E is at 2. So the open A with D,G,and B at 2 would be open A? What would the G major rooted on the 6th string be?

E 3
B 3 (or O)
G O
D O
A 2
E 3

Or bar the third fret and arrange "an E major" on the fourth fret

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2912 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 16:47 »

Oops, my bad, I meant what would it be called, I was going to list out the fret positions, but that one uses almost all the strings (I was taught to mute the D with the finger fretting the A, don't feel like thinking enough to see if it works both ways right now).

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2913 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 16:58 »

Are we talking about G chords? I fret mine like this:

e|---3
B|---3
G|---0
D|---0
A|---x
E|---3

Sometimes I don't mute the A string and play the B note as well. It depends on what I feel like doing.

Samsara · « **Reply #2914 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 17:59 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 01 Sep 2008, 16:47

Oops, my bad, I meant what would it be called, I was going to list out the fret positions, but that one uses almost all the strings (I was taught to mute the D with the finger fretting the A, don't feel like thinking enough to see if it works both ways right now).

The notes that make up G Major are G B and D, so there's no need to mute the D string. I never mude the A string because the B is the third so I may as well play it. Unless I wanted G5, in which case I'd just play the Power Chord on the third fret root on the 6th string.

Zingoleb · « **Reply #2915 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 19:13 »

Favourite tuning is... E E E E B E

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2916 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 19:14 »

Open D is pretty rad.

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #2917 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 19:15 »

Gentlemen:
C G C G C E

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2918 on:** 01 Sep 2008, 19:45 »

I guess it was just the specific... voicing? that I first played it in was muting the D, voicing is the right word, right?

Whenever I do G5 in that vicinity, I just fret the G on the 6th and mute the A string, play down to third, I never even think about fretting it like I do all the other power chords. Funny how habits stick from the first songs you learn.

Thrillho · « **Reply #2919 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 08:30 »

My favourite tunings are DADAAD and CGCFAC.

Christophe · « **Reply #2920 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 08:55 »

I generally use standard and DACGAE (ha ha ha, "gae") tuning. The latter is rad for Yonic Southish droney/math-rocky guitar parts.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2921 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 09:00 »

On my album for Darryl's 24 hour challenge, I tuned my guitar to CCFBbEbG. It's C Standard tuning, but I doubled the low C. If I had a seven-string, it would've just been an easy switch to CCFBbEbGC. But I don't.

negative creep · « **Reply #2922 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:16 »

Quote from: carrotosaurus on 01 Sep 2008, 19:15

Gentlemen:
C G C G C E

What strength of strings would you use for that one?

Harun · « **Reply #2923 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:25 »

.17's

negative creep · « **Reply #2924 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:28 »

What do you mean? A set that starts with .17 or just 6 .17 strings? And wouldn't be a .17 string way to thick for a standard high E string?

Thrillho · « **Reply #2925 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:43 »

You'd need to sort the bridge out, and carve the nut open a bit, but you could do it, yeah.

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #2926 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:44 »

I use it for acoustics, not electrics. Just pop on some heavy gauge acoustic strings and it works fine.

negative creep · « **Reply #2927 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 15:50 »

Well, I don't have an acoustic, so that's that, I guess.

I still don't believe that you could tune a .17 string to a high E. On on of my guitars I have a .12 string as the highest, and if i tune that to E, the tension seems really high. I imagine with a .17 it would be to high?

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #2928 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 17:53 »

It just works. I can't really explain it.

Alternately, you could do D A D A D F if that's easier to get to with lighter strings (which it is)...

negative creep · « **Reply #2929 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 18:33 »

So basically this is a drop-tuning with the highest three stringes tuned up two, three and one halfsteps, respectively? Wile the C G C G C E is the same except that the highest string is tuned up two half steps? I'll try this tomorrow.

Bearer · « **Reply #2930 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 21:27 »

no, no, G G D A E E is the way to go! Madol-itar with double'd bass and high string!

Spluff · « **Reply #2931 on:** 02 Sep 2008, 23:13 »

Nodaisho, that would still be an open G. The position goes by where the note that is furthest down the neck is - eg. a G barre chord would be in third position.

dystancholitects · « **Reply #2932 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 20:49 »

I'm looking for a new bass, preferably vintage, doesn't have to be in great or even good condition, as long as it plays...something I won't feel bad about beating up. Anyone have any suggestions? Two pickups would be ideal.

Ballard · « **Reply #2933 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 21:06 »

Wait dude, why would you want to buy a vintage bass (much more expensive, more brownie points) if you're looking for something you can beat on without worry?

Also, you're Kabir's new bassist right? (I'm a friend of his, Eugene, we used to play together and I know the rest of your bandmates)

dystancholitects · « **Reply #2934 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 21:19 »

Quote from: Ballard on 14 Sep 2008, 21:06

Wait dude, why would you want to buy a vintage bass (much more expensive, more brownie points) if you're looking for something you can beat on without worry?

Also, you're Kabir's new bassist right? (I'm a friend of his, Eugene, we used to play together and I know the rest of your bandmates)

Yeah, we talked on AIM last night.

I'm not looking for, like, a high-end vintage bass...more like a Univox or an old copy brand.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2935 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 21:31 »

You guys, one of these is now mine:

1970s Univox Echo-Tech EM 200 delay unit. It's like an old tape delay, but instead of reel, it uses a magnetic disk and a couple of tape heads. It makes awesome noises. It was sitting in my friend's basement for forever, and his dad thought it was broken so he let me take it off his hands for fifty bucks and it works fine. It adds some noise to my signal (a kind of dull hiss and a clicking noise), but other than that it works fantastic. It's got an option for a footswitch, but that is long gone, I think. The power switch isn't a bypass, either. Which kind of irks me, but whatever. It sounds better than my DOD FX90.

