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The most hilarious thing I have ever read in relation to Joss Whedon

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a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: Uber Ritter on 29 Mar 2008, 12:02 ---Seriously my radical feminist friend spends enough time ranting about how much she hates a lot of 'feminist' blogging on the internet to convince me that this is not a joke.  In this regard feminism is, I think, as vulnerable to projecting its a priori ideals on a complicated world as much as any other ideology (I could cite other examples, but this would bring us into politics proper).  Just last night my friend was ranting about how patronizing it is to say "all X is a manifestation of rape," since it effectively deprives the women in question (prostitutes, for instance) of any agency of their own as well as any judgment, since it says that their thought that they have a choice in the matter (if they do think so, of course) is some sort of delusion.  Not that one can't argue against prostitution on feminist grounds from a different angle, rather that this particular line of reasoning doesn't respect the humanity (agency, rationality) of people that are convinced they are being rational and free.
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I've had enough contact with the lunatic fringe of radical feminism to know this isn't a joke as well, unfortunately. Your friend is also completely right about the lack of agency this strand of feminism gives to women. This also has the unfortunate effect of putting a vast amount of women off feminism, since they encounter this kind of feminism and think that that's what feminism is. The only people this essay and the theories surrounding it really admit to completely be people are men, women become reduced to nothing but perpetual victims which I find to be an incredibly anti-feminist line of thinking. It's depressing since it's such a tiny minority of feminist thinking but because it's the most shocking and so many people now want to disassociate themselves with the term due to it, it becomes very easy for it to be seen as much more important and representative than it actually is.

Also, somebody badly needs to get this woman a copy of The Death Of The Author.

KharBevNor:
Okay, I am being facetious. Asimovs works did improve significantly in that regard over his lifetime. In 'Foundation' the 50,000 year into the future galactic empire is entirely ruled by middle-aged, pipe-smoking white men. 

Nodaisho:

--- Quote from: bryanthelion on 29 Mar 2008, 10:53 ---She keeps on thinking that Mal is supposed to be the bearer of Whedon's ideals.

I keep thinking, "Maybe Whedon WANTED Mal to be a douche-bag."

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I do remember hearing that he said that most of what came out of mal's mouth, he disagreed with.

Uber Ritter:
A pack of wolves--what can I say?  'Word?'
Feminism is one of those things I should aim to get more than casually acquainted with after I'm done reading dead white men.

Surgoshan:
Tasteful means the camera will only show from the waist up, and your sign should cover your nibblies.

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