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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
E. Spaceman:
--- Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 14 Feb 2008, 17:26 ---@tommy
second quote: i'm supposed to respect someone who doesn't value their own life, let alone others lives?
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I would have thought this a very basic example of humanity! Your example is ridiculous and not applicable.
SonofZ3:
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 13 Feb 2008, 21:04 ---Jesus Goddamn at least you could call them something other than "the target."
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Anything I'm pointing a loaded firearm at is a target. Its simple: Don't point a loaded weapon at something you're not willing to shoot, hit what you shoot at. To me, something I shoot at is a target. If it moves and breaths its still a target.
--- Quote from: dennis on 14 Feb 2008, 16:40 ---
So, are you saying that if you're robbed at gunpoint, it's ok to kill the robber?
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Yes. If, in the process of defending myself the robber gets killed then he gets killed. In my state the law allows me to defend myself until I feel can safely escape the situation. If the shot that neutralizes the robber as a threat kills him then thats the way it goes. Don't want to get shot? Don't mug people. If my life is potentially on the line I do not want it to be a fair fight, or to have a little bit of an edge, I want to have a decided advantage. If someone has a problem with the idea of using deadly force to protect themself, then they don't have to carry a gun. Simple as that.
IronOxide:
I guess the question is do you think that your cash on hand is worth more than somebody's life.
I could have a million dollars on hand and the person mugging me could be the most vile human being alive, and I still would not value my cash over his life.
Alex C:
See, the thing is, this isn't game theory and people don't have perfect information. Tommydski, whether you admit it or not, people do get killed or maimed in those situations-- you weren't, but you could have been. Anyone who kills someone else in an altercation would have to live with the idea that maybe what they did wasn't necessary to defend themselves, but by the same token they won't be around to regret the decision if it turns out it was necessary. I'm simply not willing to sit here and make that decision for someone else. Period.
SonofZ3:
--- Quote from: IronOxide on 14 Feb 2008, 20:59 ---I guess the question is do you think that your cash on hand is worth more than somebody's life.
I could have a million dollars on hand and the person mugging me could be the most vile human being alive, and I still would not value my cash over his life.
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I don't think it is a matter of how much money I have. I'd respond the same way if someone pulled a knife, threatened me and I had absolutely no money on me at all. I feel it is the principal that someone is threatening my well being, and wants to take from me what I earned by working. If someone threatens me in a serious manner I assume they are willing to do me harm, and if they're trying to do me harm I don't feel any remorse for responding in kind.
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