Topic: Oink taken down (Read 13322 times)

tacroy · « **on:** 23 Oct 2007, 09:11 »

It looks like Oink has been taken down by the British and Dutch police: http://torrentfreak.com/oinkcd-servers-raided-admin-arrested/

This is....very frustrating.

amok · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 09:43 »

Further proof that Middlesborough is the worst place ever.

jeph · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 09:59 »

SeanBateman · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 10:08 »

It's like when Napster went down, and then immediately Kazaa came up. And then Kazaa went down and up sprung torrents and soulseek etc etc etc.

There will always be something new guys, no worries.

pat101 · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 11:09 »

indietorrents doesn't seem to be up currently either.

Lise · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 11:16 »

But.... But...... I don't think that Oink can be replaced by just another "public torrent site", you know? Oink was great because they enforced uploading rules and therefore incentive to upload more content.

It will be missed

.

PS: Oink had been "monitored" due to leaked albums, but record companies KNOW that it's inevitable. There's a fantastic article on Spin detailing the process and how artists can "deal" with their music getting leaked prior to the slated released (basically, suck it up).

http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/2007/07/0708_leak/

They even mention Oink- "OiNK practically has a velvet rope around it. OiNK is accessible strictly by invitation, meticulous about the quality of the files its members offer, and quick to bounce patrons who don't abide by its stringent rules, which demand that members upload as much as they download. And for the anonymous and secretive founders of the site, the first rule of OiNK is: You do not talk about OiNK."

Johnny C · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 11:24 »

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A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users

i could be looking at a lot of jail time

Johnny C · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 11:50 »

So uh if anyone has ideas for my legal defense that would be cool.

tacroy · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 11:58 »

Take this with a grain of salt, as I don't want to give out bad advice to anyone, but I would be highly surprised if legal action went any further than the actual operators of the website. Remember, Oink had 180,000 members and this is being handled by British and Dutch authorities. I suspect that pursuing people internationally for music downloading is far more hassle to them than it would be worth.

Mnementh · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 12:01 »

I think Johnny is trying to say that he is currently flipping them the bird because his computer at home is still announcing to the tracker and he can't get there to shut it off.

Johnny C · « **Reply #10 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 12:06 »

Yeah I might as well go down in a blaze of glory.

IronOxide · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 12:24 »

I just dedicated a song to Oink on my radio show, "a fallen hero in the fight against the evil RIAA".

Damn, now I'll have to like, buy music or something.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 12:35 »

I downloaded like, 5 albums from Oink before I became paranoid of overstepping the 5 GB grace period and getting myself banninated. I should be safe, right?

AnonymousNoob · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 13:54 »

Quote from: Lise on 23 Oct 2007, 11:16

And for the anonymous and secretive founders of the site, the first rule of OiNK is: You do not talk about OiNK."

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,16528.0.html

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,13602.0.html

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,10089.0.html

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,12660.0.html

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,10948.0.html

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,5516.0.html

jeph · « **Reply #14 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 13:57 »

Wow, the guy who runs OiNK is younger than me. I feel old.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 14:33 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 23 Oct 2007, 11:50

So uh if anyone has ideas for my legal defense that would be cool.

The Chewbacca Defense.

mberan42 · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 14:46 »

Yeah, this is going to be very frustrating. How the heck am I supposed to get the musics now?

Johnny C · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 14:49 »

Sendspace thread!

IronOxide · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 15:12 »

Yeah, we're going to have to step up the sendspacing now that we can't get our own stuff anymore.

thepugs · « **Reply #19 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 15:48 »

I guess sendspace will be my new friend...

Beren · « **Reply #20 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 15:58 »

This has not been a good week for the interwebs.

GenericName · « **Reply #21 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 16:05 »

Actually, I way prefer torrents to the Sendspace Thread.
Perhaps someone should start a torrent thread.

Mnementh · « **Reply #22 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 16:20 »

No.

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,13612.0.html

Johnny C · « **Reply #23 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 17:19 »

I don't even know what a torrent thread would entail. I doubt it'd be private tracker invites.

Still probably best to use the Sendspace thread though.

Joseph · « **Reply #24 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 17:26 »

I've never used torrents to tell the truth. These days, what music I don't buy, I get exclusively off threads like the Sendspace one, and blogs. Google Blog Search actually will find me almost anything I want, with a bit of searching.

