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jhocking:
doh

Ozymandias:

--- Quote from: Johnny C on 14 Feb 2008, 00:52 ---Maybe they are hunting a Leviathan?

Ozy, while I appreciate the sentiment that intent behind use is key - see up there where I defend farmers using rifles as deterrents against feral animals and as a means of sustenance - arguing that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" sort of begs the question: if people kill people, why give 'em more weapons? I'm willing to tolerate gun ownership as the "right" a developed nation has determined its citizens possess, especially with stringent safety requirements, and I'm certainly in favour of using guns as tools rather than weapons - again, see my farmer example. Tying this back to the topic at hand, the Taser shotgun is not a tool. It is very much a weapon. I am not as concerned about its widespread uses as its potential for abuse, no matter how localized the situation.

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I was just minding my own business reading this thread when I came across this.

Johnny, fuck you so much for confusing me with Switty. Fuck you SO MUCH.

Something Witty:
At least the post for which he confused us was calm and thought out, as opposed to the way I usually post.

dennis:

--- Quote from: jhocking ---What is the purpose of a safety that disengages when the trigger is pulled? I don't know a lot about guns, and so I am totally at a loss for what the safety does if not prevent the gun from firing when the trigger is pulled.
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Let me flip this question around: What is the purpose of a gun that doesn't fire when the trigger is pulled?


--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 13 Feb 2008, 22:20 ---Dennis, I just don't feel safe with the idea of a gun where pulling the trigger removes the safety. I have always been taught that the safety is in case of accidents, including the trigger getting pulled when it isn't supposed to. Sure, most revolvers don't have a safety at all, and they don't go off randomly that I can tell (unless possessed by one B. Fife), but it just goes against the grain, what I have been taught since I was four and shooting tin cans with a red ryder on the outskirts of town.

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In that case, Glocks are not for you. The Glock safety system is not inherently flawed, but it doesn't cover for unsafe use of the gun, which is why it's popular with professional armed units like police. It's not as if any pressure on the trigger will fire the gun. It has to be pulled straight back, and the trigger safety has to be disengaged first. In any case, accidental trigger pulls are only an issue if there is a chambered round in the gun.

Revolvers often lack a safety because their actions either require manually cocking the hammer or require a heavy trigger pull when the hammer is down. You wouldn't carry a revolver around with the hammer cocked on a loaded chamber, would you? Why would would you carry a Glock around like that?

Slick:
For the record, I did not bring up MAD (since when is that a commonplace acronym?), though that is a possible consequence of what I brought up. I mentioned the arms race, because the notion that 'others pose threats to me, thus I can have a gun if I am responsible with it and use it only in self defence' is part of what motivated the arms race. Let's all just get 'nuclear deterrents' and we'll never get robbed, guys!
If any old punk on the street can have get his dirty little mitts on a pistol, why can't I have an assault rifle? Because if two of the fuckers break in on my house to rob my priceless heirlooms, I wan't to be able to fuck their shit up and protect my family.

I know people aren't here arguing the right to bear automatic assault weapons, but reducto ad absurdum, guys. I like the idea of people not having many lethal weapons.

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. If you take out the guns, you will not make it impossible to kill, but you will make it harder.

Also, the cold war nearly ended the fucking world more than once. We could all not be here right now. Think about that.

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