Ballard · « **Reply #2936 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 21:42 »

Quote from: dystancholitects on 14 Sep 2008, 21:19

Yeah, we talked on AIM last night.

I'm not looking for, like, a high-end vintage bass...more like a Univox or an old copy brand.

Oh fuck haha, I forgot for a minute that you were the bassist and not the drummer.

If you want funky vintage copies, check out Eastwood Guitars. I will never shut the fuck up about these guys; they make amazing instruments.

imapiratearg, huaglhuagl

dystancholitects · « **Reply #2937 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 22:45 »

Quote from: Ballard on 14 Sep 2008, 21:42

Quote from: dystancholitects on 14 Sep 2008, 21:19
Yeah, we talked on AIM last night.

I'm not looking for, like, a high-end vintage bass...more like a Univox or an old copy brand.

Oh fuck haha, I forgot for a minute that you were the bassist and not the drummer.

If you want funky vintage copies, check out Eastwood Guitars. I will never shut the fuck up about these guys; they make amazing instruments.

imapiratearg, huaglhuagl

Woah, Eastwood makes a copy of the Hi-Flier I'm looking at. A bit above my price range, though. I'm looking to spend, like, $200.00, haha. I can get a Univox Rickenbacker copy....

Ballard · « **Reply #2938 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 09:48 »

Oh man, these Univox Rics are all kinds of sexy.

See, the thing about Eastwood is that their copies aren't really copies. Pretty much all of their designs are based off shitty but cool looking no-name brand guitars from the 60s. These original guitars are now expensive out the ass simply because they're vintage, but they're no less playable. Most Airlines and Teiscos were made out of some crappy polycarbonate plastic type material. Eastwood makes quality instruments that look like these old designs. Their quality, however, is comparable at the very least to MIJ Fender instruments.

Have you ever played a Univox 4003 bass? Is it as nice as it looks?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2939 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 09:57 »

Man, I was looking for a used footswitch for the Echo-Tech I posted on the other page and I ran into a picture of a Univox Hi-Flier on a page that described artists who used their equipment (which included Man Or Astroman, Nirvana, Archers of Loaf, The Olivia Tremor Control, the Eels, and Lungfish) and now I'm really interested in finding one.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2940 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 10:35 »

Eastwood's copy is quite nice. I've played it before and almost bought one over my Telecaster.

Tehz · « **Reply #2941 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 11:42 »

Well guys, I just took the plunge. Just moments ago, I bought a slightly used CIJ Jazzmaster off of eBay.

I know I was talking about how I'd much rather get a AVRI and everything before, but from what I've read the CIJ's are pretty nice and this one came with a whole bunch of modifications and extras; Lindy Fralin pickups, a buzzstop, a hardshell case, and the guy's local guitar tech modified the bridge just beforehand, all for a little over 900 bucks (free shipping, also). I'm fuckin' thrilled.

Kingofcarrotflowers · « **Reply #2942 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 19:42 »

Recommend me hollowbodys please? Preferably those of the less spacious variety ala Telecaster Thinline (except not a telecaster thinline).

Tehz · « **Reply #2943 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 20:12 »

Here are a few options:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/PRS-Guitars-SE-Custom-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=514461

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hofner-CT-Club-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=482168

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/PRS-Guitars-SE-Custom-Semi-Hollow-Soapbar-Electric-Guitar?sku=515827

Keep in mind that I found these after just poking around on Musician's Friend for a few minutes. I don't have any experience with any of them.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2944 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 20:25 »

Quote from: Kingofcarrotflowers on 15 Sep 2008, 19:42

Recommend me hollowbodys please? Preferably those of the less spacious variety ala Telecaster Thinline (except not a telecaster thinline).

So, not the ES-335-type guitars? 'Cause that seems like you're cutting out a significant amount of options. Particularly some good options. Like Gretsch Electromatics and Epiphone Dots.

sean · « **Reply #2945 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 20:29 »

Dear Matt,

Holy Shit I Want That.

Thanks,

Sean

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2946 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 20:49 »

It's pretty excellent. I'm probably going to make a true bypass switch for it, as I've been kickin' around on the BYOC forums, and I'm in the middle of building myself a Tonebender MKII clone.

doombilly · « **Reply #2947 on:** 16 Sep 2008, 05:39 »

Quote from: Kingofcarrotflowers on 15 Sep 2008, 19:42

Recommend me hollowbodys please?

Prolly find one of these used for pretty cheap.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Yamaha/AEX-500/10/1
I've had one for about 10 years w/o a problem.

but then it is probably a bit more like playing an acoustic than you are looking...

EDITO!~`^&*

Hey guys. I got my Acoustic Black Widow back from the shop. My rock is infinitely cooler now. Note: that isn't a pic of mine. But is more or less what it looks like. Mine has some serious ding dongs on the back of the neck but looks infinitely shinier and sexxy.

Tehz · « **Reply #2948 on:** 23 Sep 2008, 14:51 »

My Jazzy arrived today.

holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit guys it is awesome

Walter Kovacs · « **Reply #2949 on:** 23 Sep 2008, 15:27 »

Quote from: Tehz on 23 Sep 2008, 14:51

My Jazzy arrived today.

holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit guys it is awesome

I don't really know to much about them. Care to talk about how awesome it is and why? A whole lot of bands I like use them so I'm interested.

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