It's kind of sad for a lot of people, this shut down, I suppose. But let's not even remotely pretend something won't fill the void in a matter of days or weeks.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 18:34 »

Guys, I listen to black metal and neo-folk and I can get most music I want off of Isohunt. If not, there's always DC++, the indestructible, distributed filesharing system that enforces uploads as part of the software.

mberan42 · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 20:13 »

But... But... When it's 3.00am and I'm super drunk and I really want to listen to the latest Something Corporate or Dashboard Confessional or Jimmy Eat World disc, who can I turn to? Not the sendspace thread. NOT THE SENDSPACE THREAD!!

Joseph · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 20:38 »

I'm pretty sure there are a load of people who, if they could think back post-death, would wish they hadn't had a shotgun to turn to when they were drunk at 3 AM.

jeph · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 22:39 »

shotguntorrents.com???

Inlander · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 22:47 »

Over the course of three hours the whole shot is delivered, one pellet at a time.

jeph · « **Reply #30 on:** 23 Oct 2007, 23:55 »

I hate it when my suicide attempts get stuck at 99%

thelightguy · « **Reply #31 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 00:14 »

Don't worry, most of the time when a torrent gets stuck at 99% it's just the paper casing that's missing, you'll still get the full force of the pellets.

Tom · « **Reply #32 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 02:45 »

Years back when i used different things my rope would just get frayed.

Johnny C · « **Reply #33 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 10:54 »

DJ Rupture wrote a great piece from the perspective of a musician who is also an OiNK user.

Johnny C · « **Reply #34 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 11:08 »

Also, how come every article about this has at least one person sounding like a complete arse? The IFPI guy says,

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This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure

which is only technically right insofar as I'm not actually friends with the people that downloaded the music. Well, most of them anyhow. I guess it's technically wrong if you count the invites I gave to two of my friends.

A Cleveland police officer, quoted in a BBC article:

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This extremely lucrative and creative scheme

And the article Lise linked? The guy from Sub Pop comes across as a huge jackass. Look at this:

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Sub Pop A&R rep Stuart Meyer concurs. "The Shins album sold 118,000 copies its first week, which was beyond our expectations," he says. "Would it have sold more than that five or ten years ago? Probably -- but 118,000 for a band like that is pretty amazing."

Emphasis mine. Mr. Meyer, while I'm sure your intentions regarding your artists are all well and good, you're on a label with literally three gold records to its name. Over a hundred thousand copies in the first week for a band on your label, and you think that ten years ago without the filesharing and pre-release buzz you would have actually sold more?

Honestly why do labels let their reps drop turds like this out of their mouths?

stale · « **Reply #35 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 11:49 »

ohhhhh shit

mberan42 · « **Reply #36 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 11:50 »

That's a great article, Johnny.

...man, my ratio was 1.220 or so. I had so much yet to download! /mope

stale · « **Reply #37 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 12:00 »

Look at this

http://oinkmemorial.blogspot.com/

Moderator blog

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #38 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 14:40 »

http://oink.justgotowned.com/

Ally · « **Reply #39 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 18:41 »

I think it's hilarious that I Like Fish is in a tizz about TV Links and music forum is like OH NO OiNK

Buuuut that's cause I'm a freak

mberan42 · « **Reply #40 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 20:17 »

I'm listening to Pandora right now on a Mogwai channel. Some awesome song came on called Mo/Kertia - The Dark Part Of The Year off of "More Happy Moments With..." by Hoven Droven. I've never heard of them before, but the song is pretty damn awesome: post-rock with a traditional Irish theme. I really dig it.

What the hell am I supposed to do now? Sure, I could randomly buy an album of theirs, but what if it turns out that this is their only song I like? I can't download anything by them now to see if I really do like them. I've no way of getting into them, and I feel that I would really enjoy their music.

DAMN YOU BRITISH AND DUTCH FEDERAL AGENTS!!

Lunk · « **Reply #41 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 20:49 »

Quote from: mberan42 on 24 Oct 2007, 20:17

I'm listening to Pandora right now on a Mogwai channel. Some awesome song came on called Mo/Kertia - The Dark Part Of The Year off of "More Happy Moments With..." by Hoven Droven. I've never heard of them before, but the song is pretty damn awesome: post-rock with a traditional Irish theme. I really dig it.

What the hell am I supposed to do now? Sure, I could randomly buy an album of theirs, but what if it turns out that this is their only song I like? I can't download anything by them now to see if I really do like them. I've no way of getting into them, and I feel that I would really enjoy their music.

DAMN YOU BRITISH AND DUTCH FEDERAL AGENTS!!

http://sharebee.com/4aee1083

Shareminer.com: Turning the entire internet into one giant sendspace thread. Win.

(Note that that link just came from a quick search, I take no responsibility if the .rar contains goatse or something)

mberan42 · « **Reply #42 on:** 24 Oct 2007, 20:59 »

Yeah, see, that's the whole point. You did a simple search and may have found what I was listening to. Guarantee is not ensured.

With OiNK, I was positively guaranteed that what I was downloading was what it claimed to be. If I wanted a FLAC version of Sex Bomb by Flipper, one simple search was all it took - within 4 minutes I had it; I had an actual FLAC file that contained the entirety of Sex Bomb by Flipper. What I did not have were any surprises, any unfortunate links, any unusual or disgusting or repulsive or eccentric pictures or files. OiNK was so strictly moderated that you were absolutely guaranteed to receive exactly what you wanted to receive. It was amazing.

I wholeheartedly thank my inviter; I am a changed man because of you. (Let me know if you hear of the next best thing. Invite me - I'll abide by the rules, I promise!)

okgo · « **Reply #43 on:** 25 Oct 2007, 11:48 »

OiNK simply WAS the best. u could be sure that anything u got had amazing quality. that's what i loved about OiNK.
the quality

also the fact, that u could find really rare EP's etc.
so where do i turn now?
am on stm
anyone got an invite to hand out?
indietorrent?
libble?
would be great.

we loved u oink

MysticalChicken · « **Reply #44 on:** 25 Oct 2007, 14:07 »

It's probably a good thing that I was never invited to OiNK and indeed never even typed oink.cd in the URL bar... otherwise I'd be as disappointed as the rest of you, probably. I actually knew almost nothing about it until it got taken down.

amok · « **Reply #45 on:** 25 Oct 2007, 14:13 »

Quote from: stale on 24 Oct 2007, 12:00

Look at this

http://oinkmemorial.blogspot.com/

Moderator blog

This site is great. Although I fear for the various other options (most succinctly listed by the new guy trollin' for invites to all of them) whose names are being sprayed all over every public blog and forum post about OiNK. Some of them have servers in even less secure countries.

tacroy · « **Reply #46 on:** 25 Oct 2007, 22:59 »

Quote from: Amok

This site is great. Although I fear for the various other options (most succinctly listed by the new guy trollin' for invites to all of them) whose names are being sprayed all over every public blog and forum post about OiNK. Some of them have servers in even less secure countries.

Eh...lots of people have been waving around the idea of security in obscurity, and I think this is more about people getting to sound like characters from Fight Club than it is a reasonable defense from legal action. The idea that anything is truly hidden on the internet should have been debunked long ago. That said, my understanding is that Indietorrents hosts only non-RIAA recordings, hopefully keeping them off the radar of the biggest threat.

What I find interesting about all this is watching the support groups, memorial blogs, tribute videos, and the like crop up all over the place. There seems to be such a clamor to find OiNK's replacement I'm tempted to call it an e-diaspora, as ridiculously nerdy as that is.

I've left OiNK's homepage on my hotbar and click back there instinctively every so often. For me, the saddest part is seeing the nice, cheerful pink replaced by that soul-crushing gray.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #47 on:** 26 Oct 2007, 06:08 »

OinK was really just such a superior tracker, sure i can get most stuff elsewhere, but it won't be as neatly organised and all in one place. OinK was really the place to go when i wanted an underground Italo Disco compilation or something like that.

Joseph · « **Reply #48 on:** 26 Oct 2007, 12:49 »

I guess I'd care a lot more if I'd ever gotten torrents to work on my computer. Sendspace type threads and Google Blog Search get me pretty much anything I could want. A few exceptions, sure, but not much.

tacroy · « **Reply #49 on:** 29 Oct 2007, 10:02 »

If you're looking for individual songs, a decent alternative is Cr3ation B3ta. Pretty straightforward to use, but has some limitations--getting classic songs and some obscure stuff is easy ("Rhapsody in Blue" is easy to find, and I can look up a few Infected Mushroom tracks as well), but mainstream stuff doesn't seem to work (no Britney Spears for you!) I find I do better searching by artist than by track title.

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Author Topic: Oink taken down (Read 13322 times)

SeanBateman

Mnementh

AnonymousNoob

thepugs

Mnementh

Ally

okgo